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17:56:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
17:56:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
17:56:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
17:56:26 <trackbot> Date: 31 January 2013
17:57:29 <clown> RRSAgent, make log public
17:59:01 <clown> zakim, what conference is this?
17:59:02 <Zakim> this will be WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM conference code 2274, clown
17:59:50 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM has now started
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17:59:58 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
17:59:58 <clown> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jan/0032.html
18:00:14 <clown> agenda: this
18:00:35 <clown> agenda+ Preparing for last call draft -- set a "document freeze" date considering edits tracked in ISSUE-550.
18:00:35 <clown> 
18:00:51 <clown> agenda+ New issue pertaining to edit freeze (ISSUE-552): IAccesible2 events for selection scenarios, and section in UAIG.
18:01:01 <clown> agenda+ Issues/Actions review https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
18:01:10 <clown> agenda+ Bugzilla review https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116
18:01:12 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
18:01:17 <clown> agenda + be done
18:01:59 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
18:02:15 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:02:15 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
18:02:26 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:02:26 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:02:33 <clown> scribenick: clown
18:02:54 <clown> zakim, save agenda
18:03:01 <Zakim> ok, clown, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/31-aapi-agenda.rdf
18:03:29 <clown> take up agendum 1
18:03:45 <clown> topic:  Document freeze date.
18:03:54 <clown> ISSUE-550?
18:03:54 <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
18:03:54 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
18:06:36 <clown> ISSUE-552?
18:06:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-552 -- UAIG spec. is inaccurate wrt selection events pertaining to aria-selected being applied (MSAA/IA2) -- open
18:06:36 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/552
18:09:20 <clown> CS:  we should spec that selection added and selection removed events happen in mutli-selectable containers.
18:09:52 <clown> CS:  just because it isn't implmented, we shouldn't change the spec.
18:10:17 <clown> DB: this is something best checked offline; will check with Alex.
18:11:01 <clown> JS:  conclusion:  this will be investigated and might have an answer next week.
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18:14:53 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
18:15:21 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
18:15:39 <clown> action-1144?
18:15:39 <trackbot> ACTION-1144 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to confirm that UAIG mapping entry for aria-live="assertive" is correct for AT-SPI. -- due 2013-01-13 -- OPEN
18:15:39 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1144
18:16:45 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17716]
18:17:52 <clown> JS:  definition of note from spec:  A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource.
18:17:58 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#note
18:18:29 <davidb> http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/_accessible_role_8idl.html#e37ff81431ee3762a5d41a2cb909108daec490b192bd57535e3310282bb7ba01
18:18:38 <davidb> I don't know if that is the latest
18:20:35 <clown> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/sections.html#the-aside-element
18:21:26 <clown> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
18:22:09 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#complementary
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18:27:01 <clown> DB:  the bugzilla agains the mapping or role='note' to IA2_ROLE_NOTE does not need to block a document freeze.
18:27:33 <clown> DB: will ping Pete Brunet for the current status of IA2_ROLE_NOTE role note edit.
18:28:56 <clown> ISSUE-550?
18:28:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
18:28:56 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
18:29:15 <clown> ACTION-851?
18:29:15 <trackbot> ACTION-851 -- Cynthia Shelly to look through APG design patterns re: menus for examples that relate to UAIG 5.8.4 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
18:29:15 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851
18:30:06 <clown> CS:  was looking at this earlier.  will continue to do so.
18:30:28 <clown> ISSUE-546?
18:30:28 <trackbot> ISSUE-546 -- When aria-invalid="true/false", the state mapping table is misleading for UIA. -- open
18:30:28 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/546
18:32:00 <clown> CS: we resolved this already.
18:32:07 <clown> JS:  yes, it's my edit now.
18:32:29 <clown> ACTION-1152
18:32:30 <trackbot> ACTION-1152 -- Cynthia Shelly to investigate whether a pure UIA implementation does not have a description field -- due 2013-01-28 -- OPEN
18:32:30 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1152
18:32:50 <clown> CS:  I haven't done that yet.  It shouldn't take long; just need to find the time to do it.
18:34:19 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19780]
18:35:13 <clown> CS:  I think a freeze date would be that all bugs will be fixed by the first week after CSUN, and then whatever edit time it takes Joseph.
18:35:20 <clown> CS:  bugs done by Mar 8.
18:35:31 <clown> davidb?
18:36:12 <clown> DB:  I think that's a fair target.
18:37:28 <clown> CS:  action 1152 is an email discussion I have to have with someone.
18:37:47 <Zakim> -[Mozilla]
18:37:50 <clown> CS:  bugzilla 19780 is something that should be quick.
18:38:07 <clown> CS:  Bugzilla 19786 should also be quick.
18:38:39 <clown> CS:  Bugzilla 19772 is a discussion with Alex.  That might take longer.
18:39:01 <clown> CS:  Bugzilla 11511 will take a while.  Drag and drop is complicated.
18:39:35 <clown> CS:  Let me fix 19780 and 19786 right now.
18:40:51 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
18:41:00 <clown> CS: let me spend the rest of the time working on 19780 and 19786.
18:41:08 <clown> JS: okay.  let's end the meeting early then.
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18:42:43 <clown> zakim, bye
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18:46:06 <clown> present:  David_Bolter
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18:47:32 <clown> present:  David_Bolter, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Cynthia_Shelley
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18:48:57 <clown> chair: Joseph_Scheuhammer
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