IRC log of pf on 2014-01-06

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RRSAgent, make logs member
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Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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ok, trackbot, I see WAI_PFWG(ARIA)10:00AM already started
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Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 06 January 2014
14:57:52 [richardschwerdtfeger]
chair: Rich
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meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus
14:58:51 [richardschwerdtfeger]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Jan/0000.html
14:59:07 [richardschwerdtfeger]
Happy New Year
14:59:21 [Zakim]
+??P1
14:59:58 [janina]
zakim, ??P1 is me
14:59:59 [Zakim]
+janina; got it
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+??P14
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+James_Craig
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zakim, ??p14 is Michael_Cooper
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+Michael_Cooper; got it
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-James_Craig
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+[GVoice]
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zakim GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:10:16 [clown]
zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:10:16 [Zakim]
sorry, clown, I do not see a party named 'Joseph_Scheuhammer'
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+Matt_King
15:11:26 [clown]
zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:11:26 [Zakim]
sorry, clown, I do not see a party named 'Joseph_Scheuhammer'
15:11:37 [clown]
zakim, who's here?
15:11:37 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Rich_Schwerdtfeger, janina, Michael_Cooper, [GVoice], Matt_King
15:11:39 [Zakim]
On IRC I see clown, jcraig, Suzanne, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, richardschwerdtfeger, asurkov, scott_gonzalez, janina, slightlyoff, trackbot
15:11:53 [MichaelC]
zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:11:53 [Zakim]
+Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
15:11:54 [clown]
zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:11:55 [Zakim]
sorry, clown, I do not recognize a party named 'GVoice'
15:12:04 [clown]
zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:12:04 [Zakim]
ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
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scribenick: clown
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15:12:20 [richardschwerdtfeger]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Jan/0000.html
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Topic: advancing to PR
15:12:59 [clown]
RS: the only thing that is keeping us from PR is the menu events.
15:13:11 [MichaelC]
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RS: James reported that generating the events in Safari may take longer.
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RS: we might need to make this a MAY
15:14:16 [clown]
JS: it is a SHOULD. The MUST comes in *if* the browser uses the events. Then they *MUST* be as follows.
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Topic: Face to Face
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Janina: Can you come Matt?
15:15:00 [clown]
MK: No, I cannot make it. WIll there be a network participation?
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Janina: We will have something set up.
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Janina: and, we should also try to have some social event.
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Janina: and if there is another topic you want to discuss, pleas bring it up so we can add it to the agenda.
15:16:23 [MichaelC]
-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/meetings/2014-01-ftf PF FtF Jan 2014
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RS: let's not discuss ARIA 1.1 issues. We don't have a quorum.
15:17:58 [clown]
Various: discussion of who may come to the face-to-face and who may not.
15:18:19 [richardschwerdtfeger]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/1
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RS: we should go through open issues and actions for ARIA 1.0
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Topic: action 358
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action-358?
15:18:49 [trackbot]
action-358 -- Michael Cooper to - investigate modification of schema to address default values for particular roles -- due 2012-04-30 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/358
15:19:03 [clown]
MC: I don't think this is critical for going to REC.
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MC: I thought Shane has an action to work on this.
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RS: Do we need for ARIA 1.0 for going to rec?
15:19:36 [clown]
MC: No, I don't think so.
15:19:56 [clown]
MC: I just need the proper DTD lingo for this.
15:20:05 [clown]
MC: Let's move it to 1.1.
15:20:36 [clown]
MC: next action 601 is shane's action; so these are linked. Move them both.
15:20:41 [Zakim]
+Jon_Gunderson
15:20:59 [JonGund]
It is cold here
15:22:59 [clown]
Topic: action-691
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action-691?
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action-691 -- Michael Cooper to Propose an approach for adding ARIA landmarks to the specs and work with editors -- due 2012-11-23 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/691
15:23:14 [clown]
MC: Next actions are on me.
15:23:29 [clown]
MC: It's a nice to have, not a must, but it would be really good to do.
15:23:35 [clown]
RS: Let's give it a date then.
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MC: I should tackle by 22 January.
15:24:06 [clown]
JS: All the documents?
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MC: Yes, I'll try to do it in the generator.
15:24:25 [clown]
Topic: FIx up generation of tables.
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MC: I think those three actions should have a due date of 22 Jan.
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MC: actions 1011, 1062, 1065
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Topic: Action-1151
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action-1151?
15:25:23 [trackbot]
action-1151 -- Michael Cooper to Create a flowchart or process diagram of the ARIA accessible name computation -- due 2013-01-28 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1151
15:25:41 [clown]
MC: I don't think it's critical, but it is challenging.
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MC: I think it's better to focus this on 1.1.
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RS: Yes, that can wait. It would nice to have.
15:26:52 [clown]
s/would nice to/would be nice to/
15:29:27 [clown]
JS: It would nice, if the computattion is language specific (Html, SVG), then generate the flow chart as we change the spec.
15:29:45 [clown]
MC: we do want this to be backward compatibility.
15:30:06 [clown]
RS: But, we could say that the 1.0 algorithm is for, say, html 4.
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RS: that's bascially all of the actions/issues.
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15:31:09 [clown]
RS: anything for the UAIG?
15:31:19 [clown]
JS: Let's look at the issue/actions.
15:31:23 [clown]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
15:31:29 [clown]
JS: There are zero.
15:32:11 [clown]
MC: Yes, we tried to close all the UAIG issue/actions during the last weeks before the break.
15:32:34 [clown]
s/computattion/computation/
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RS: we will meet next week.
15:37:31 [clown]
RS: there is Martin Luther KIng day here in the states.
15:37:38 [clown]
RS: But I will be working.
15:37:42 [Zakim]
-Rich_Schwerdtfeger
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-janina
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JS: It isn'at a holiday here in Canada.
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-Jon_Gunderson
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-Matt_King
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-Michael_Cooper
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:38:37 [clown]
tracbot, make minutes public
15:38:50 [trackbot]
Sorry, clown, I don't understand 'trackbot, make minutes public'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
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15:41:10 [trackbot]
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15:42:20 [clown]
zakim, bye
15:42:20 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Rich_Schwerdtfeger, janina, James_Craig, Michael_Cooper, Matt_King, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Jon_Gunderson
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:43:28 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:44:09 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:44:34 [clown]
s/isn'at a holiday/isn't a holiday/
15:44:39 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:49:35 [clown]
RRSAgent: please part
15:49:35 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items