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<trackbot> Date: 02 July 2014
<janina> Michael, can you not hear me?
<janina> Argh. Will redial
<janina> Maybe this time ...
<scribe> scribe: jamesn
<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-pf-minutes.html
<MichaelC> Geometry Interfaces Module Level 1
This specification provides basic geometric interfaces to represent points, rectangles, quadrilaterals and transformation matrices that can be used by other modules or specifications. CSS is a language for describing the rendering of structured documents (such as HTML and XML) on screen, on paper, in speech, etc.
JS: we probably don't need to look now
RS: agree
RS: What are your thoughts on epub
rs: we had a meeting with the
digital publication iterest group key people where essentially
the digfital pub group want to make use of the role attribute
so that semantics which are used in digital publication aren't
just for book readers but also for AT
... needed to look at the role attribute definition so we could
always fall back on the host language n ative semantics which
is fine
... we could progressively define mappings to platform a11y
APIs
... if the specific role were not available in the APIs they
would prefer the info to be available to them
... 2nd thing want to take epub strucural semantics and move it
into an aria module
... are going to go back and see who will be facilitator etc
and will work these issues out.
... also talked breifly on graphicvs
... digital books are making use of many w3c open standards.
they want to take the info and make it accessible
... we are waiting to hear in 2 weeks. was an encouraging
update
... we don't want the ARIA group to be a bottleneck
js: wanted to note that they already have a lot of these semantics
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.idpf.org/epub/vocab/structure/
js: we will need to eventually answer whether aria is only for AT or whether we will eventually get to the point where mainstream user agents use it
rs: am writing a paper for a
telecom conference. we are starting to turn a corner and mobile
is one
... movbile devices are integrating AT and voice for mainstream
uses
... the overlap of the need for sermantics. will need to see a
lot of theings which we thought were specifric to a11y have
mainstream uses
... also congitive and mainstream uses of a11y
... if you look at 401k plans in the us. will be cashflow
negative by xxxx. will be moving money to IRAs. By 2016 300
billion $ into IRAs. IRAs are 5.3 trillion $. This group of
aging people will be spenders rather than savers.
... a huge business opportunity
JS: WAI 2020 is being scoped narrowly
rs: trying to get over getting WCAG stuff into compliance criteria. Need to not just think about WCAG but more need to think about everything else WAI is doing.
<MichaelC> Acknowledgement of PFWG comments on User Interface Security Directives for Content Security Policy
MC: the comments were about must statements in informative sections which were fixed
"hese kinds of
questions were ones WebAppSec originally brought to the WAI as subject
matter experts, but we haven't been able to obtain any clarification as to
how specifically they change the DOM event model."
mc: I don't know if there was a
further attempt to resolve those issues after the initial
thread
... his answer was we think it will work but not really
sure
... what we are finding is a spec qaulity issue which is
orthogonal to our obliogations but impacts our ability to
review
... we no longer have the QA activity
... by the way I started drafting a set of requirements to
drafting good introductions to specs
<scribe> ACTION: cooper to respond to https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/wai-liaison/2014Jun/0002.html and thank for response and state that if we fail to respond then please make sure to "be noisy" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/02-pf-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1477 - Respond to https://lists.w3.org/archives/member/wai-liaison/2014jun/0002.html and thank for response and state that if we fail to respond then please make sure to "be noisy" [on Michael Cooper - due 2014-07-09].
MC: they are requesting people to
use the conference hotel
... requesting to register ASAP
<MichaelC> Linked Building Data CG
This group brings together experts in the area of building information modelling (BIM) and Web of Data technologies to define existing and future use cases and requirements for linked data based applications across the life cycle of buildings.
JN: suggestion. Avoid looking at community groups until they have been started for 3 months
RESOLUTION: will only look at community groups once they have been started for 3 months