IRC log of social on 2015-01-13

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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Zakim, this will be SOCL

18:03:04 [Zakim]

ok, trackbot; I see T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago

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Meeting: Social Web Working Group Teleconference

18:03:05 [trackbot]

Date: 13 January 2015

18:03:12 [aaronpk]

Zakim, who is on the call?

18:03:12 [Zakim]

T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM has not yet started, aaronpk

18:03:13 [Zakim]

On IRC I see RRSAgent, Lloyd_Fassett, danbri, bblfish, jasnell_, AnnBassetti, eprodrom, tantek, shepazu_away, Arnaud, KevinMarks, rhiaro_, wilkie, Morbus, cwebber2, pdurbin,

18:03:13 [Zakim]

... bigbluehat, JakeHart, mattl, bret, Loqi, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, rektide_, dwhly, kylewm, Tsyesika, jessica_lily, aaronpk, trackbot, sandro, wseltzer

18:03:20 [Arnaud]

zakim, this is socl

18:03:20 [Zakim]

ok, Arnaud; that matches T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM

18:03:28 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

18:03:29 [Arnaud]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

18:03:29 [Zakim]

On the phone I see jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, ??P5, +1.541.410.aaaa, aaronpk, ??P0, ??P9, Sandro, [IPcaller]

18:03:39 [Zakim]

-??P0

18:03:47 [tantek]

Zakim, mute ??P5

18:03:48 [Zakim]

??P5 should now be muted

18:03:55 [Zakim]

+Ann

18:04:04 [tantek]

Zakim, mute ??P9

18:04:04 [Zakim]

??P9 should now be muted

18:04:19 [tantek]

since you can't hear me, I'm P9 :)

18:04:26 [tantek]

zakim, ??p9 is me

18:04:26 [Zakim]

+tantek; got it

18:04:30 [tantek]

zakim, unmute me

18:04:30 [Zakim]

tantek should no longer be muted

18:04:43 [cwebber2]

zakim, ??P5 is me

18:04:43 [Zakim]

+cwebber2; got it

18:04:45 [harry]

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18:04:46 [aaronpk]

tantek++

18:04:48 [Loqi]

tantek has 139 karma

18:04:49 [Zakim]

+??P10

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18:04:52 [cwebber2]

-q ??P5

18:05:31 [tantek]

scribenick AnnBassetti

18:05:42 [tantek]

Zakim, who is scribing?

18:05:42 [Zakim]

I don't understand your question, tantek.

18:05:50 [sandro]

scribenick: AnnBassetti

18:05:50 [tantek]

scribenick: AnnBassetti

18:06:13 [tantek]

zakim, who is here?

18:06:13 [Zakim]

On the phone I see jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, cwebber2 (muted), +1.541.410.aaaa, aaronpk, tantek, Sandro, [IPcaller], Ann, rhiaro_ (muted)

18:06:16 [Zakim]

On IRC I see hhalpin, harry, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lloyd_Fassett, danbri, bblfish, jasnell, AnnBassetti, eprodrom, tantek, shepazu_away, Arnaud, KevinMarks, rhiaro_, wilkie, Morbus,

18:06:16 [Zakim]

... cwebber2, pdurbin, bigbluehat, JakeHart, mattl, bret, Loqi, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, rektide_, dwhly, kylewm, Tsyesika, jessica_lily, aaronpk, trackbot, sandro, wseltzer

18:06:21 [eprodrom]

q+

18:06:28 [Lloyd_Fassett]

zakim, +1.541.410.aaaa is me

18:06:28 [Zakim]

+Lloyd_Fassett; got it

18:06:35 [tantek]

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-06-minutes

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+??P11

18:06:56 [jessica_lily]

me

18:07:06 [tantek]

Zakim, ??P11 is jessica_lily

18:07:07 [Zakim]

+jessica_lily; got it

18:07:20 [AnnBassetti]

approve minutes .... no objections

18:07:25 [jessica_lily]

thanks

18:07:50 [cwebber2]

no objections here, look good

18:07:52 [AnnBassetti]

approved

18:08:04 [tantek]

q?

18:08:11 [tantek]

ack eprodrom

18:08:21 [AnnBassetti]

also need to approve minutes from last meeting

18:08:24 [AnnBassetti]

<link?>

18:08:36 [eprodrom]

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2014-12-16-minutes

18:08:40 [eprodrom]

Sorry, they were in the agenda

18:08:56 [eprodrom]

+1

18:09:09 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: suggests postponing approval until next week, so people can have time to read

18:09:35 [AnnBassetti]

... no objections; added to next agenda

18:09:47 [AnnBassetti]

... next week's meeting on schedule per usual

18:09:52 [tantek]

next week: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-20

18:10:16 [tantek]

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#Discussion_of_media_objects_in_Activity_Streams_2.0

18:10:25 [AnnBassetti]

... agenda: Media Objects 2.0 ... suggested by elf, but he's out sick

18:10:42 [AnnBassetti]

... thus postponed

18:10:49 [AnnBassetti]

... agenda: Activity Streams

18:11:00 [tantek]

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#Activity_Streams_2.0_publication

18:11:13 [AnnBassetti]

James Snell:

18:11:20 [AnnBassetti]

<sorry, missed intro words>

18:11:37 [AnnBassetti]

... recommend we update working draft

18:11:53 [Zakim]

-rhiaro_

18:12:01 [AnnBassetti]

... both vocabulary and core working drafts

18:12:19 [Zakim]

+??P10

18:12:30 [jasnell]

http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html

18:12:35 [eprodrom]

q?

18:12:36 [jasnell]

http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html

18:12:37 [eprodrom]

q+

18:12:46 [tantek]

http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html

18:12:46 [tantek]

http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html

18:12:46 [tantek]

ack eprodrom

18:13:05 [AnnBassetti]

Evan: any outstanding issues on 1st Working Draft?

18:13:14 [AnnBassetti]

JamesS: no ...

18:13:40 [AnnBassetti]

Evan: is next step to propose moving this to next Working Draft?

18:13:44 [jasnell]

I've merged in the extended vocabulary work into the editor's drafts. I propose that we update the Working Drafts based on the current editor's drafts

18:13:55 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: next step is to ask if there are any other outstanding issues

18:14:04 [harry]

just ping me when moving things to Working Draft

18:14:14 [AnnBassetti]

.... I think, James, you asked me to do .... <xx>

18:14:21 [AnnBassetti]

... re: microformats

18:14:22 [harry]

and I'm happy to send it in and go through pubrules

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18:15:04 [AnnBassetti]

James: added <some info re: microformats> but not an expert, would appreciate review

18:15:10 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: will take a look

18:15:26 [AnnBassetti]

James: be aware there are over 900 examples, many of which are microformats!

18:15:31 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: will look

18:16:26 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: Tantek, review microformats, due Jan. 14, 2015

18:16:26 [trackbot]

Error finding 'Tantek,'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/Social/track/users>.

18:16:51 [eprodrom]

AnnBassetti: "ACTION tantek blah blah blah"

18:17:11 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: tantek review microformats due Jan 14, 2015

18:17:12 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-26 - Review microformats due jan 14, 2015 [on Tantek Çelik - due 2015-01-20].

18:17:35 [tantek]

AnnBassetti: can you add the URL to that action?

18:17:43 [the_frey]

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18:17:47 [tantek]

URLs

18:18:24 [tantek]

trackbot, 26?

18:18:24 [trackbot]

Sorry, tantek, I don't understand 'trackbot, 26?'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.

18:18:48 [sandro]

action-26?

18:18:48 [trackbot]

action-26 -- Tantek Çelik to Review microformats due jan 14, 2015 -- due 2015-01-20 -- OPEN

18:18:48 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/26

18:19:39 [aaronpk]

i just update the action with the urls

18:19:48 [AnnBassetti]

<sorting out how to properly record an action>

18:19:59 [aaronpk]

s/update/updated

18:20:29 [eprodrom]

+1

18:21:03 [nicolagreco]

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18:21:44 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: proposal for James to prepare updated working drafts for Activity Streams specs on Friday

18:21:45 [Loqi]

I added a countdown for 1/16 12:00am (#5576)

18:22:00 [tiborKatelbach]

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18:22:01 [AnnBassetti]

... proposal ACTION team to review those drafts

18:22:01 [tantek]

+1

18:22:03 [jasnell]

+1

18:22:05 [rhiaro_]

+1

18:22:07 [AnnBassetti]

+1

18:22:09 [eprodrom]

+1

18:22:10 [cwebber2]

+1

18:22:10 [jessica_lily]

+1

18:22:11 [aaronpk]

tantek, your mic seems to silence until you start speaking, so the first couple hundred milliseconds of your audio is dropped when you start speaking after a gap of silence

18:22:45 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: better to capture explicit support

18:22:46 [tantek]

Zakim, who is here?

18:22:46 [Zakim]

On the phone I see jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, cwebber2 (muted), Lloyd_Fassett, aaronpk, tantek, Sandro, [IPcaller], Ann, jessica_lily, rhiaro_ (muted)

18:22:48 [Zakim]

On IRC I see tiborKatelbach, nicolagreco, the_frey, danbri1, blooby, hhalpin, harry, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lloyd_Fassett, jasnell, AnnBassetti, eprodrom, tantek, shepazu_away, Arnaud,

18:22:48 [Zakim]

... KevinMarks, rhiaro_, wilkie, Morbus, cwebber2, pdurbin, bigbluehat, JakeHart, mattl, bret, Loqi, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, rektide_, dwhly, kylewm, Tsyesika, jessica_lily,

18:22:48 [Zakim]

... aaronpk, trackbot, sandro, wseltzer

18:22:49 [Zakim]

+tiborKatelbach

18:23:13 [blooby]

I have a poor voip connection

18:23:19 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: checking why people aren't indicating their support or rejection of proposal

18:23:23 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller.a]

18:23:32 [wilkie]

Zakim, IPcaller.a is me

18:23:32 [Zakim]

+wilkie; got it

18:23:33 [aaronpk]

+1 sounds good

18:23:38 [wilkie]

me. I joined.

18:23:39 [wilkie]

:)

18:23:45 [wilkie]

sorry I'm late

18:23:50 [eprodrom]

Seems like pretty strong consensus with no objections

18:24:19 [eprodrom]

Agreed!

18:24:23 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: declares consensus; would prefer more responses

18:24:55 [jasnell]

if anyone finds any issues before friday, post them to the mailing list as well as github

18:25:19 [eprodrom]

jasnell: I think we're about to do that in the next section

18:25:23 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: James Snell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015

18:25:23 [trackbot]

'James' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jsnell, jktauber).

18:25:36 [jasnell]

yes, jsnell

18:25:58 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: jasnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015

18:25:58 [trackbot]

Error finding 'jasnell'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/Social/track/users>.

18:26:11 [wilkie]

'jsnell'

18:26:30 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: jsnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015

18:26:30 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-27 - Update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by jan 16, 2015 [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].

18:27:09 [aaronpk]

here is the URL http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/27

18:27:21 [aaronpk]

maybe trackbot should post the URL of the action after it creates it?

18:27:52 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: jsnell to prepare working draft for publication based on http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html by Jan 16, 2105

18:27:53 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-28 - Prepare working draft for publication based on http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html by jan 16, 2105 [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].

18:27:54 [jasnell]

q+

18:28:07 [aaronpk]

I will go update 27

18:28:12 [tantek]

q?

18:28:16 [tantek]

ack jasnell

18:28:44 [Zakim]

-rhiaro_

18:29:00 [AnnBassetti]

James: these Working Drafts have been stable for awhile, thus would like to consider moving to Last Call

18:29:07 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: yes, that will be the next step

18:29:12 [Zakim]

+??P10

18:29:33 [AnnBassetti]

... having stability on the editor's working draft is important for moving to next steps

18:30:19 [AnnBassetti]

James: if anyone sees an issue in the spec(s), please raise issue on GitHub, but copy the mailing list

18:30:27 [AnnBassetti]

... will ensure James sees it promptly

18:30:36 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: anything else on this topic?

18:30:38 [AnnBassetti]

<no>

18:30:38 [tantek]

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#Microsyntaxes

18:30:46 [eprodrom]

q+

18:30:49 [AnnBassetti]

... next topic: Microsyntaxes

18:30:51 [Zakim]

+Wendy

18:30:55 [AnnBassetti]

.... Evan's topic?

18:31:07 [AnnBassetti]

Evan: actually elf's, but happy to speak to it

18:31:08 [tantek]

ack eprodrom

18:31:20 [AnnBassetti]

... issue came up on mailing list

18:31:29 [jasnell]

q+

18:31:44 [AnnBassetti]

... number of diff systems doing microsyntaxes

18:32:07 [AnnBassetti]

... example: with Twitter you put @name to mention a particular user

18:32:33 [AnnBassetti]

... Twitter then routes that tweet in a special way

18:33:01 [tantek]

Instagram also handles @-references like that

18:33:02 [AnnBassetti]

... Facebook, Google do similar, with diff syntaxes

18:33:17 [AnnBassetti]

... discussion about how to recognize this

18:33:23 [AnnBassetti]

... via our mailing list

18:33:43 [AnnBassetti]

... how to handle "magic" symbols

18:33:52 [AnnBassetti]

... receiver should not have to do special parsing

18:34:07 [AnnBassetti]

... To: and Cc: properties should handle

18:34:59 [AnnBassetti]

... perhaps add note in Activity Streams that microsyntax in content for other properties should not have to be parsed by the processor

18:35:25 [AnnBassetti]

... will check if there's a github issue; will check

18:35:37 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: do you want this to be in the Friday draft?

18:36:21 [tantek]

q?

18:36:21 [AnnBassetti]

Evan: this wasn't proposed by me ... nice to have by Friday, but not a crisis if added later

18:36:37 [tantek]

ack jasnell

18:36:38 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: agrees

18:36:52 [AnnBassetti]

James: I'm the one who started this on mailing list

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18:37:04 [AnnBassetti]

... won't be prob to add by Friday to the spec

18:37:28 [AnnBassetti]

... I don't see any normative changes; should be just editorial

18:37:33 [AnnBassetti]

Evan: agrees

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18:37:59 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: sounds as if we're resolved on how to handle microsyntax

18:38:06 [AnnBassetti]

... any issues, Evan or james?

18:38:10 [AnnBassetti]

<no>

18:38:19 [tantek]

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#OpenSocial_Press_Release

18:38:25 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: last agenda item ... Open Social announcement

18:38:41 [AnnBassetti]

... press release issued shortly after last meeting

18:38:45 [jasnell]

q+

18:39:09 [AnnBassetti]

... want to ensure people are aware of this occurence

18:39:22 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller.a]

18:39:30 [AnnBassetti]

.... Open Social has formally moved their work to W3C

18:39:31 [harry]

Zakim, IPcaller.a is hhalpin

18:39:31 [Zakim]

+hhalpin; got it

18:39:38 [tantek]

q?

18:39:38 [eprodrom]

q+

18:39:45 [harry]

q+

18:39:47 [AnnBassetti]

... and expect this WG, plus the Social Web IG to do any follow-on work

18:40:19 [tantek]

ack jasnell

18:41:02 [AnnBassetti]

James: notes that Press Release raised some issues for some ...

18:41:25 [AnnBassetti]

... he cannot speak for <folks active in Open Social>

18:41:41 [AnnBassetti]

... believes any add'l resources they had, they donated to W3C and decided to close themselves down

18:41:59 [AnnBassetti]

... does not believe there are any implications that this WG would work on anything specific to that work

18:42:02 [harry]

s/<folks active in Open Social/Open Social officers board (Matt Marum, etc.)

18:42:11 [tantek]

q?

18:42:14 [tantek]

ack eprodrom

18:42:34 [harry]

we can hear you evan

18:42:38 [Zakim]

-rhiaro

18:43:12 [harry]

we have no formal commitment to existing OpenSocial specs, although we hope this work and membership can feed into the Social WG's new work.

18:43:15 [AnnBassetti]

Evan: I wondered, did this announcement mean that we are expected to maintain current or new version of OpenSocial spec?

18:43:18 [jasnell]

no, there are no obligations with regards to the opensocial specs themselves.

18:43:20 [Zakim]

+??P10

18:43:31 [AnnBassetti]

... worried that this implied we might be taking on a big amount of new work

18:43:37 [Arnaud]

there is no change to the charter, nor any proposal or request to do so

18:43:53 [harry]

Yep, no additional charter items

18:43:55 [Arnaud]

so, this doesn't change what we are doing

18:44:00 [AnnBassetti]

... appears that OpenSocial gave us their "seal of approval", but without any new charter or additional work

18:44:08 [AnnBassetti]

... seems positive

18:44:17 [Arnaud]

q+

18:44:35 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: I agree

18:44:50 [AnnBassetti]

... I cited our charter in the announcement for that reason

18:45:08 [AnnBassetti]

... maintaining the OpenSocial spec is NOT in our charter; we need to be clear about that

18:45:22 [AnnBassetti]

... if anyone thinks we should do that, it needs to be added to our charter

18:45:31 [jasnell]

to be clear, no one has suggested that the social wg ought to maintain the opensocial specs

18:45:41 [eprodrom]

q+

18:45:45 [AnnBassetti]

... does anyone think we need to add that to our charter?

18:45:59 [tantek]

q?

18:46:14 [tantek]

ack harry

18:46:57 [AnnBassetti]

Harry: we had to keep the announcement secret until announced .. apologizes for no preceding discussion with WG

18:47:27 [AnnBassetti]

... no formal obligation

18:47:37 [AnnBassetti]

... hope some of them might join this WG

18:48:18 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: <confirms accuracy of minutes>

18:48:22 [AnnBassetti]

Harry: <agrees>

18:48:35 [tantek]

q?

18:48:43 [harry]

again, if anyone is worried or has concerns, do feel free to email

18:48:46 [tantek]

ack Arnaud

18:49:05 [AnnBassetti]

Arnaud: no change to the charter, and no one has asked for change to charter

18:49:06 [harry]

we thought that since there would be no change to the charter, this is more a big +1 to the existing work and a chance to get new folks involved than anything else.

18:49:09 [AnnBassetti]

... good news

18:49:20 [harry]

Also, this clarifies the space.

18:49:36 [AnnBassetti]

... Open Social Foundation acknowledged that the "social web" work is happening here, in this W3C WG

18:49:56 [AnnBassetti]

... OSF had some $$ left, which they donated to us

18:50:04 [wseltzer]

q+

18:50:13 [AnnBassetti]

... perhaps towards a F2F dinner or some such

18:50:17 [tantek]

ack eprodrom

18:50:36 [harry]

So if you are a developer, you can just go to Social WG

18:50:41 [harry]

for standards, IG for use-case

18:50:48 [harry]

q+

18:51:00 [jasnell]

that's something I can talk to Matt about

18:51:02 [AnnBassetti]

Evan: re: Harry's point ... wonder if our WG chairs might reach out to former OSF members, inviting them to participate here

18:51:04 [jasnell]

I can take that action

18:51:14 [jasnell]

yes please

18:51:20 [jasnell]

otherwise I'll forget :-)

18:51:22 [harry]

Yes, it would be good to invite OSF people here

18:51:36 [harry]

We've seen some emails from Matt Marum from SugarCRM but a lot aren't here

18:51:55 [harry]

participants

18:52:04 [eprodrom]

We'd want all the Open Social member organizations and their contact people

18:52:21 [jasnell]

jsnell will reach out to previous opensocial members to solicit participation in the Social WG

18:52:38 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: jsnell to reach out to Open Social Foundation participants to invite them to join the W3C Social Web WG

18:52:38 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-29 - Reach out to open social foundation participants to invite them to join the w3c social web wg [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].

18:52:48 [tantek]

q?

18:52:50 [tantek]

ack wseltzer

18:52:54 [harry]

q- hhalpin

18:52:57 [harry]

q- harry

18:53:09 [AnnBassetti]

Wendy: thanks Evan and James for the outreach! good collaboration!

18:53:31 [AnnBassetti]

... with "lawyer hat" on, notes W3C has not yet seen the $$

18:53:45 [tantek]

q?

18:54:05 [AnnBassetti]

... does not know how much $$ there will actually be

18:54:20 [AnnBassetti]

... actual conclusion and transfer is still in work

18:54:47 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: notes OpenSocial.org domain name now redirects to one W3C blog post

18:55:07 [AnnBassetti]

... wonders if any of the OSF content will be archived and preserved?

18:55:29 [AnnBassetti]

Sandro: in the past, W3C has occasionally taken on a web site for archival purposes

18:55:44 [AnnBassetti]

... not sure if it's appropriate here

18:55:53 [AnnBassetti]

Ann: what is process to make that happen?

18:55:56 [harry]

I think TimBL is not needed

18:56:01 [harry]

I can file a sysreq@w3.org

18:56:13 [AnnBassetti]

Sandro: TimBL thought it was important and got SysTeam to do it

18:56:14 [harry]

but I think it's just in the backlog

18:56:22 [AnnBassetti]

Arnaud: thinks this was part of the negotiation

18:56:46 [AnnBassetti]

... that they would keep the domain and single page

18:56:55 [nicolagreco]

nicolagreco has joined #social

18:56:55 [tantek]

for example this document on opensocial.org just redirects to the blog post: http://docs.opensocial.org/display/OSF/OpenSocial+State+of+the+Union+2011+~+May+12%2C+2011

18:57:13 [jasnell]

the specs are archived on github

18:57:18 [jasnell]

https://github.com/OpenSocial/spec

18:57:40 [AnnBassetti]

Wendy: <said about the domain and single page> .. if this group thinks there is specific content to be saved, we should point it out

18:58:21 [AnnBassetti]

... we should identify the crucial content, so W3C can look into it

18:58:58 [harry]

IMHO its probably ok to just keep OpenSocial on github

18:59:17 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: modest request: it would be nice if at least blog posts from OSF could be preserved, to be referenced as history

18:59:28 [AnnBassetti]

... including permalinks

18:59:30 [jasnell]

I'll take that action item to follow up on also

18:59:40 [harry]

I'm happy to ask Systems Team if ex-OSF people

18:59:42 [jasnell]

meaning that I'll ask the opensocial folks about it and report back

18:59:45 [harry]

are ok with that

19:00:33 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: jsnell to ask OpenSocial folks about W3C archiving their blog posts

19:00:33 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-30 - Ask opensocial folks about w3c archiving their blog posts [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].

19:00:34 [jasnell]

got an answer from andy

19:00:50 [jasnell]

Andy Smith says, "we have backed all of them up, and they can be made available if necessary"

19:01:06 [harry]

will go to me

19:01:06 [jasnell]

"but we felt given the direction of the work and community it was not necessary to manage the migration over"

19:01:17 [jasnell]

"In terms of twitter and social media, that will gradaully shift over to the w3c exclusively over the next 6 months or so"

19:01:19 [tantek]

simple request from the Social Web WG: can W3C at least archive the social content (e.g. blog posts) from opensocial.org?

19:01:26 [AnnBassetti]

ACTION: harry will ask W3C SysTeam about prospect for archiving OSF blog posts and perhaps other content

19:01:26 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-31 - Will ask w3c systeam about prospect for archiving osf blog posts and perhaps other content [on Harry Halpin - due 2015-01-20].

19:01:33 [jasnell]

q+

19:01:50 [tantek]

q?

19:01:52 [tantek]

ack jas

19:01:55 [tantek]

ack jasnell

19:02:53 [AnnBassetti]

James: other content might be the OSF Twitter account, ...

19:03:08 [AnnBassetti]

... right person to ask is Andy Smith, who is my colleague at IBM

19:03:18 [AnnBassetti]

... I will liaise with him

19:03:38 [harry]

jasnell, let's co-ordinate when you are ready to publish those drafts!

19:03:39 [AnnBassetti]

Tantek: past our closing time .. any thing else?

19:03:46 [AnnBassetti]

... end of meeting

19:03:48 [eprodrom]

Thanks Tantek!

19:03:52 [AnnBassetti]

... thanks all!

19:03:55 [jasnell]

harry +1

19:04:00 [Zakim]

-eprodrom

19:04:02 [cwebber2]

thanks AnnBassetti !

19:04:03 [tantek]

trackbot, end meeting

19:04:03 [trackbot]

Zakim, list attendees

19:04:03 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, aaronpk, Sandro, [IPcaller], Ann, tantek, cwebber2, rhiaro_, Lloyd_Fassett, jessica_lily, tiborKatelbach,

19:04:07 [Zakim]

... wilkie, rhiaro, Wendy, hhalpin

19:04:07 [Zakim]

-Sandro

19:04:09 [Zakim]

-cwebber2

19:04:11 [trackbot]

RRSAgent, please draft minutes

19:04:11 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-minutes.html trackbot

19:04:12 [trackbot]

RRSAgent, bye

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-actions.rdf :

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Tantek, review microformats, due Jan. 14, 2015 [1]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-16-26

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: tantek review microformats due Jan 14, 2015 [2]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-17-11

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: James Snell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015 [3]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-25-23

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: jasnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015 [4]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-25-58

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: jsnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015 [5]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-26-30

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: jsnell to prepare working draft for publication based on http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html by Jan 16, 2105 [6]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-27-52

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: jsnell to reach out to Open Social Foundation participants to invite them to join the W3C Social Web WG [7]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-52-38

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: jsnell to ask OpenSocial folks about W3C archiving their blog posts [8]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T19-00-33

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: harry will ask W3C SysTeam about prospect for archiving OSF blog posts and perhaps other content [9]

19:04:12 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T19-01-26

19:04:14 [Zakim]

-jessica_lily

19:04:16 [tiborKatelbach]

bye

19:04:17 [harry]

Note that there will be a 2-4 day delay between jasnell finishing edits and us publishing on W3C site

19:04:19 [Zakim]

-Arnaud

19:04:25 [Zakim]

-rhiaro

19:04:27 [Zakim]

-aaronpk

19:04:31 [Zakim]

-tiborKatelbach

19:04:33 [Zakim]

-Wendy

19:04:36 [Zakim]

-jasnell

19:04:42 [Zakim]

-Lloyd_Fassett