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<trackbot> Date: 19 May 2015
<tantek> hey harry - we're considering cancelling the telcon for this week
<tantek> there's only two explicitly added agenda items
<cwebber2> SIP is down for me
<harry> Happy to reconvene next week.
<cwebber2> dialing in via phone
<tantek> and both of them are ok by elf-pavlik to be postponed to next week
<elf-pavlik> let's start the meeting and discuss canceling all together?
<cwebber2> didn't we have some leftover by last week?
<tantek> cwebber2: not according to the agenda
<harry> However, I know we have a backlog of ActivityStreams issues from jsnell
<harry> so if we want to go through those
<harry> We could maybe just do a quick meeting and go over open issues and next steps on the API
<harry> as aaronpk and rhiaro have done some good work
<tantek> harry - before you joined - that can be done async
<tantek> no need for telcon for that
<tantek> harry - is there anything that you need a resolution for today
<rhiaro> okay I"m just getting service unavailable for SIP
<harry> I think we should ask jsnell that?
<tantek> harry - that's a horrible excuse to spend time
<tantek> harry, I've been asking in here for past 15 minutes
<tantek> so far no objections to cancelling
<harry> There's a huge backlog of ActivityStreams items
<cwebber2> oh
<cwebber2> right
<tsyesika> rhiaro: me too
<rhiaro> oh no, zakim is dying :(
<harry> but I'm happy to leave that to editor's discretion, but if there's anything he wants input on, happy to do that
<tantek> and postponing the two explicit agenda items to next week
<cwebber2> I thought we wanted to talk about whether or not webid was FYN
<tsyesika> i'm also geting service unavailable
<rhiaro> cwebber2: but no evan
<tantek> cwebber2: not on the agenda
<cwebber2> ah yeah
if tantek is too busy or caught unawares re: chairing, perhaps Harry could do it
<cwebber2> is SIP working for anyone? seems not
(noting that tantek is in CSS WG meeting)
<tantek> Ok folks, proposal
<rhiaro> cwebber2: I'm getting an unavailable error I"ve never seen before
<melvster1> cwebber2: webid is FYN, using web standards, http and rdf (turtle)
<harry> I'm happy to step in if James Snell or any of the other editors
<aaronpk> poor zakim
<tantek> PROPOSAL: Postpone the two explicit agenda items from this week to next week, and ACTION ALL read https://github.com/w3c-social/Social-APIs-Brainstorming/ by next week
<tantek> please +1 / 0 / -1
<tantek> in IRC
<rhiaro> 0 since I can't dial in
<jasnell> I'm on
<tsyesika> i also can't
<elf-pavlik> keep meeting
<cwebber2> +0
<cwebber2> on postponing
<tantek> can't dial-in is a good reason to +1
<wilkie> +0
<cwebber2> since nobody can dial in it seems like
<elf-pavlik> AnnB: keep only if others can connect
<cwebber2> that's enough reason
<tantek> cwebber2: yes
<cwebber2> so maybe +1 even
<rhiaro> there are a bunch of people on already though
<cwebber2> seems like we'll be scrambling to keep it going
<rhiaro> maybe people on the phone should say something
<cwebber2> hm well I can call in via phone
Harry's going to check quickly with SysTeam
<elf-pavlik> jasnell: happy to go throught the AS2 issues
<tantek> jasnell is in both places
<wilkie> do we need a scribe then?
<elf-pavlik> one action done :)
<elf-pavlik> action-43
<trackbot> action-43 -- Pavlik elf to propose *lightweight* inference based on RDFa Vocabulary Expansion -- due 2015-04-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/43
<elf-pavlik> action-49
<trackbot> action-49 -- Pavlik elf to Publish as2.0 data on one's own website -- due 2015-03-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/49
<elf-pavlik> sorry this one :)
<tantek> if you can't dial-in, then I'd suggest +1
<harry> There does seem to be a SIP issue - we're tracking it down folks
<harry> but it won't be figured out within the next few minutes :(
<Loqi> aww, cheer up
<rhiaro> SIP issue asside, it does look like there are enough people for a call
yes, I agree
<tantek> rhiaro: that wasn't the question
too much to do to cancel
<tantek> also not a good reason to spend them time
<tantek> AnnB - not according to the agenda
<elf-pavlik> we could touch on How to relate as:Profile to as:Object it describes?
<tantek> ok I'll action folks to add to next week's agenda accordingly then
we need to get better re: agenda
<tantek> AnnB - those that say "too much to do" need to add that "too much" explicitly to the agenda
<cwebber2> elf-pavlik: correct
<tantek> otherwise it might as well not exist
(Jasnell looking at open issues .. )
Harry asks jasnell if this is a good time to review the open issue
jasnell: actually, might be better to spend his time getting an updated working draft
<tantek> Alright, we've given the proposal 5 minutes, and there are +0s and +1 maybe. No objections. Proposal passes and this week's telcon is canceled. Please if you have urgent or "too much to do" items add it to the agenda for next week.
<tantek> RESOLVED: Postpone the two explicit agenda items from this week to next week, and ACTION ALL read https://github.com/w3c-social/Social-APIs-Brainstorming/ by next week
<elf-pavlik> -1
<tantek> you may have the remainder of your hour
<tantek> elf-pavlik: I concluded that based on your earlier "no objection" remark
<jasnell> fyi... Harry is wanting to have elf discuss raised issues despite resolution
<tantek> REMINDER ALL: If you have "urgent" (needs resolution by today, or your implementation is blocked) items, or if you think (or *said* in IRC "too much to do" - "lots to talk about") it is your responsibility to add it to the Agenda *BEFORE* the call.
<harry> We'll do a quick meeting (given they are both on phone) while we have elf and jasnell on the phone but save formal resolutions for next meeting when we have quorum.
<tantek> harry - the meeting has been canceled for today
<tantek> please feel free to use any mediums you wish for informal discussions
<harry> So the meeting is formally cancelled but we can use the hour to discuss some open issues, which we can formally resolve next meeting.
<tantek> especially if it gets people to align.
<harry> Sound like a plan tantek?
<tantek> I'm going to add to next week's agenda - re-opening IP licensing of PuSH 0.4
<elf-pavlik> jasnell: we have as:Profile but not way to say that it is about this as:Person or as:Event
<tantek> AnnB - that also wasn't the question
<tantek> meeting for the sake of meeting is insufficient
<scribe> scribenick: AnnB
<harry> elf asked to remove profile or clarify it
jasnell: we have a week or 2 to
figure profile object, how it's used, before Working Draft
published
... need some proposals
<Zakim> elf-pavlik, you wanted to discuss will update draft include as:Profile ?
<elf-pavlik> action-49
<trackbot> action-49 -- Pavlik elf to Publish as2.0 data on one's own website -- due 2015-03-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/49
<elf-pavlik> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Deployments#Activity_Streams_2.0
elf-pavlik: wants people to
publish AS 2.0 data on their sites
... rhiaro, elf, and jasnell have done so
<harry> OK, happy to see implementations and a wikipage to track them.
elf-pavlik: that way people can be consuming each others' feeds and see how it works
harry: any other technical issues to discuss?
<cwebber2> nothin'
<cwebber2> good to close out
<wilkie> nope. good call. haha
harry: notes that neither rhiaro
or tsyesika are on phone (due to SIP probs)
... thanks for very brief meeting; will reconvene next week
<wilkie> thanks!!
<harry> Informal meeting closed.
<harry> trackbot, end meeting
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