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15:01:45 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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15:01:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:01:46 <trackbot> Date: 07 November 2013
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15:01:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:01:51 <trackbot> Date: 07 November 2013
15:02:46 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here?
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15:02:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
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15:02:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see fadmaa, Zakim, RRSAgent, HadleyBeeman, gatemezi, bhyland, TallTed, trackbot, sandro
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15:03:22 <HadleyBeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131107
15:03:29 <HadleyBeeman> scribe: fadmaa
(Scribe set to Fadi Maali)
15:03:53 <HadleyBeeman> proposed: accept minutes from previous meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-10-31
PROPOSED: accept minutes from previous meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-10-31 ←
15:06:39 <gatemezi> +1 , thx Sandro
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 , thx Sandro ←
15:06:43 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:07:08 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, this is gld
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15:07:08 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, this was already T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM
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15:07:08 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the phone?
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15:07:09 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM
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15:07:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
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15:07:27 <sandro> +Sandro
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15:07:30 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the phone?
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15:07:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
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15:08:30 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Data Cube
15:08:53 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: issue-69 there was an error in one of the queries
Dave Reynolds: ISSUE-69 there was an error in one of the queries ←
15:09:08 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
15:09:08 <Zakim> sorry, fadmaa, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, fadmaa, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
15:10:07 <TallTed> Zakim, code?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, code? ←
15:10:07 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), TallTed ←
15:10:22 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: in practice this only affects dataset that has multiple cubes
Dave Reynolds: in practice this only affects dataset that has multiple cubes ←
15:10:42 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: this doesn't affect all the report we have so far
Dave Reynolds: this doesn't affect all the report we have so far ←
15:11:06 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I proposed to the mailing list to accept this as editorial
Dave Reynolds: I proposed to the mailing list to accept this as editorial ←
15:11:24 <fadmaa> ... and propose to close issue 69
... and propose to close ISSUE-69 ←
15:11:30 <fadmaa> issue-69?
15:11:30 <trackbot> issue-69 -- Typo in IC-8 rule -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-69 -- Typo in IC-8 rule -- raised ←
15:11:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/69
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/69 ←
15:12:01 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: close issue 69 as editorial fix
PROPOSED: close ISSUE-69 as editorial fix ←
15:12:18 <DaveReynolds> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html
Dave Reynolds: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html ←
15:12:25 <sandro> PROPOSED: Close issue-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html ←
15:12:29 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:12:31 <fadmaa> +1
+1 ←
15:12:32 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
15:12:32 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
15:12:37 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
15:12:42 <sandro> RESOLVED: Close issue-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html ←
15:12:46 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:13:06 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations
Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations ←
15:13:38 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I have had a good response so far regarding implementation report on Data Cube as documented at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations
Dave Reynolds: I have had a good response so far regarding implementation report on Data Cube as documented at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations ←
15:13:59 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we now have 5 full validated implementation report
Dave Reynolds: we now have 5 full validated implementation report ←
15:15:07 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: at the bottom of the page we tracked "additional properties" that are not tested in the integrity checks
Dave Reynolds: at the bottom of the page we tracked "additional properties" that are not tested in the integrity checks ←
15:15:32 <fadmaa> ... all are used so far apart from HierarchicalCodeList
... all are used so far apart from HierarchicalCodeList ←
15:16:21 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: it was requested by some people but I haven't got any implementation report that use them
Dave Reynolds: it was requested by some people but I haven't got any implementation report that use them ←
15:17:10 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: It is not part of the formal exit criteria to use each property
Dave Reynolds: It is not part of the formal exit criteria to use each property ←
15:17:32 <fadmaa> ... but it would be worrisome not to have any implementation that use them
... but it would be worrisome not to have any implementation that use them ←
15:17:43 <HadleyBeeman> … and Ralph/Thomas asked us to keep track of their use, in the transition meeting to CR
Hadley Beeman: … and Ralph/Thomas asked us to keep track of their use, in the transition meeting to CR ←
15:19:03 <fadmaa> sandro: from a user perspective, it'd be helpful to have a note stating that this property is rarely used
Sandro Hawke: from a user perspective, it'd be helpful to have a note stating that this property is rarely used ←
15:19:09 <fadmaa> ... as people usually use SKOS
... as people usually use SKOS ←
15:19:43 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#schemes-hierarchy-nonskos
Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#schemes-hierarchy-nonskos ←
15:20:01 <DaveReynolds> In the case where a code list is already available as a SKOS concept scheme or collection, or could reasonable me made so, then those should be used directly. qb:HierarchicalCodeList is provided for cases where the terms are not available as SKOS but are available in some other RDF representation suitable for reuse.
Dave Reynolds: In the case where a code list is already available as a SKOS concept scheme or collection, or could reasonable me made so, then those should be used directly. qb:HierarchicalCodeList is provided for cases where the terms are not available as SKOS but are available in some other RDF representation suitable for reuse. ←
15:21:16 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pointer?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, pointer? ←
15:21:16 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, HadleyBeeman.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, HadleyBeeman. ←
15:21:18 <gatemezi> q+
Ghislain Atemezing: q+ ←
15:21:20 <HadleyBeeman> trackbot, pointer?
Hadley Beeman: trackbot, pointer? ←
15:21:20 <trackbot> Sorry, HadleyBeeman, I don't understand 'trackbot, pointer?'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
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15:21:30 <HadleyBeeman> RRSagent, pointer?
Hadley Beeman: RRSagent, pointer? ←
15:21:30 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2013/11/07-gld-irc#T15-21-30
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2013/11/07-gld-irc#T15-21-30 ←
15:21:53 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we don't need to discuss this more now but I wanted to flag it
Dave Reynolds: we don't need to discuss this more now but I wanted to flag it ←
15:22:08 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we can decide later on it in case we don't get any implementation report
Dave Reynolds: we can decide later on it in case we don't get any implementation report ←
15:22:51 <fadmaa> gatemezi: can different hierarchies be mapped to a SKOS one?
Ghislain Atemezing: can different hierarchies be mapped to a SKOS one? ←
15:23:01 <fadmaa> ... e.g. geographic
... e.g. geographic ←
15:23:40 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: yes possible but skos narrower and broader are not always enough to cover all hierarchical relation such as overlap,
Dave Reynolds: yes possible but skos narrower and broader are not always enough to cover all hierarchical relation such as overlap, ←
15:24:30 <fadmaa> * sorry meant scribe
* sorry meant scribe ←
15:25:33 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open ←
15:25:51 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: let's review open actions regarding Data Cube
Hadley Beeman: let's review open actions regarding Data Cube ←
15:26:12 <fadmaa> ... we have no open issues but a couple of actions
... we have no open issues but a couple of actions ←
15:26:24 <sandro> close action-102
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-102 ←
15:26:25 <trackbot> Closed action-102.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-102. ←
15:26:45 <sandro> close action-142
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-142 ←
15:26:45 <trackbot> Closed action-142.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-142. ←
15:27:03 <sandro> close action-151
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-151 ←
15:27:03 <trackbot> Closed action-151.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-151. ←
15:27:08 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: actions 102, 142, 151 are all done and can be colsed
Hadley Beeman: actions 102, 142, 151 are all done and can be closed ←
15:27:26 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Org Vocabulary
15:27:51 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I had a good response back during the last week
Dave Reynolds: I had a good response back during the last week ←
15:27:55 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations
Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations ←
15:27:57 <HadleyBeeman> s/colsed/closed
15:27:59 <fadmaa> ... regarding implementation reports
... regarding implementation reports ←
15:28:05 <gatemezi> Congrats for all the feedback on ORG
Ghislain Atemezing: Congrats for all the feedback on ORG ←
15:28:31 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I kept track of which terms are used by whom at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations
Dave Reynolds: I kept track of which terms are used by whom at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations ←
15:29:01 <fadmaa> ... some of them are planned to be used in the future
... some of them are planned to be used in the future ←
15:29:33 <fadmaa> ... we now have enough implementation reports
... we now have enough implementation reports ←
15:29:58 <fadmaa> ... however we don't have every term used by two implementations
... however we don't have every term used by two implementations ←
15:30:07 <fadmaa> ... example subOrganizationOf
... example subOrganizationOf ←
15:31:10 <fadmaa> ... what would be better in such case: keeping such terms and going to PR without implementation evidence or taking them out
... what would be better in such case: keeping such terms and going to PR without implementation evidence or taking them out ←
15:31:26 <fadmaa> sandro: we need to discuss that
Sandro Hawke: we need to discuss that ←
15:31:41 <fadmaa> sandro: this seems more for querying than for publishing for me
Sandro Hawke: the term seems more for querying than for publishing for me ←
15:31:50 <fadmaa> s/this/the term/
15:32:21 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: yes. for this particular term we can argue it is used indirectly
Dave Reynolds: yes. for this particular term we can argue it is used indirectly ←
15:32:29 <fadmaa> ... not materialized
... not materialized ←
15:32:30 <TallTed> +1 for that argument
Ted Thibodeau: +1 for that argument ←
15:33:05 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: this leaves the term OrganizationalCollaboration
Dave Reynolds: this leaves the term OrganizationalCollaboration ←
15:33:29 <fadmaa> ... three groups said they plan to use
... three groups said they plan to use ←
15:33:35 <fadmaa> ... but not currently
... but not currently ←
15:35:55 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: do we still need to re-asses whether we change ORG to a note?
Hadley Beeman: do we still need to re-asses whether we change ORG to a note? ←
15:36:00 <fadmaa> sandro: no
Sandro Hawke: no ←
15:36:02 <HadleyBeeman> actions : http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open
Hadley Beeman: actions : http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open ←
15:36:04 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: no
Dave Reynolds: no ←
15:36:40 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Best Practices
15:37:02 <fadmaa> gatemezi: I sent an email detailing some closed issues
Ghislain Atemezing: I sent an email detailing some closed issues ←
15:37:10 <sandro> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html
Sandro Hawke: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html ←
15:37:41 <fadmaa> gatemezi: we added some description to the open data lifecycle
Ghislain Atemezing: we added some description to the open data lifecycle ←
15:37:44 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0017.html
Hadley Beeman: gatemezi's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0017.html ←
15:38:19 <fadmaa> gatemezi: not sure what to add to section 4 on using SKOS
Ghislain Atemezing: not sure what to add to section 4 on using SKOS ←
15:38:20 <sandro> q+ about respec and references
Sandro Hawke: q+ about respec and references ←
15:38:26 <fadmaa> ... need some input on this
... need some input on this ←
15:38:27 <sandro> q+ to talk about respec and references
Sandro Hawke: q+ to talk about respec and references ←
15:38:59 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: is the problem with the content or with the inclusion of that section in the first place?
Hadley Beeman: is the problem with the content or with the inclusion of that section in the first place? ←
15:39:14 <fadmaa> gatemezi: mainly with the content
Ghislain Atemezing: mainly with the content ←
15:39:47 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: why SKOS and not other vocabularies?
Hadley Beeman: why SKOS and not other vocabularies? ←
15:40:10 <sandro> q+ to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?
Sandro Hawke: q+ to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star? ←
15:40:42 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: I'll leave it to the editors to decide as we have no input or suggestions currently from teh WG
Hadley Beeman: I'll leave it to the editors to decide as we have no input or suggestions currently from the WG ←
15:40:47 <fadmaa> s/teh/the/
15:40:59 <DaveReynolds> Doesn't make much sense to me to have a section on how to use SKOS, that's a job for the SKOS documents. I would suggest dropping or just pointing out the relevance of skos and pointing to the docs.
Dave Reynolds: Doesn't make much sense to me to have a section on how to use SKOS, that's a job for the SKOS documents. I would suggest dropping or just pointing out the relevance of skos and pointing to the docs. ←
15:42:24 <fadmaa> +1 I also find it confusing
+1 I also find it confusing ←
15:42:30 <DaveReynolds> +1 to Sandro, keep "5 star" for linked data
Dave Reynolds: +1 to Sandro, keep "5 star" for linked data ←
15:42:31 <fadmaa> especially the fifth star
especially the fifth star ←
15:42:32 <HadleyBeeman> +1 me too
Hadley Beeman: +1 me too ←
15:44:08 <fadmaa> sandro: this seems to consider non-linkeddata vocabulary
Sandro Hawke: this seems to consider non-linkeddata vocabulary ←
15:44:20 <fadmaa> ... especially the first three stars
... especially the first three stars ←
15:44:47 <fadmaa> ... having a mini checklist looks better though the next section seems to have that
... having a mini checklist looks better though the next section seems to have that ←
15:45:26 <fadmaa> gatemezi: we can take the stars off and change the style
Ghislain Atemezing: we can take the stars off and change the style ←
15:45:31 <HadleyBeeman> ack sandro
Hadley Beeman: ack sandro ←
15:45:31 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to talk about respec and references and to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, you wanted to talk about respec and references and to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star? ←
15:46:22 <HadleyBeeman> email exchange re respec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0003.html
Hadley Beeman: email exchange re respec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0003.html ←
15:46:29 <fadmaa> sandro: with the new respec we use only one global bibliography
Sandro Hawke: with the new respec we use only one global bibliography ←
15:46:49 <fadmaa> ... the BP document seems to still use the old version of respec
... the BP document seems to still use the old version of respec ←
15:47:23 <sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0005.html
Sandro Hawke: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0005.html ←
15:47:36 <sandro> (explanation of shared biblio)
Sandro Hawke: (explanation of shared biblio) ←
15:47:37 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6
Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6 ←
15:47:44 <sandro> issue-6?
15:47:44 <trackbot> issue-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised ←
15:47:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6 ←
15:48:03 <fadmaa> q+
q+ ←
15:48:20 <HadleyBeeman> ack fadmaa
Hadley Beeman: ack fadmaa ←
15:49:07 <fadmaa> gatemezi: issue still open
Ghislain Atemezing: issue still open ←
15:50:29 <sandro> close action-86
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-86 ←
15:50:29 <trackbot> Closed action-86.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-86. ←
15:50:42 <sandro> close action-87
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-87 ←
15:50:42 <trackbot> Closed action-87.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-87. ←
15:50:46 <sandro> close action-88
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-88 ←
15:50:46 <trackbot> Closed action-88.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-88. ←
15:50:55 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: we just discussed action 86 it can be closed
Hadley Beeman: we just discussed ACTION-86 it can be closed ←
15:51:01 <sandro> close action-95
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-95 ←
15:51:01 <trackbot> Closed action-95.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-95. ←
15:51:03 <sandro> close action-103
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-103 ←
15:51:03 <trackbot> Closed action-103.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-103. ←
15:51:27 <sandro> close action-143
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-143 ←
15:51:27 <trackbot> Closed action-143.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-143. ←
15:52:01 <sandro> close action-152
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-152 ←
15:52:02 <trackbot> Closed action-152.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-152. ←
15:52:03 <sandro> close action-153
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-153 ←
15:52:03 <trackbot> Closed action-153.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-153. ←
15:52:07 <fadmaa> TOPIC: DCAT
15:52:38 <DaveReynolds> Yes, congratulations on getting DCAT through to CR!
Dave Reynolds: Yes, congratulations on getting DCAT through to CR! ←
15:54:08 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: Can we change the description of properties in the document? Can we still do editorial changes?
Fadi Maali: Can we change the description of properties in the document? Can we still do editorial changes? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:54:30 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro: yes, as long as it's not going to change any implementations or make anyone unhappy with the document.
Sandro Hawke: yes, as long as it's not going to change any implementations or make anyone unhappy with the document. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:55:05 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: Okay, there are two things. DCAT doesn't support versioning and we won't be adding it. There was a suggestion to clarify the description of lastUpdate. I'll ask again for feedback.
Fadi Maali: Okay, there are two things. DCAT doesn't support versioning and we won't be adding it. There was a suggestion to clarify the description of lastUpdate. I'll ask again for feedback. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:56:01 <HadleyBeeman> … Second: Comments from Leigh Dodds: I've partially addressed his concerns. He'd still like links next to each term with possible value to be used. Ex: for countries, possibly could be used with geonames.
Hadley Beeman: … Second: Comments from Leigh Dodds: I've partially addressed his concerns. He'd still like links next to each term with possible value to be used. Ex: for countries, possibly could be used with geonames. ←
15:56:38 <HadleyBeeman> … Do you think it's a good idea to include links next to each property of possible values to be used with that property?
Hadley Beeman: … Do you think it's a good idea to include links next to each property of possible values to be used with that property? ←
15:57:16 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi: Should that go into the BP doc? We aren't recommending geonames.
Ghislain Atemezing: Should that go into the BP doc? We aren't recommending geonames. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:57:30 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro: We can put a link as long as using that vocabulary isn't required. It's a non-normative reference.
Sandro Hawke: We can put a link as long as using that vocabulary isn't required. It's a non-normative reference. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:57:51 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi: In that case, for me — it's okay.
Ghislain Atemezing: In that case, for me — it's okay. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:57:53 <sandro> sandro: Not telling people what they SHOULD or MUST do, just something they MIGHT do.
Sandro Hawke: Not telling people what they SHOULD or MUST do, just something they MIGHT do. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:58:16 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: My concern is that this might result in a long discussion without clear criteria on how to select these.
Fadi Maali: My concern is that this might result in a long discussion without clear criteria on how to select these. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:59:10 <HadleyBeeman> Hadley: I'm concerned about the time we have left
Hadley Beeman: I'm concerned about the time we have left [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:59:20 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: Okay, I'll reply to Leigh about this.
Fadi Maali: Okay, I'll reply to Leigh about this. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
15:59:41 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations ←
16:00:11 <HadleyBeeman> … most of the implementations on the table are using an older version. I have a few people promising to update their implementations.
Hadley Beeman: … most of the implementations on the table are using an older version. I have a few people promising to update their implementations. ←
16:00:26 <HadleyBeeman> … Things aren't as bright as for ORG and Data Cube, but I think we have enough to meet CR criteria.
Hadley Beeman: … Things aren't as bright as for ORG and Data Cube, but I think we have enough to meet CR criteria. ←
16:00:46 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open ←
16:01:12 <HadleyBeeman> action-69?
16:01:12 <trackbot> action-69 -- Richard Cyganiak to Create wiki page for void-dcat mapping -- due 2012-05-10 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-69 -- Richard Cyganiak to Create wiki page for void-dcat mapping -- due 2012-05-10 -- OPEN ←
16:01:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/69
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/69 ←
16:01:45 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: People are asking about this. We don't have it documented anywhere.
Fadi Maali: People are asking about this. We don't have it documented anywhere. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:02:10 <HadleyBeeman> sandro: this action reminds me of the table on the schema.org version of the DCAT page which compares all three terminologies. I found that useful.
Sandro Hawke: this action reminds me of the table on the schema.org version of the DCAT page which compares all three terminologies. I found that useful. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:02:42 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets
http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets ←
16:02:43 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets ←
16:02:45 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets#Related_vocabularies
Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets#Related_vocabularies ←
16:03:11 <HadleyBeeman> … ADMS is there too. I don't know how accurate this is...
Hadley Beeman: … ADMS is there too. I don't know how accurate this is... ←
16:03:27 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: DCAT datasets and VoiD datasets may not be the same.
Fadi Maali: DCAT datasets and VoiD datasets may not be the same. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:03:48 <HadleyBeeman> sandro: this may be the subject of a blog post or something. Would be useful to have written authoritatviely.
Sandro Hawke: this may be the subject of a blog post or something. Would be useful to have written authoritatviely. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:04:44 <HadleyBeeman> action fadi to draft a blog post for the W3C semantic web blog or working group note comparing DCAT, VOID (and possibly schema.org and ADMS)
Hadley Beeman: action fadi to draft a blog post for the W3C semantic web blog or working group note comparing DCAT, VOID (and possibly schema.org and ADMS) ←
16:04:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-154 - Draft a blog post for the w3c semantic web blog or working group note comparing dcat, void (and possibly schema.org and adms) [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-11-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-154 - Draft a blog post for the w3c semantic web blog or working group note comparing dcat, void (and possibly schema.org and adms) [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-11-14]. ←
16:05:24 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi: Fadi, you can ask for other vocabularies maybe that people might use?
Ghislain Atemezing: Fadi, you can ask for other vocabularies maybe that people might use? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:05:35 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: not sure if that should go in the same blog post.
Fadi Maali: not sure if that should go in the same blog post. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:06:00 <sandro> close action-69
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-69 ←
16:06:00 <trackbot> Closed action-69.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-69. ←
16:06:37 <sandro> action-77?
16:06:37 <trackbot> action-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN ←
16:06:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77 ←
16:07:38 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: if the BP doc include guidance on how to select values for properties, then linking would be useful.
Fadi Maali: if the BP doc include guidance on how to select values for properties, then linking would be useful. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:07:44 <HadleyBeeman> sandro: we can't link until it's published.
Sandro Hawke: we can't link until it's published. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
16:07:59 <HadleyBeeman> … so we should keep this action open until bp is published and see.
Hadley Beeman: … so we should keep this action open until bp is published and see. ←
16:08:58 <sandro> close action-108
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-108 ←
16:08:58 <trackbot> Closed action-108.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-108. ←
16:09:08 <sandro> action-112?
16:09:08 <trackbot> action-112 -- Fadi Maali to Organize a call with people who are able to help resolve open DCAT issues. -- due 2013-04-18 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-112 -- Fadi Maali to Organize a call with people who are able to help resolve open DCAT issues. -- due 2013-04-18 -- OPEN ←
16:09:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/112
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/112 ←
16:09:12 <sandro> close action-112
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-112 ←
16:09:12 <trackbot> Closed action-112.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-112. ←
16:09:30 <sandro> close action-120
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-120 ←
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16:09:52 <sandro> close action-124
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-124 ←
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Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-140 ←
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16:10:34 <sandro> close action-144
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-144 ←
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16:10:40 <sandro> close action-146
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-146 ←
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16:11:08 <sandro> close action-150
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-150 ←
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16:12:05 <sandro> close action-122
Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-122 ←
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16:12:22 <HadleyBeeman> sandro, tell Zakim I hope he's feeling better soon. :)
Hadley Beeman: sandro, tell Zakim I hope he's feeling better soon. :) ←
16:12:27 <sandro> :)
Sandro Hawke: :) ←
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16:12:31 <Zakim> Attendees were
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16:13:42 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, make minutes public
RRSAgent, make minutes public ←
16:13:42 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', fadmaa. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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16:13:55 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes
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