<trackbot> Date: 01 October 2013

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CS: I've done some of my tasks regarding IE11.
... Let me look at my notes.

ACTION-1255

action-1255?

<trackbot> action-1255 -- Cynthia Shelly to Look into toggle patterns and how that needs to be modified in the uaig. -- due 2013-09-28 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1255

CS: Treegrid in IE11 is mapped to DataGrid.
... with a legacy role.
... and the treeitem children are treeitem.
... the experience in MSAA is weird: a table with treeitems in it.

ACTION-1257

action-1257?

<trackbot> action-1257 -- Cynthia Shelly to Check the ie10 and ie11 to see how they map the treegrid role. -- due 2013-09-28 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1257

<cyns> 1257 IE11

<cyns> Treegrid is

<cyns> ControlType: UIA_DataGridControlTypeId (0xC36C)

<cyns> LocalizedControlType: "tree grid"

<cyns> LegacyIAccessible.Role: table (0x18)

<cyns> Treeitem is

<cyns> ControlType: UIA_TreeItemControlTypeId (0xC368)

<cyns> LocalizedControlType: "tree item"

<cyns> LegacyIAccessible.Role: outline item (0x24)

JS: right now, the UAIG says:
... MSAA+UIAExpress: treegrid maps to ROLE_SYSTEM_CELL.

UIA: maps to DataItem.

MSAA+UIAExpress: treeitem maps to ROLE_SYSTEM_OUTLINEITEM

UIA: treeitem maps to TreeItem

JS: So, for MSAA+UIExpress don't use MSAA values, just use UIA.
... So: treegrid is mapped as DataGrid, and treeitem is mapped as TreeItem
... Also, currently for pure UIA table says use "DataItem".

CS: that's wrong.
... use "DataGrid".
... for treegrid
... I think it is fine to make the change. IE11 is newer,
... I'll have to work on IE10 in the meantime.

action-1269

action-1269?

<trackbot> action-1269 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Prefix bullet 2 of #keyboard-focus_aria-activedescendant with "for platforms that expose an accessibility focus separately from the keyboard focus," -- due 2013-10-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269

JS: Change "keyboard focus" to "dom focus"

CS: yes.
... also ,..

<cyns> for platforms that expose desktop (or OS) focus separately from DOM focus

<cyns> or "for platforms that expose operating system focus separately from DOM focus"

CS: in windows, the focus events are not just a11y focus events, but desktop focus events.

for platforms that expose operating system focus or a11y focus separately from DOM focus

for platforms that expose operating system focus (windows) or a11y focus (linxu) separately from DOM focus

"For Windows, there is no separate a11y focus, but there is a separate desktop focus, that is set by IE and FF — separate from the DOM focus"

https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269

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