HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 14 May 2015

<trackbot> Date: 14 May 2015

<Titi_Alone> Same for mailing list?

<Titi_Alone> Can't call Zakim if not group participant?

<paulc> Titi_Alone: This IRC channel is being used at this time for the weekly HTML WG meeting.

<paulc> Titi_Alone: Do you need help?

<Titi_Alone> paulc: Yes, I want to know if I can hear the conference despite that I'm not a member of the group.

<paulc> Titi_Alone: You should probably attempt to join the WG first.

<scribe> scribenick: rubys

<paulc> test

Open ACTION items

action-249?

<trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2015-04-05 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249

paulc: this one is nearly all done; the principle part that isn't done is triage; we are going to put that on hold until the plan is more clear
... the document is in place and is picking up the (relatively few) WHATWG changes

action-252?

<trackbot> action-252 -- Sam Ruby to - contact polyglot proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due 2015-06-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252

paulc: after TPAC, the chairs have attempted to contact the editors; one has left the wg, and the other is inactive; for now the chairs will put this on hold
... there was a survey, which was close. We will reevaluate when rechartering

action-253?

<trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-05-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253

paulc: due in 10 days

Recent WG Decisions

WG Decision: Return Canvas2D to Last Call http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0018.html

<plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-2dcontext-20150514/

paulc: there were substantive changes for accessibility features and to correct some things that previously were left out
... last call period is approximately 4 weeks

b) WG Decision: Move Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) specification under the terms of the 2014 Process Document http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0019.html

paulc: this will enable the editors to use the new publishing tool

WG Decision: Move Using WAI-ARIA in HTML specification under the terms of the 2014 Process Document http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0022.html

paulc: this is co-published, and is awaiting a decision by PF

janina: there may be confusion in titling; ARIA is HTML is fully HTML WG (previously resolved)

<plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/

janina: using HTML in HTML is primarily authoring guidance: that we want to continue to jointly manage.

<paulc> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-aria-in-html-20140626/ Using WAI-ARIA in HTML

janina: there were two requests from Steve, there is consensus on heartbeat, but not yet on automated publishing
... I'll reach out to Steve

paulc: the HTML WG doesn't require permission for heartbeats, I think we are OK here

<plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/

plh: I don't know where the editor's draft for Using WAI-ARIA in HTML is

<plh> http://w3c.github.io/aria-in-html/

<paulc> Above link is Editor's draft of Using WAI-ARIA in HTML

janina: the short-name is confusing

paulc: very confusing

WG Decision: Move ARIA in HTML specification under the terms of the 2014 Process Document http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0021.html

paulc: this document had a heartbeat document today

HTML WG charter and plan

a) Update on HTML plan next steps, Philippe http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0017.html http://www.w3.org/2015/Talks/0506-html/

paulc: charter expires June 30th; lots of discussions re: reengaging the community

plh: there are two things happening in parallel.

<paulc> WG charter: http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html

plh: there is a desire to have a CG with a wide scope to incubate ideas, there is a draft charter

<plh> https://w3c.github.io/charter-html/incubator-cg-charter.html

plh: the long pole is thought to be the tooling to track contributions
... for the WG, the situation is more complicated and will take longer. Adrian Bateman made a proposal prior to the AC; addressing the existing overlap of HTML and WebApps
... the proposal is to reshuffle and end up with four groups

<plh> https://github.com/w3c/charter-html/issues/14

plh: Robin has proposed a split
... these proposals need wider review. This has been discussed at the AB and AC.

<plh> http://w3c.github.io/charter-html/html-plan.html

plh: there is an issue with respect to the workmode. The proposal is to be "data driven"; we need to expand on what that means
... interop will be done by the WG.
... timeline regarding the WG is not likely to happen before the charter expires; we will need to figure out how to extend the group and for how long
... I haven't talked to the WebApps WG yet

Other publications

https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications

a) W3C DOM4 Last Call ends on May 19 http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dom-20150428/ See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0024.html

paulc: I sent out a reminder; before the reminder there were no comments
... in response, it appears that both Boris and Ted are concerned
... it may mean that some parts may need to be marked at risk

plh: we need to evaluate these comments, and also figure out why we didn't catch this earlier
... part of the problem is that new content was added since the first CR

b) Call for Implementer Interest: Form HTTP Extensions http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Feb/0000.html See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Dec/0020.html Status: Awaiting feedback from implementers

paulc: I've been trying to do direct contact

Task Force reports

janina: there will be a F2F in July for A11y; location TBD (spain/london)
... there is an ongoing debate/discussion re ARIA role extensions for digital publishing; looking to pull the right people into a telecon
... transcript extension specification: John/Chaals have the action; we need input from the Media TF to help pick from the potential solutions

paulc: the transcript issue is related to issue 194

<paulc> Media TF April F2F minutes: http://www.w3.org/2015/04/15-html-media-minutes.html and http://www.w3.org/2015/04/16-html-media-minutes.html

paulc: people should look at Ted's input

<janina> 1/join #aria

<janina> I'll be late. HTML-WG call running a little while still

paulc: we continue to make slow progress
... the next progression step for EME would be to go into CR (per 2014 process)
... we don't have anything additional to report related to Canvas
... the editing TF has been largely dormant
... webapps did appt a new editor

<plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-aria-in-html-20150514/

Chair and Scribe for next meeting

paulc: we will leave that item open; I certainly don't think we need to meet every week

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