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MLW-LT WG

06 Mar 2013

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
dF, davelewis, Karl, olaf-michael, philRichie, Ankit, Yves, chriLi, shaunm, Naoto, felix(partially_on_IRC)
Regrets
felix
Chair
daveL
Scribe
kfritsche

Contents


<fsasaki> chair: dave

<fsasaki> daveL, dF, can you make sure that http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0077.html is taken into account today? I can't be on the call but will watch on IRC. Thanks

<dF> Thanks, Felix, sure the WD publication is our priority

<dF> I just want to confirm, the link you sent earlier today

<dF> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/mlw-metadata-uc-impl/mlw-metadata-us-impl-wiki2spec.html

<dF> is it the TR form?

<dF> or is the note that you are going to transorm wiki after approval still relevant?

<fsasaki> hi dF, that is what I will use for the publication. But you can send to the chairs list whatever you want - I will then adapt http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/mlw-metadata-uc-impl/mlw-metadata-us-impl-wiki2spec.html following your mail to the chairs list

<scribe> scribe: kfritsche

<daveL> script: kfritsche

daveL: checking attendance

<daveL> roll call: ankit, christian, dave, david, felix, karl, naoto, shaun, yves

<daveL> roll call: phil, olaf

<daveL> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0064.html

daveL: main topic today is the use cases, so we can publish this
... also quick going through the action to clean up and checking last call issue

<daveL> agenda: add extension namespace topic to XLIFF mapping

Highlevel Use Case wrap up

<daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0068.html

chriLi: i went through all of the text on the weekend and shared my observations
... all mails i send out got answered and changes are made there
... I'm currently aware of two changes I have to look at

<daveL> more implementors mentioned in;

<daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0073.html

chriLi: does anyone has currently concerns with the status of the wiki?
... these implementors are added

dF: i checked my additions there are in place

phil: kevin and chase are "my" coders and should be added

<Yves_> Spartan Software

dF: as which organization should they added?

phil: add them both as Spartan Software

chriLi: I added them now

daveL: anybody else is missing?
... are all sections checked?

dF: the license of solas is not decided yet

chriLi: add it as a note, i will figure it out, how we can manage that there
... there is a discussion about the title
... in the document is not only the use cases also some additional paragraphs
... we now have something ready

daveL: can you forward this to the list?

dF: you included ??? into the the wrong section, it should be moved to 2.11
... there should be also noted that it will be open source (license unclear)

chriLi: thats fixed

<daveL> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/mlw-metadata-uc-impl/mlw-metadata-us-impl-wiki2spec.html

chriLi: thats a slightly outdated version

<chriLi> This is a Working Group Note "High-level Usage Scenarios and Implementation Reports for Internationalization Tag Set 2.0". The W3C Internationalization Tag Set 2.0 - developed by the [http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/ W3C MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group] - enhances the foundation to integrate automated processing of human language into core Web technologies. The W3C MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group received funding by the European Commiss[CUT]

<chriLi> project [http://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/ict/language-technologies/project-multilingualweb-lt_en.html MultilingualWeb-LT (LT-Web))] through the Seventh Framework Programme (FP7) in the area of Language Technologies (Grant Agreement No. 287815).

chriLi: this [above] is the paragraph we discussed

<chriLi> As part of their activities, members of the Working Group and the LT-Web project created various implementations that exemplify how ITS 2.0 supports automated processing of human language into core Web technologies.

daveL: thats the text of the status box
... what is the current note title?

<fsasaki> hi all, just to re-iterate: this is just a draft, not yet a final note ;)

<chriLi> Metadata for the Multilingual Web - Usage Scenarios and Implementations

dF: there are minor edits in the paragraph, which are not in yet

daveL: this is the first draft, so we can update it later

<fsasaki> thanks, daveL and chriLi :)

daveL: Is everybody happy with the current status?
... as a first public draft of the working group note
... any objections

- no objections -

dF: we need pretty printed minutes for this

daveL: normally fsasaki is doing this

<daveL> question for felix; can you generate a pretty printed version of minutes for transition request

<fsasaki> hi dF, no need for pretty printing

<fsasaki> above rrsagent link is enough - also for the mail to the chairs list

dF: requisition request refers to minutes
... the raw link is enough

daveL: after rome we can extend this draft

XLIFF mapping - short update

daveL: send out an email:

<daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0060.html

daveL: updating our implementations and the wiki to the current status
... using match-quality in XLIFF instead of mtConfidence
... all changes are on going, any comments are welcome

<Yves_> I have several comments, but I'll post emails in the thread for that.

<Yves_> too long to comment now

dF: would be good if the whole group would maybe aware of it, maybe we can move it to next call

daveL: can you follow up with the namespace issue

dF: extending namespace without any location or validation resources would be pointless in my mind

<Yves_> I think we can have a schema, just speciifc to our purpose

df: is there a way to use multiple XSD for different scenarios?

<Yves_> standalone xsd is not meaning full

<Yves_> ...in this case

<Yves_> markup make sense only when used with XLIFF

dF: i look for way, that this is not only working as a empty shell, also for validation purposes

<Yves_> The bottom line is I think we can have an XSD for ITS+XLIFF with that namespace, without stepping on the other elements/attributes of that namespace.

phil: can there an uri under that namespace, we could use

<Yves_> there is no rule that says 1 namespace == 1 XSD

daveL: we could always do this

<Yves_> probably

dF: I would be happy to have suche a XSD for ITS+XLIFF
... probably better discuss this further f2f in rome

<dF> itsx.uni.me

<Yves_> That's a URI not an URL

df: itsx.uni.me is what we are using currently until this is resolved

<Yves_> where is it? (URL) could we see it? Thanks.

<dF> http://itsx.uni.me/

<daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0070.html

<dF> There is just a sample xsd there now

<Yves_> thanks.

last call issue check

daveL: moving the agenda around and maybe we could jump to last call issues because we are at the end of the hour

<scribe> ACTION: Uploading XSD to github to daveL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Error finding 'Uploading'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/users>.

<scribe> ACTION: daveL to Uploading XSD to github [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-457 - Uploading XSD to github [on David Lewis - due 2013-03-13].

<daveL> http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling

<fsasaki> hi all, just for the record, I had an action item to create a separate (= not the existing extension URI) namespace URI for its-xliff mapping - if this is needed please let me know and I can try to do that this week

<dF> http://services.w3.org/xslt?xslfile=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fmultilingualweb%2Flt%2Fdrafts%2Fits20%2Ftools%2Fxslt%2Fdisco-for-its20.xsl&xmlfile=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fmultilingualweb%2Flt%2Ftrack%2Fapi%2Fdump%3Ffull&content-type=&submit=transform

dF: oldest open issue is 67

<daveL> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/67

dF: issue 68 is mostly resolved
... chriLi are you satisfied with the solution of this?

chriLi: i can't answer this today, because i was busy with editing the high level use cases draft

dF: many issues are only editorial actions left

daveL: maybe we need longer editor calls, like we have shortly before the first draft

dF: but not all are only editing actions
... there is still some pending issues

daveL: maybe this is mostly co-chair stuff between felix, david and me to check this
... we need this table in form the W3C can go through this and accepts its
... remind everybody you should print and bring your poster by yourself to rome
... there is also a call on Friday for Luxembourg preparations

<dF> http://www.localizationworld.com/lwlon2013/feisgiltt/

daveL: would be good to see some demos at the ITS2 track in London at Feisgiltt
... maybe you can promote your products there
... next week no call, because most of us are in rome
... see you all in rome
... chrili is the wiki stable now?

chrili: give me maybe half an hour

daveL: i will prepare and wait for your mail

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: daveL to Uploading XSD to github [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Uploading XSD to github to daveL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
 
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Present: dF davelewis Karl olaf-michael philRichie Ankit Yves chriLi shaunm Naoto felix(partially_on_IRC)
Regrets: felix
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0064.html
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