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15:53:25 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
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15:58:54 <glenn> zakim, ??p1 is me
15:58:54 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
15:59:41 <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
15:59:43 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:59:44 <Zakim> +pladd
15:59:45 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
15:59:46 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:59:46 <trackbot> Date: 01 August 2013
15:59:46 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
15:59:54 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:59:54 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
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16:00:21 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:00:24 <Zakim> +??P9
16:00:33 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:00:33 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:01:38 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JulSep/0013.html
16:01:50 <paulc> zakim, who is here?
16:01:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, ??P9
16:01:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, pladd, paulc, dio, chaals, jaymunro, sgalineau, ddorwin, jeffh, jernoble, hober, tinkster, st2, glenn, Hixie, yoav, MikeSmith, Philip, paul___irish, jmb,
16:01:51 <Zakim> ... gavin, karl, jgraham, Jedi, gsnedders, decadance, NeatBasis, tobie
16:02:05 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:02:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, ??P9
16:02:05 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, ??P9
16:02:07 <Zakim> + +1.818.954.aaaa
16:02:15 <jernoble> Zakim, aaaa is me
16:02:15 <Zakim> +jernoble; got it
16:02:16 <janina> zakim, ??P9 is me
16:02:16 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:02:28 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:02:35 <Zakim> +hober
16:02:35 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
16:02:36 <jernoble> whoops, aaaa is not me.
16:02:36 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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16:03:12 <Zakim> +Daniel
16:03:13 <jaymunro> scribe: jaymunro
16:03:29 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:03:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, janina, jernoble, [Microsoft], hober, +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel
16:03:31 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
16:04:24 <Zakim> -jernoble
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16:05:07 <jaymunro> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, August 1
16:05:18 <jaymunro> topic: things closing last week: none
16:05:27 <Zakim> + +1.303.661.aacc
16:05:32 <jaymunro> a quite week.
16:05:43 <paulc> s/quite/quiet/
16:05:46 <Clarke> zakim, aacc is me
16:05:47 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
16:05:50 <glenn> zakim, jernoble is hober
16:05:50 <Zakim> +hober; got it
16:06:03 <jaymunro> no items for first action.
16:06:05 <glenn> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:06:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, janina, [Microsoft], hober, +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel, hober.a, Clarke
16:06:08 <jaymunro> no items for second item.
16:06:08 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
16:06:55 <jaymunro> Topic: Items closed last week: none
16:07:04 <jaymunro> topic: items closing this week:
16:07:09 <jaymunro> none
16:07:11 <Zakim> -hober.a
16:07:13 <Zakim> +CyrilRa
16:07:21 <jaymunro> topic:New calls this week:
16:07:22 <jaymunro> none
16:07:31 <jaymunro> topic: decisions this week: none
16:07:42 <jaymunro> Task force reports, Krisk is out this week.
16:08:08 <jaymunro> topic: accessiblity task force. just met
16:08:20 <jaymunro> main item, a lot of status updates , relating to alt
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16:08:40 <jaymunro> refining, making sure everything is correct and solid. Not expecting to change.
16:08:52 <jaymunro> talked about all the permutations and approaches
16:09:01 <jaymunro> talked about testing, decision to start a new sub team
16:09:17 <jaymunro> getting longdesc going.
16:09:36 <jaymunro> several people spoke up on what platforms they need testing with.
16:10:02 <jaymunro> talked about need to start media sub team.
16:10:14 <jaymunro> should start sometime in August.
16:10:49 <jaymunro> concerns about media controls. need to be keyboard accessible, need to get specs available in the right places.
16:11:29 <jaymunro> Charles appologized for work statement and decision policy. bad network access... Expects resolution soon.
16:11:53 <jaymunro> will be forwarding email with 2014
16:12:05 <jaymunro> Paul should expect mail next week
16:12:55 <jaymunro> Paul: lastweek we heard on comments that chairs pushed back might be bugs. Will they be presented back to the wg.
16:13:17 <jaymunro> Janina: which issues need bugs, tests, drop, etc... Email expected this afternoon.
16:14:29 <jaymunro> Team contact Marc Sedeki - team contact - was handling the comments on the exit criteria content.
16:14:43 <jaymunro> Topic: media task force
16:14:56 <paulc> CfC to take MSE Last Call: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Jul/0018.html
16:14:58 <jaymunro> Pauk: currently a cfc going on inside the task force to take mse to last call
16:15:18 <jaymunro> that closes at the end of the week. If closes successfully, Paul will issue a WG call for concensus.
16:15:28 <jaymunro> task force has dealt with pre-LC bugs
16:15:42 <jaymunro> except for a couple that were presented after closed.
16:15:54 <jaymunro> Encrypted media has about 15 bugs, some very hard.
16:16:13 <jaymunro> Since MSE is making more progress, changing schedule and do two or three EME calls
16:16:47 <jaymunro> Paul: Janina, expect last call from Aug 15 - end of Sept for EME
16:16:49 <jaymunro> last call
16:17:37 <jaymunro> Topic: Other business
16:17:45 <jaymunro> Topic: WG Decision to publish two revised heartbeat Candidate Recommendations
16:17:45 <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jul/0057.html
16:17:45 <jaymunro> Status: Publication is expect on Thu Aug 1.
16:18:16 <jaymunro> publications were expected today, but glitch. Now Canvas spec holding up until next week.
16:18:27 <jaymunro> Both HTML and Canvas will be done next week
16:18:36 <jaymunro> Topic: Responsive images meet-up in Paris
16:18:36 <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0055.html
16:18:52 <jaymunro> During CSS meeting, will be meetup to discuss responsive images spec.
16:19:22 <jaymunro> Topic: [CSSWG][css-counter-styles] Last Call WD of CSS Counter Styles
16:19:22 <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0047.html
16:19:29 <jaymunro> Heads-up: Last Call for css3-cascade
16:19:29 <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0046.html
16:19:59 <jaymunro> last calls on these, make comments on these. If anything in CSS spec that breaks HTML spec, discuss in WG to get feedback
16:20:07 <jaymunro> Topic: Updated alt text advice in HTML spec
16:20:07 <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0037.html
16:20:07 <jaymunro> Status: If these items are all accepted then we may be able to terminate work on “HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives”:
16:20:07 <jaymunro> http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/
16:20:30 <jaymunro> The task force has been working on taking content with bugs and working them into HTML5 spec.
16:20:48 <jaymunro> If concensus on this, the alt alternatives doc could go away
16:21:28 <jaymunro> If the separate topic has separate normative text. COmbining would be better expressed in one place.
16:21:46 <jaymunro> Topic: Registration open for HTML WG F2F meeting, Shenzen, China, Nov 14-15 2013
16:21:46 <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jul/0073.html
16:21:46 <jaymunro> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-nov-2013/
16:23:01 <jaymunro> Three 1/2 months away. Chairs putting out survey to see if members want to meet for the F2F. Keeping item on agenda to see if people responding.
16:23:25 <Zakim> -Dio
16:23:45 <jaymunro> Topic: any other business? None
16:23:55 <jaymunro> Volunteer scribe? None
16:24:07 <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:24:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/01-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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16:24:18 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:24:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, paulc, janina, [Microsoft], +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel, Clarke, CyrilRa, Dio
16:24:19 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
16:24:21 <Zakim> -Clarke
16:24:21 <Zakim> -Daniel
16:24:24 <Zakim> -janina
16:24:25 <Zakim> -glenn
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16:24:30 <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:24:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/01-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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16:25:53 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:25:53 <Zakim> Attendees were Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, +1.818.954.aaaa, janina, hober, jaymunro, +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel, +1.303.661.aacc, Clarke, CyrilRa
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