IRC log of html-media on 2014-01-07

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be 63342
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ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
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Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 07 January 2014
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HTML_WG()11:00AM has now started
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+[Microsoft]
16:00:21 [paulc]
zakim, [Microsoft] is me.
16:00:21 [Zakim]
+paulc; got it
16:00:38 [paulc]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Jan/0001.html
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zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:40 [Zakim]
On the phone I see paulc
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+[Microsoft]
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+pladd
16:02:08 [paulc]
Happy New Year.
16:02:19 [johnsim]
zakim, who is on the phone
16:02:19 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the phone', johnsim
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+davide
16:02:30 [johnsim]
zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:30 [Zakim]
On the phone I see paulc, [Microsoft], pladd, davide
16:02:41 [johnsim]
zakim, [Microsoft] is me
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+johnsim; got it
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+[Microsoft]
16:02:53 [adrianba]
zakim, [Microsoft] is me
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+adrianba; got it
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+pal
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+ddorwin
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+markw
16:04:02 [paulc]
Agneda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Jan/0001.html
16:04:14 [paulc]
zakim, who is on the phone?
16:04:14 [Zakim]
On the phone I see paulc, johnsim, pladd, davide, adrianba, pal, ddorwin, markw
16:04:21 [johnsim]
Topic: Roll call
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Topic: Review of action items and issues
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https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/
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Open actions: https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/open
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q+
16:05:29 [johnsim]
paulc: several of these are old enough that they are probably moot, 48, 51 and 53
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ack adrian
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adrianba: three actions still relevant, may need new due dates, 17199 resolved this morning
16:06:42 [paulc]
ACTIION-53 can be closed. https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/53
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Topic: Status of MSE
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Transition request; (Member only): https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2013OctDec/0304.html
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paulc: not much to report here. transition call with director on Thursday the 19th.
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+BobLund
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paulc: publication is pending
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+ +1.720.897.aaaa
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paulc: no new bugs on MSE
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zakim, aaaa is glenn
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+glenn; got it
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Topic: EME
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last updated today: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
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Changelog is here https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/log
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paulc: looked yesterday 18 bugs open, 17 today so at least one bug processed, but not much progress since last meeting December 17th
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EME bugs open: http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo
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q+
16:09:58 [ddorwin]
actually 2 processed because 1 was also opened.
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s/1 was also/1 more was also/
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16:12:13 [paulc]
The new bugs include at least the following: 24025, 24027, 24082, 24117, 24213, and 24216.
16:12:44 [paulc]
https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/61
16:13:05 [paulc]
Wendy responded this morning saying she did NOT have anyone to nominate to do security review.
16:13:29 [paulc]
No progress on https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/62
16:13:54 [johnsim]
Topic: EME bugs for discussion
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q+
16:14:32 [paulc]
EME bugs open: http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo
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ack adrian
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paulc: eme editors have any items they want to discuss today?
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adrianba: talk to the ones i checked in this morning
16:15:10 [johnsim]
adrianba: added an initial draft of the load session method, 23955
16:15:19 [paulc]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23955
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Marked as RESOLVED FIXED today.
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See https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23955#c6
16:16:32 [paulc]
David's question: Can the same session (ID) be loaded multiple times without closing the previous MediaKeySession? has not been answered.
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adrianba: 17199
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199
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See https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199#c20
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Adding KeyRelease to draft allowed the removal of Section 5.
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adrianba: bug about key release - key release is now possible without explicit support
16:18:32 [paulc]
Topic: New EME bugs
16:18:33 [paulc]
The new bugs include at least the following: 24025, 24027, 24082, 24117, 24213, and 24216.
16:18:55 [ddorwin]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24213
16:19:20 [johnsim]
ddorwin: create session had a type attribute, added that to the needkey event, but that conflicts with default type for events
16:20:22 [paulc]
Proposal: use mimeType see https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24213#c1
16:20:23 [johnsim]
paulc: objection to mimetype
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+[Microsoft]
16:20:35 [paulc]
What about contentType?
16:20:41 [paulc]
What about mediaType?
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16:21:00 [paulc]
zakim, who is on the phone?
16:21:00 [Zakim]
On the phone I see paulc, johnsim, pladd, davide, adrianba, pal, ddorwin, markw, BobLund, glenn, [Microsoft]
16:21:13 [paulc]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/07-html-media-minutes.html paulc
16:21:13 [jdsmith]
jdsmith
16:21:27 [paulc]
zakim, [Microsoft] is jdsmith
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+jdsmith; got it
16:22:28 [paulc]
Proposal: Use contentType and we rename in all three places
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adrianba: summary: proposing we use "content type" and rename in all three places
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q+
16:23:34 [paulc]
ack markw
16:24:46 [johnsim]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24117
16:24:48 [ddorwin]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24117
16:25:49 [johnsim]
ddorwin: renaming - keys and setMediaKeys inconsistent
16:25:52 [paulc]
Proposal: We should either rename the attribute to "mediaKeys" or rename the method to "setKeys()"
16:27:08 [johnsim]
jdsmith: either way a name change, maybe prefer the explicit change and change to mediakeys
16:27:19 [johnsim]
jdsmith: may be another type of keys in the future
16:27:36 [ddorwin]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24216
16:30:27 [johnsim]
ddorwin: multiple issues with setmediakeys documented in this bug
16:31:03 [johnsim]
jdsmith: like time to digest and review
16:31:05 [paulc]
Suggest: Review before next week's meeting
16:31:26 [johnsim]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24082
16:31:32 [johnsim]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24025
16:32:05 [johnsim]
ddorwin: extensibility points
16:32:08 [paulc]
We probably need Joe Steele for this discussion.
16:32:24 [adrianba]
i think last time we said that we needed to record use cases
16:33:28 [adrianba]
we can probably talk about 18515 next week too
16:33:43 [johnsim]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515
16:33:48 [adrianba]
this is action-51
16:34:15 [paulc]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515#c15
16:34:48 [paulc]
See https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/51
16:35:05 [adrianba]
ACTION-51 due in 1 week
16:35:05 [trackbot]
Set ACTION-51 Write a proposal for bug 18515 due date to 2014-01-14.
16:35:32 [adrianba]
ACTION-48 due in 2 weeks
16:35:32 [trackbot]
Set ACTION-48 Draft a proposal for bug 17673 due date to 2014-01-21.
16:35:43 [paulc]
ACTION-48?
16:35:43 [trackbot]
ACTION-48 -- Adrian Bateman to Draft a proposal for bug 17673 -- due 2014-01-21 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/48
16:35:57 [paulc]
Adrian needs to work with David Singer on this item.
16:36:31 [paulc]
rrsagent, generate the minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/07-html-media-minutes.html paulc
16:36:48 [paulc]
Happy New Year. Stay warm.
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-adrianba
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-johnsim
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-pladd
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-davide
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-jdsmith
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-ddorwin
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-BobLund
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-glenn
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-pal
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-paulc
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-markw
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HTML_WG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were paulc, pladd, davide, johnsim, adrianba, pal, ddorwin, markw, BobLund, +1.720.897.aaaa, glenn, jdsmith
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