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04 Feb 2013

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Attendees

Present
Jon_Gunderson, Shadi, James_Nurthen, Robin, Loretta, Marc_Johlic, [IPcaller], Joshue
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<Joshue108> :-)

<jongund> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#button

<Loretta_> wireless and skype appear to be fighting again this moring. :-(

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/04feb2013/results

<Loretta_> will try one more time...

<jamesn> scribeNick: marcjohlic

Discussion of Accessibility Support Database w/ Shadi

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_1.1.1#User_Agent_notes

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_1.1.1#Example_1

Shadi: Rather than statically entering User Agent Notes and code samples in each technique, they would be housed in ASD and techniques could link to them.
... as technology updates, the ASD would be updated - keeping examples and notes more dynamic and up to date
... Currently prototyping and testing
... Still working on details on how to get from A to B - if this group agrees to use
... Test samples would be in the tool so anyone could go and run tests

JN: Looks good - but there is a concern about adding any extra things for us to do as a group due to the limited number of participants in this group.

JOC: Shadi may have the bandwidth to help with that

Shadi: During initial phase we will have resources that can help do testing on several different configurations
... We could work in tandem. You could provide a list of techniques that we could test.

JOC: This could run independently and could add support - and a way to demonstrate without much overhead
... Believe it is worthwhile

JN: Does the tool have a way of linking to the final query page? If i want to publish an aria technique, can i link directly to the page on where this is supported

Shadi: Yes - still working on functionality - but idea is that you could deep link to exactly the portion (or embed it into your technique)
... It's an open interface with the idea of being able to pull data from it

<Loretta> hello?

<Loretta> just checking to see if I lost irc as well as skype. :-(

<jongund> http://oaa-accessibility.org/examples/

JN: How do you support partially supported in ASD?

Shadi: Use of comment field - also expect that there may be conflicting results and that may show where AT is hard to use and interpret

JN: Concern where AT may work - but where users don't know the correct way to use it to get the proper result

JOC: All we can really say is that this technique is supported when following proper technique. Something that will always be an issue.

Shadi: User interface can be adapted to provide more clarity (highlight comments / best answers features)

JG: How will people be recruited and know what to test?

Shadi: We don't want to open it too much just yet. Beginning would be just working with this group.

JG: Will test cases have expected results?

Shadi: Writing the test is the critical part and we would not be able to do on your behalf - but maybe with your assistance. Idea is that a test would be entered (and described).

<Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/index.php?title=Techniques/UAtesting

<jongund> have to go to another call

<Loretta> A problem that we have long needed to solve Not sure how realistic it will be.

<Loretta> Don't want to gate ARIA techiques, but think it is worth trying,

<Joshue108> ok, thanks Loretta

<Loretta> Note: Shadi's "test" is our "example"

<Joshue108> right

<Loretta> I don't think our test procedures are generally usable this way

<Joshue108> Have you any ideas for how we can make them more dynamic/testable?

JN: What's the timeline

Shadi: We're working on prototyping where we can work with you. We have funding through 9/2015.

JN: When would we be able to put this in a technique that we want to publish?

Shadi: Hoping by the summer / June

<Loretta> Sorry, folks, I need to go...

<jamesn> jsfiddle.net

<Joshue108> no bother.bye

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