W3C

Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
07 May 2014

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Attendees

Present
Michael_Cooper, Janina_Sajka, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Shane_McCarron, +1.215.518.aaaa, Andrew_Larkin, John_Foliot
Regrets
Chair
Janina Sajka
Scribe
ShaneM

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 07 May 2014

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<scribe> ScribeNick: ShaneM

New Last Calls

<MichaelC> DOM Parsing and Serialization

Not a PF concern.

<MichaelC> CSS Custom Properties for Cascading Variables Module Level 1

Should review just to see if there is anything important for PF.

<MichaelC> ACTION: shane to review CSS Custom Properties for Cascading Variables Module Level 1 http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-css-variables-1-20140506/ - due 21 May [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/05/07-pf-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1436 - Review css custom properties for cascading variables module level 1 http://www.w3.org/tr/2014/wd-css-variables-1-20140506/ [on Shane McCarron - due 2014-05-21].

<MichaelC> TTML Text and Image Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.0

Discussion about captioning and whether graphical captions are useful.

Standardizing delivery of graphical captions is a good idea, but graphical captions themselves are problematic

JF: Maybe we should acknowledge the work but point out that it does not solve all of the problem.

<MichaelC> ACTION: foliot to discuss with Sean Hayes and David Singer potential a11y issues on TTML-IMSC1 http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/05/07-pf-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1437 - Discuss with sean hayes and david singer potential a11y issues on ttml-imsc1 http://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1/ [on John Foliot - due 2014-05-14].

take up item 6

<MichaelC> Web Payments Charter Development CG

<MichaelC> Voting system CG

take up item 4

<MichaelC> close action-1410

<trackbot> Closed action-1410.

take up item 9

Cynthia reviewed the spec. It is an improvement over CSS positioning. Things are closer together in the DOM.

scribe: there is a sentence about A11Y about screen reader order and meaningful order. Should bring it in line with WCAG.

It does not deal with taborder - some things can change the order of the document.

two possible corrections. Strengthen the language about order and taborder. And maybe add some WCAG techniques.

<jamesn> this one? http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/failures.html#F1

Maybe we can add something about flexbox to F1 or add another technique that has flexbox in the title?

Cyns: We should respond with a PF comment.

No objections.

Cyns: I would like to make an edit to the comments before Michael sends it to the group.

RESOLUTION: Forward the edited flexbox comments Cynthia wrote as PF comments on the specification.

take up item 2

RESOLUTION: Publish the 30 April minutes to the public mailing list.

take up item 7

Last week we discussed this. The CG supported our proposal. Janina wrote up the scheme and circulated it.

A note that if there are normative requirements in a document, then it should be a specification, not a guide.

<MaryJo> +1

<jamesn> +1

<JF> +1

Suggestion that we drop the word entirely (no "guide" nor "specification").

richardschwerdtfeger: it would be nice if the target stopped moving

We are not talking about changing the content - just the names

janina: we seem to have a problem explaining to people that core needs to be implemented in addition to the language specific requirements. Is there a way to incorporate this into the name?

richardschwerdtfeger: it will be in the spec and will be clear. It does not need to be in the title.

Cyns: We should take "ARIA" out of the name of Core
... it would be "Core Accessibility API Mappings"
... others would be "HTML Accessibility API Mappings" etc.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: foliot to discuss with Sean Hayes and David Singer potential a11y issues on TTML-IMSC1 http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/05/07-pf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: shane to review CSS Custom Properties for Cascading Variables Module Level 1 http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-css-variables-1-20140506/ - due 21 May [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/05/07-pf-minutes.html#action01]
 
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