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JS: I've done work for the table of author errors.
... Cynthia approves, but I want your opinion, davidb
... It has to do with author errors and required aria attributes on roles.

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#document-handling_author-errors

JS: <describes table>

DB: yeah.
... ok.

<davidb> DB: i still don't like 'undefined' as a literal value

DB: I've gone over these in my head, and I don't think there is any problems.

JS: I don't like 'undefined' as a literal value either.

<davidb> I think surkov would agree.

<davidb> you can see we have to actually check undefined here sigh http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/src/base/nsAccUtils.cpp#184

<davidb> anyways

Resolved: close action-1200.

JS: related issue about aria-checked undefined.
... Should that not also say the accessible is not check-able, where the AAPI allows that?

DB: probably, there is a checkabl state is IA2.

JS: and there something simliar in AT-SPI.
... the spec states that aria-checked being undefined means the accessilble is not check-able.

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#aria-checked

The element does not support being checked

<davidb> discussion from aug 8 2008 (5 years ago) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452388

JS: note comment 6 — https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452388#c6
... where aaron says, "Any "undefined" value for something of type NMTOKEN is the same as it not being present."
... that is, an explicit "undefined" string is equivalent to the attribute being absent.

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