IRC log of html-a11y on 2014-04-28

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Zakim, this will be 2119

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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

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Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

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Date: 28 April 2014

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zakim, agenda?

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I see nothing on the agenda

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Meeting: Canvas Accessibility Sub-Group Sub-Group

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Chair: Mark Sadecki

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agenda+ Final Review of Last Call Draft [4]

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agenda+ Implementations

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agenda+ Testing

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agenda+ Next Meeting

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WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has now started

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+??P0

21:57:41 [janina]

zakim, ??P0 is me

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+janina; got it

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+MarkS

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+[Microsoft]

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zakim, microsoft has me

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+jaymunro; got it

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+cabanier

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agenda?

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scribe: MarkS

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zakim, take up next item

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agendum 1. "Final Review of Last Call Draft" taken up [from 4]

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JM: I incorporated all changes we've agreed on.

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...with the exception of the paragraph we had for the SoTD

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...I have an email out to Robin and Sam regarding keeping that in this spec only. The SoTD has reusable components, I want to make sure this change only happens in Canvas and doesn't propagate to other HTML specs

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, IPCaller is Rich

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+Rich; got it

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we could use this time to review that text

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JM: also waiting to hear back on other items related to going back to LC

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This draft incorporates changes made by the Canvas Accessibility Sub-Group [1]

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(minutes[2]) in response to comments from the HTML Accessibility Task Force [3]

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and adds support for visual focus indicators (drawFocusIfNeeded()[4]) and a

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method for informing accessibility APIs of the location of focusable regions

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(Hit Regions[5]). These features were carefully designed to be forward

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compatible with Canvas 2D Context, Level 2 [6].

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RS: we might not want to limit it to focusable regions

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JS: i think notifying is more common

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RS: we should be consistent with drawFocusRing

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Optionally, inform the user that the focus is at the location given by the intended path. User agents may wait until the next time the event loop reaches its "update the rendering" step to optionally inform the user.

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RS: updating location information in Accessibility APIs

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Updating the accessibility API of the location of fallback elements that representative of the corresponding hit region location.

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s/that/that are

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MS: I will re-wordsmith and send Jay the edits so we can get it back to the the WG

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zakim, take up next item

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agendum 2. "Implementations" taken up [from MarkS]

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MS: Rik has a patch pending with support for Canvas Level 1

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RC: It's in code review now.

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MS: Once we get a new draft published for Last Call, I will contact dominic to get feedback and implementation timelines

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http://status.modern.ie/

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RS: Be great to get IE

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zakim, take up next item

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agendum 3. "Testing" taken up [from MarkS]

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MS: Test results are currently showing drawFocusIf

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Needed tests as failing, probably because they are behind a flag

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RC: I will start the process for getting the feature to ship

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https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/2dcontext/drawing-paths-to-the-canvas

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https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/2dcontext/hit-regions

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zakim, take up next item

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agendum 4. "Next Meeting" taken up [from MarkS]

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MS: should we continue to meet weekly? Should we start work on L2? Jay are L1 and L2 synced?

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JM: I took a look at that lately and there has been some diversion. They have been cherry picking changes from WHAT WG and those changes are overwritten some of the changes I made to L2.

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...have been doing some research into the history of the cherry picking. We'll have to find a way to keep our changes.

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JS: we can do that. we just have to figure out if the changes are intentional or just an oversight.

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JM: I will follow up with editors to find out what the process is for applying changes from WHAT WG

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MS: I'm thinking that recurring items moving forward will be Implementations and testing and reviewing cherry picking for accessibility related items, suggest moving to every other week for this meeting?

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WFM

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RS: Is anyone going to talk to WCAG for techniques?

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JS: I could probably do that. Probably talk to James Nurthen about that.

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-Rich

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-cabanier

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-MarkS

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-[Microsoft]

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-janina

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WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has ended

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Attendees were janina, MarkS, jaymunro, cabanier, Rich

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/28-html-a11y-minutes.html MarkS

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