IRC log of webperf on 2014-10-08

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18:58:48 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs world
18:58:48 [Zakim]
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Zakim, this will be WPWG
18:58:51 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 08 October 2014
18:58:59 [plh]
zakim, this will be perf
18:58:59 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, plh
18:59:02 [plh]
zakim, this will be per
18:59:02 [Zakim]
ok, plh; I see RWC_web-per()3:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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RWC_web-per()3:00PM has now started
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+Plh
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hello
19:00:54 [Zakim]
+ +1.617.444.aaaa
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+ +1.310.310.aabb
19:01:18 [plh]
zakim, aaaa is mmccall
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+mmccall; got it
19:01:31 [plh]
zakim, aabb is Michael_Blain
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+Michael_Blain; got it
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+ +1.408.203.aacc
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19:02:02 [plh]
zakim, aacc is Arvind
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+Arvind; got it
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+ +8821aadd
19:02:30 [plh]
zakim, aadd is pan
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+pan; got it
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+ +1.864.907.aaee
19:03:21 [plh]
zakim, aaee is Tobin
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+Tobin; got it
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+??P5
19:03:41 [plh]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2014Oct/0011.html
19:03:51 [plh]
zakim, ??p5 is Tony
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+Tony; got it
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19:04:39 [plh]
Topic: Resource Priorities/Resource Hints next steps
19:05:21 [plh]
plh: what do we do resource priorities?
19:05:46 [plh]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2014Oct/0019.html
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plh: do we want to drop resource priorities in favor of resource hints?
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tobin: at the end, those are just hints
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... nbo objection to drop
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Resolved: drop Resource Priorities
19:08:07 [plh]
Topic: Web Smoothness
19:08:34 [plh]
Topic: Github new repos
19:08:50 [plh]
plh: see emails
19:09:11 [plh]
Topic: "needed for above the fold visuals" indicator in RT API
19:10:22 [plh]
plh: resource timing needs complete tests and make sure we looked at all the issues
19:11:39 [plh]
Arvind: don't think we should add it to the current definition
19:12:22 [plh]
... we can decide to add it later
19:12:28 [plh]
plh: I'll add it as an issue then
19:13:12 [Michael_Blain]
(My colleague can't join, so we can come back to Web Smoothness after this)
19:13:22 [plh]
Arvind: one comment from Boris that needs to be looked
19:13:44 [plh]
Tobin: I'll look at the test suites
19:14:25 [plh]
plh: I'll look to see if next step needs to be LC or if we could move to CR
19:14:47 [plh]
Topic: Web Smoothness
19:15:03 [plh]
MIchael: we have a draft spec
19:15:10 [plh]
... we have a patch in Chrome for it
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... any interest from other browser vendors?
19:15:29 [plh]
Arvind: I like the idea quite a bit
19:15:34 [plh]
... some questions
19:15:38 [plh]
... but good idea
19:16:03 [plh]
... don't see problems to do it in the group
19:16:09 [plh]
Tobin: circulated it here
19:16:16 [plh]
... didn't much feedback yet
19:16:40 [plh]
Michael: when would you get it?
19:16:57 [plh]
Tobin: by Friday hopefully
19:18:26 [plh]
Michael: we'll brng it up at TPAC
19:18:40 [plh]
Topic: Page Visibility 2 update
19:19:45 [plh]
plh: we have open issues: https://github.com/w3c/page-visibility/issues
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Tobin: could look into it
19:20:30 [plh]
Arvind: we haven't touch it lately, but I suspect we have more issues
19:20:37 [plh]
... and whether we we should drop the spec
19:21:05 [Michael_Blain]
I have to drop off, but will follow up on the thread. thank you!
19:21:46 [plh]
plh: we could apply those issues to page visibility 1 if we drop 2
19:21:59 [plh]
Tobin: I'll look into it
19:22:04 [Zakim]
-Michael_Blain
19:22:43 [plh]
pan: was considering implementing PV2 in blink
19:25:05 [plh]
Topic: HAR? need microsecond accuracy for HAR timings
19:26:01 [plh]
Arvind: I can check to see if we can find somebody to work on it
19:26:09 [plh]
Topic: TPAC face-to-face agenda
19:26:26 [plh]
Plh: register today!
19:27:13 [plh]
Plh: I'll setup a github page for that
19:27:24 [plh]
Topic: Beacon
19:27:36 [plh]
Arvind: what's the status?
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... no issues
19:28:03 [plh]
ACTION: plh to move Beacon beyond LC
19:28:04 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-145 - Move beacon beyond lc [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2014-10-15].
19:28:30 [Zakim]
-Tony
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-Arvind
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-mmccall
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-Plh
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-Tobin
19:28:36 [plh]
[adjourned]
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-pan
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RWC_web-per()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Plh, +1.617.444.aaaa, +1.310.310.aabb, mmccall, Michael_Blain, +1.408.203.aacc, Arvind, +8821aadd, pan, +1.864.907.aaee, Tobin, Tony
19:28:44 [plh]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/08-webperf-minutes.html plh
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