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<jhund> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 01 July 2015
<jhund> Meeting: WoT IG taskforce on APIs and protocols regular call
<scribe> scribe: dape
<kaz> scribenick:dape
<scribe> scribeNick: dp
<inserted> scribenick: dape
JH: Agenda, additions to
agenda
... 1. preliminaries
... 2. assignment of tech landscape (presentations)
... 3. joint meeting IRTF
... 4. F2F brainstorming for Sunnyvale
... Any changes?
All: None
JH: We got comment to list also
existing frameworks... this is up to discussion
... would like to assign presentations/people to this landscape
on the wiki
Louay: Wonder whether list is
complete? See missing portions, eg. UPNP
... also WebSocket on Client side
JH: May I ask you to extend list
Louay: Will do
Joerg: Need to find a way to categorize technologies.. similar to what the discovery group does
JH: Relations from discovery
features to encoding protocol should be added
... Louay, please also add relations when adding new protocols.
Thanks!
... More people to list findings or present protocols during
the call?
... eg. IPSO, HTTP, ..?
... any people with experience? please send mail or speak
up
Danh: Transport layer vs.
application layer... list focuses on transport
... on top of protocol we need to deal with API
JH: true
... idea is to define resource model... and same API can be
used no matter which encoding protocol is used
Louay: W3C Presentation API deals
with same task... we just define API... and this can be mapped
to many protocols
... worthwhile checking what was done in this W3C group
JH: Can you give a summary on our call?
Louay: Sure, have some material.. next week is possible. After that I am 3 weeks on vacation..
JH: Any more comments on tech landscape? .. else use wiki
All: None
<Louay> Presentation API Working Draft: http://w3c.github.io/presentation-api/
JH: We have overlap with T2T research group
<Louay> Second Screen WG Homepage: http://www.w3.org/2014/secondscreen/
JH: there will be presentations
and also a break outs
... breakouts A: 1. orchestration, 2. uses cases, requiremenst
& modeling of subscriptions and 3. modeling of web
thing
... breakouts B: 1. security & privacy, 2. existing
infrastructure vs. new challenges, 3.experiences with IOT, 4,
ACE, and 5. Sec Features & Plans
... Wiki
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Joint_IRTF_T2T_RG_/_W3C_WoT_IG_meeting_18-19_July_2015_in_Prague,_Czech_Republic
is about what we can add/contribute
... Question: What seems relevant to present? Any ideas /
comments
Dave: Suggest to plan agenda for both meeting IRTF and Sunnyvale F2F now..
JH: OK, lets postpone IRTF agenda and maybe take it to the list..
Dave: I wonder what is ready w.r.t. security&privacy... this is important
JH:
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting_29-31_July_2015_in_Sunnyvale_CA#Agenda
... what would we as a task fork want to address?
Dave: working group charter seems
to be very important to me
... charter should be ready by the end of the year
... real work is going to start next year
JH: each task force should know
which topics are important
... eg. come up with a common resource model .... reach
consensus and write it down in a document
Dave: focus also on metadata, which format a server is supporting
Joerg: agree to look ahead. nevertheless we also should try to conclude topics we can agree on
JH: outcome for me could be about 1.resource modeling, 2. metadata, 3. tech landscape, and 4. architecture model
Dave: working groups has to work on deliverables... like architecture models etc
<dsr> (I’ve just updated the agenda, so please reload the page)
JH: We could start adding the
afore mentioned objectives for the outcome of the f2f
... also ask other task forces to do the same
Dave: great
JH: Open day in Sunnyvale, any topics/outreach we want to see there
Dave: Talked to Simon Mayer. He is in contact with people we can invite..
<Louay> Technology Landscape section in the Wiki is updated: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/APIs_and_Protocols_TF#Technology_Landscape
Joerg: first day is about "guests"... and syncing between task forces
JH: Agree, need to wrap-up some discussion for each objective.. maybe also giving a short summary
Dave: We should also welcome demos...
JH: Any demos planned?
... none... lets add a point on that on wiki
... Lets come back to Prague meeting
... would it make sense to give a summary of our discussions
during that meeting?
... summary should be ready for Prague so that we can even
further improve it for our F2F
... modeling of type resources... have contribution from
EVRTHING.. should this be the starting point
<dsr> my regrets due to a conflicting meeting
JH: Who plans to attend Prague
meeting?
... It looks like only Joerg and me (Johannes) is
attending..
... let me ask what we should take to Prague...
... questions? white spaces?
Dave: there are a lot technical challenges... from small to big.. security privacy.. depends on the people attending the meeting
Joerg: We also have challenge to share same understanding of web of things and modeling... common reference
Dave: Yes, there should be a number of principles people can agree on
JH: Yes, let list them
... would be very good for the discussion
Dave: also linked data in relation to semantics..
JH: Could we summarize it to the Web principles..
Dave: Layering is also of importance.. especially for developers
JH: Should try to list
principles
... wrap-up: tech landscape (following presentations), IRTF
meeting (consensus on basic principles), F2F (4 objectives to
achieve)
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