IRC log of webfonts on 2013-11-20
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/11/20-webfonts-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 3668
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- ok, trackbot; I see IA_Fonts()4:00PM scheduled to start now
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- Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 20 November 2013
- 21:01:30 [Vlad]
- zakim, who is here?
- 21:01:30 [Zakim]
- IA_Fonts()4:00PM has not yet started, Vlad
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, kuettel, Vlad, sergeym, trackbot
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- zakim, this is 3668
- 21:01:41 [Zakim]
- ok, Vlad; that matches IA_Fonts()4:00PM
- 21:01:45 [Vlad]
- zakim, who is here?
- 21:01:45 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Vlad, [Microsoft], +1.650.214.aaaa
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, kuettel, Vlad, sergeym, trackbot
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- +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- +jfkthame
- 21:09:07 [Vlad]
- scribe: cslye
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- kuettel: Updates from Google
- 21:09:57 [cslye]
- New Brotli version pushed out.
- 21:10:09 [cslye]
- and WOFF2 tools
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- Asking about interest in re-running compression tests for stats.
- 21:11:59 [Zakim]
- + +1.250.668.aabb
- 21:13:01 [kuettel]
- Link to the Font Compression Reference project with the new conversion tool with Brotli:
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- https://code.google.com/p/font-compression-reference/
- 21:13:30 [cslye]
- kuettel: Will post new instructions for tools.
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- Now changed from Java to C++
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- Vlad: TPAC news...
- 21:16:09 [cslye]
- Spoke of involving Larry Masinter of Adobe.
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- about media types.
- 21:16:33 [cslye]
- Vlad spoke informally to Larry.
- 21:16:56 [cslye]
- Larry asks what we want to get out of a new media type.
- 21:17:22 [cslye]
- How far we get is dependent on how we answer the question.
- 21:18:59 [cslye]
- Getting a good story together is the first important task.
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- Vlad: Plan to use new compression technology in WOFF2, IETF might be a good place to put it.
- 21:22:16 [cslye]
- IETF is maybe not a good place for a standards track document.
- 21:24:53 [cslye]
- Lack of compression experts or other interest there might be bad for it.
- 21:24:58 [cslye]
- ISO might be better?
- 21:26:17 [cslye]
- Where do most compression standards exist?
- 21:27:17 [cslye]
- ZLIP Compressed Data format is IETF.
- 21:27:44 [jfkthame]
- http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1950
- 21:28:21 [cslye]
- Spec there is "information only".
- 21:29:34 [cslye]
- ZLIB seems legitimate enough, so it just depends on people being comfortable with IETF as a vehicle.
- 21:30:15 [cslye]
- If it starts as info only, it could move to standards track later.
- 21:31:48 [cslye]
- Vlad: The lack of process complexity makes it easier to publish.
- 21:32:27 [cslye]
- jfkthame: More formal process might help with comfort around patents.
- 21:33:37 [cslye]
- Vlad: ISO has experts which will better-vet the technology and IP.
- 21:35:37 [cslye]
- cslye: How do we decide which avenue to take?
- 21:36:05 [cslye]
- Vlad: Best that WG members talk to colleagues and bring back an opinion/preference.
- 21:36:24 [cslye]
- Vlad: will check with Chris L.
- 21:36:56 [cslye]
- jfkthame: What's the best ISO channel?
- 21:37:13 [cslye]
- Vlad: MPEG committee. Knows compression.
- 21:37:53 [cslye]
- Some overlap between MPEG and JPEG committees.
- 21:38:30 [cslye]
- jfkthame: Less experience with lossless compression?
- 21:38:55 [cslye]
- Vlad: Not a big deal. One stage of larger compression picture.
- 21:39:36 [cslye]
- Vlad: No urgent need to decide. Just something to think about and discuss.
- 21:40:37 [cslye]
- Vlad: Did Google have any advice for IETF?
- 21:41:03 [cslye]
- kuettel: Nothing yet. Maybe next week.
- 21:41:30 [cslye]
- kuettel: Might have an update in two weeks.
- 21:41:55 [cslye]
- John_Hudson: Size specific design selection, related to web/CSS...
- 21:42:16 [cslye]
- Microsoft published OS/2 proposal.
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- jfkthame: Probably best discussed in CSS WG.
- 21:44:11 [cslye]
- Vlad: Should we have a call on the 27th?
- 21:44:26 [cslye]
- No interest. Will cancel call.
- 21:44:40 [cslye]
- Vlad: Would like to see more activity on the email list.
- 21:45:34 [cslye]
- cslye: Bram Stein from Adobe Typekit is now WG member.
- 21:46:29 [Vlad]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/20-webfonts-minutes.html Vlad
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- disconnecting the lone participant, [Microsoft], in IA_Fonts()4:00PM
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- IA_Fonts()4:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Vlad, [Microsoft], +1.650.214.aaaa, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, jfkthame, +1.250.668.aabb
- 22:15:29 [Vlad]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 22:15:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/20-webfonts-minutes.html Vlad
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