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<eparsons> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 04 March 2015
lewismc
<phila> ed: Begins the meeting and asks for a scribe
<phila> scribe: lewismc
<eparsons> http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes
PROPOSE: Approve last weeks minutes
<aharth> +1
<phila> phila: Apologises for last week's rubbish minutes. RRSAgent is running this week
<billroberts> +1
<eparsons> +1
<ChrisLittle> zakim aagg is me
<phila> +1
<MattPerry> +1
<JoshLieberman> +1
<KJanowicz> +1
<Linda_> I dont see my name in the Present list
<ChrisLittle> +1
RESOLVE: Last weeks minutes APPROVED
<phila> I'll add it Linda
<Linda_> thx phila
OGC Patent Call determines that these calls go ahead
eparsons: new people on the call
Alex_Coley: introducing himself
on the call
... contributed very much towards this working group
lewismc: introduce himself on the call
<KarlG_> 1.650.724.aahh is KarlG_
eparsons: next item, spend
remainder of call on the issues for F2F in Barcelona
... main order of activities to go through use cases, package
them and group then in similar areas
... common requirements for best practicies in terms of
technology scope
... looking at those technologies
... Yolanda has set out an agenda for gathering use cases
<phila> Yolanda's e-mail
<YolandaGil> The organization of use cases for the W3C Provenance XG is described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html
YolandaGil: proposed an agenda
for the Provenance Incubator Group
... how could we describe or highlight another use case and
manage the contributions?
... so setting out a plan as described in the W3C Provenance XG
document and the email sent to the list the strategy for
accepting contributions and also managing contributions
... use cases are important to communicate
... create 3 sythensizing scenarios (flagship) ideas
... 1) general web scenario , 2) science, 3) contracts and
industry setting
... has a team of curators who worked with the authors of the
use cases
... highlight what the editors are after
... navigate through use cases to see what they highligh
... use curation as a mechanism for arriving at the threee
flagship scenarios... this enables the group to work more
effectively.
eparsons: useful input and
overlapping with the scoping questions
... how long did the curation process take?
YolandaGil: about 2 or 3 months
total
... this work can be combined with other work
... began to do other tasks in parallel
eparsons: opening them up for
questions
... useful for gathering and managing use cases
ChrisLittle: when you were curating use cases, was it easy to extract underlying structure or was it more intensive task?
YolandaGil: that was something
that was constructed as a group
... once you abstract away from the use case into the flagship
scenarios they become the groups scenarios as oppose to
personal use cases
lewismc: is there a template for gathering use cases?
YolandaGil: yes, the template has
dimensions which represent the spatial domain
... representation was something the use cases describe, but
also where the data should be stored
... 3rd topic was how a user interprets data
... maybe some template of a similar nature would be useful for
this WG
eparsons: scoping mechanism is a
good filter for use cases
... template to identify common characteristics from across use
cases
... trial and error approach, we can iterate until we find a
good fit
<eparsons> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona
eparsons: a number of individuals
have put together what the agenda should look like
... think that the best manner to approach is to split in to
groups then take one requirement for each group
... spend most of the day doing that with break for 1pm for
lunch
... after lunch come together to derive common
characteristics
... towards end of day run lightning talks for technologies
overview
... hard stop at 5:30PM
... would appreciate some input on how to define
subgroups
... opening up to questions and comments for the agenda?
KarlG_: noticed that OWL Time ontology is not an existing technology
eparsons: no one has come forward to present on the topic, therefore it has not been included
<phila> Are you volunteering KarlG_ ?
KarlG_: associated question, many technology incl, GeoJSON have deficiencies which may make their way into discussion
eparsons: lightning talks act to get everyone on to the same page.
<KJanowicz> IMHO the talks are just 'selected topics' not an overview about all details and all relevant technologies
eparsons: will drill into more detail further down the line
KarlG_: will not be able to make it so cannot commit to a presentation
Linda_: ends at 5:30PM... is that not 6:30PM?
eparsons: No
Linda_: topic discussed at the end, thought that the idea was to look into general technologies which fit into the best practicies as oppose to other technologies outside of that immediate scope
eparsons: lightning talks are
only meant to getting everyone on the same page, they do not
represent an exclusive list
... F2F meeting organizers are going to make use of GoToMeeting
software for remote participants to participate as fully as
possible
<JoshLieberman> When you click on a GTM meeting link, it will download the app at the time.
<phila> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_Evening_meetup
phila: minor point regarding
bottom of agenda page, Kerry will be finding a place where
everyone can meet up
... location will be on the wiki shortly
<ChrisLittle> +1
<AndreaPerego> +1
<JoshLieberman> The link to the go to meeting session for the f2f is already reserved: https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093
eparsons: F2F next week will be no telecon, week after will be review of F2F
phila: suggests reading long list
of use cases prior to F2F
... please check for day light savings time
... U.S. is changing DST, so please keep an eye
billroberts: not going to be able
to join the F2F,
... is it possible to submit some 'homework'
eparsons: please put all on to
the public list
... template ideas, general groupings, etc
... all to the public list
... these can then be taken to the F2F
ChrisLittle: was trying quite
hard to get a health use case
... possibly produce a health use case
<phila> I added a medical use case this eve on behalf of Erich Bremer who has joined the group
<JoshLieberman> There are demographic use cases with same characteristic
eparsons: use cases gathering task will end shortly so getting them in soon enough would be great
Linda_: upon review of use case, they all seem to be public or government... with no private
eparsons: I have added some private ones... it is important to include these
<ChrisLittle> bye
<KarlG_> bye all
<AndreaPerego> See you in Barcelona
<JoshLieberman> bye
see everonenetxt week
<KJanowicz> bye
<eparsons> bye all
<Alex_Coley> bye
<MattPerry> bye