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16:59:20 Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:59:20 ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
16:59:21 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:59:21 Date: 13 November 2014
16:59:29 zakim, what is the meeting code?
16:59:29 I don't understand your question, paulc.
16:59:37 zakim, what is the code?
16:59:37 the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
16:59:57 HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
17:00:04 +[Microsoft]
17:00:14 zakim, [Microsoft] is me
17:00:14 +paulc; got it
17:00:31 how does it work?
17:00:32 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0007.html
17:02:04 Thanks, ShaneM
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17:02:53 +ShaneM
17:03:04 +[IPcaller]
17:03:30 ScribeNick: ShaneM
17:03:33 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0007.html
17:03:41 +[IPcaller.a]
17:03:51 zakim, who is on the phone?
17:03:51 On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
17:04:05 Chair: paulc
17:04:08 zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
17:04:08 +gregDavis; got it
17:04:26 TOPIC: Action Items
17:04:27 zakim, [IPcaller] is LJWatson
17:04:27 +LJWatson; got it
17:06:52 ACTION-249?
17:06:52 ACTION-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2014-11-06 -- OPEN
17:06:52 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
17:07:14 +??P0
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17:07:27 In Progress - we need an updated due date. Paul will work to get that.
17:07:31 ACTION-250?
17:07:31 ACTION-250 -- Paul Cotton to Prepare cfc concerning moving dom4 to the new process -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:07:31 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/250
17:07:37 Since DOM4 is currently in Last Call, I don't think this CfC is required.
17:07:41 zakim, who's on the phone?
17:07:41 On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, LJWatson, gregDavis, ??P0
17:07:54 zakim, ??P0 is me
17:07:54 +janina; got it
17:08:08
17:08:12 The discussion at the f2f about moving to the new process was not relevant. The document is current in last call.
17:08:43 ... the CfC was to take it straight to PR. We don't need the new process because we were not in CR.
17:09:16 ... we can still potentially skip CR and go to PR assuming the tests work and we can demonstrate interoperability.
17:09:22 ... will report on this to the mailing list.
17:09:24 ACTION-251?
17:09:24 ACTION-251 -- Paul Cotton to Contact public identifiers and form http extension proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the specs -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:09:24 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/251
17:09:41 Re: public identifiers and form http extension
17:10:09 There are two threads on this on the mailing list. Starting at messages 38 and 39 respectively.
17:10:11 See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0038.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0039.html
17:10:38 One of the proponents is withdrawing the public identifier extension spec. Figuring out how to proceed.
17:10:40 ACTION-252?
17:10:40 ACTION-252 -- Paul Cotton to - contact polyglot proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:10:40 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
17:10:53 In progress.
17:11:05 ACTION-253?
17:11:05 ACTION-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
17:11:05 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
17:11:24 Status unknown.
17:11:38 TOPIC: Decisions this week
17:11:44 a) WG Decision: Request transition of Image Description Extension (longdesc) to Proposed Recommendation
17:11:51 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0025.html
17:12:22 transition request has been sent to the director. Waiting to schedule a meeting. Unclear if it will happen before the Thanksgiving break.
17:12:28 b) WG Decision: CfC: publish HTML5 Differences from HTML4 document as a WG Note
17:12:34 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0026.html
17:12:46 +??P8
17:12:51 zakim, ??p8 is me
17:12:51 +tantek; got it
17:12:54 zakim, mute me
17:12:54 tantek should now be muted
17:13:06 Should be published early next week.
17:13:14 TOPIC: Items Closing this week
17:13:16 None.
17:13:20 TOPIC: Task Force Reports
17:13:36 a) Accessibility Task Force
17:13:51 JS: looking at additional issues to take up in next round of HTML development.
17:14:26 ... discussed accesskey today. other topics coming up are from digital publishing and testing communities. use cases and requirements are expected.
17:14:45 ... will have things in hand in time for a Paris meeting should there be one.
17:15:18 ... Also got comments on the MAUG document from the EO group. Media subteam will start meeting again on Monday to process EOs comments.
17:15:28 ... and other public comments we received after last heartbeat.
17:15:45 b) Media Task Force
17:16:05 F2F minutes show that we spent most of Friday morning on EME and MSE.
17:16:18 ... lots of action items raised. We are working through those actions.
17:16:37 ... 3 or 4 of the most substantial bug comments on EME came from the TAG about privacy and security issues.
17:17:03 ... 4 or 5 additional bugs filed. Henri Sivonen followed up with some concrete proposals.
17:17:27 ... before F2F we were at 20 bugs. Now we are at 30. not as bad as it sounds, since some have proposed solutions.
17:17:58 Group is trying to work out its scheduling for the remainder of the year.
17:18:24 A volunteer came forth at the F2F who will help with MSE testing. Trying to help get that person up to speed.
17:18:43 c) Canvas Task Force
17:19:13 PC: Mark Sadeki has file a couple of bugs that describe material that is missing from the CR.
17:19:29 ... discussion about how to make the changes. Task Force continues developing tests and collecting results.
17:19:58 ... Additional action out of the F2F is to figure out how to move Canvas to the new process, since it is already in CR.
17:20:18 +1 on switching Canvas Level 1 to new process (LCCR)
17:20:56 TOPIC: Any other business
17:21:03 http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-html-wg-minutes.html#item52
17:21:03 a) HTML WG F2F, Spring 2015
17:21:15 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014OctDec/0328.html
17:21:43 PC: Working with Telecom University in Paris. Looking at the week after the AC meeting in Paris.
17:21:56 ... up in the air until we get sponsor commitments.
17:21:58 q
17:22:26 q+
17:22:37 ... TPAC at the end of next year is in Japan. Having a meeting in Europe seems like a reasonable pattern since we were in China and then in the US.
17:23:15 Zakim, unmute me
17:23:15 tantek should no longer be muted
17:23:39 tantek: A prefer end of April before the AC/AB meeting rather than after the meeting.
17:24:25 PC: May 1 is a holiday in France - that has an effect on the decision.
17:25:13 ... also academic institutions might have more space for us during their breaks, which might also be why after was being considered.
17:25:37 ... but I will take your position to the group.
17:25:42 tantek: has anyone started a doodle?
17:26:12 PC: No - we wait until we have a firm location so that people have a more concrete thing to vote upon.
17:26:40 ... we are doing it one step at a time. Once we declare a meeting other groups tend to attach themselves to our "train" so we need to take that into consideration as well.
17:27:24 ... but we will go to the working groups with some sort of poll or survey once we have a good idea of the location and potential schedule.
17:27:30 ;<)
17:27:39 zakim, mute me
17:27:39 tantek should now be muted
17:28:00 TOPIC: Next Meeting
17:28:09 Sam will chair the next meeting.
17:28:17 No scribe volunteers.
17:28:28 rrsagent, make minutes
17:28:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
17:28:46 bye!
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17:28:48 -janina
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17:28:51 -ShaneM
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17:29:19 zakim, who is here?
17:29:19 On the phone I see paulc
17:29:20 On IRC I see LJWatson, Zakim, RRSAgent, Titi_Alone, paulc, tantek, ShaneM, SteveF_, wooglae, MarkS, anssik, danbri, mjs, MikeSmith, [Beta], nicolasbadia, rniwa, jgraham, Philip,
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17:29:20 ... cwilso, cabanier, timeless, stryx`, AAA_awright, logbot, heycam|away, xiaoqian, wseltzer, trackbot
17:29:28 zakim, drop paulc
17:29:28 paulc is being disconnected
17:29:30 HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:29:30 Attendees were paulc, ShaneM, gregDavis, LJWatson, janina, tantek
17:29:43 rrsagent, make minutes
17:29:43 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
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