IRC log of aapi on 2013-01-31

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Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 31 January 2013
17:57:29 [clown]
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zakim, what conference is this?
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this will be WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM conference code 2274, clown
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WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM has now started
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jan/0032.html
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agenda: this
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agenda+ Preparing for last call draft -- set a "document freeze" date considering edits tracked in ISSUE-550.
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agenda+ New issue pertaining to edit freeze (ISSUE-552): IAccesible2 events for selection scenarios, and section in UAIG.
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agenda+ Issues/Actions review https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
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agenda+ Bugzilla review https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116
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+[Mozilla]
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agenda + be done
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+[GVoice]
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zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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+Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
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zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
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scribenick: clown
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zakim, save agenda
18:03:01 [Zakim]
ok, clown, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/31-aapi-agenda.rdf
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take up agendum 1
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topic: Document freeze date.
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ISSUE-550?
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ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
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ISSUE-552?
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ISSUE-552 -- UAIG spec. is inaccurate wrt selection events pertaining to aria-selected being applied (MSAA/IA2) -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/552
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CS: we should spec that selection added and selection removed events happen in mutli-selectable containers.
18:09:52 [clown]
CS: just because it isn't implmented, we shouldn't change the spec.
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DB: this is something best checked offline; will check with Alex.
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JS: conclusion: this will be investigated and might have an answer next week.
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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action-1144?
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ACTION-1144 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to confirm that UAIG mapping entry for aria-live="assertive" is correct for AT-SPI. -- due 2013-01-13 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1144
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17716]
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JS: definition of note from spec: A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource.
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#note
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http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/_accessible_role_8idl.html#e37ff81431ee3762a5d41a2cb909108daec490b192bd57535e3310282bb7ba01
18:18:38 [davidb]
I don't know if that is the latest
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/sections.html#the-aside-element
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https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#complementary
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DB: the bugzilla agains the mapping or role='note' to IA2_ROLE_NOTE does not need to block a document freeze.
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DB: will ping Pete Brunet for the current status of IA2_ROLE_NOTE role note edit.
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ISSUE-550?
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ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
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ACTION-851?
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ACTION-851 -- Cynthia Shelly to look through APG design patterns re: menus for examples that relate to UAIG 5.8.4 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851
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CS: was looking at this earlier. will continue to do so.
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ISSUE-546?
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ISSUE-546 -- When aria-invalid="true/false", the state mapping table is misleading for UIA. -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/546
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CS: we resolved this already.
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JS: yes, it's my edit now.
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ACTION-1152
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ACTION-1152 -- Cynthia Shelly to investigate whether a pure UIA implementation does not have a description field -- due 2013-01-28 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1152
18:32:50 [clown]
CS: I haven't done that yet. It shouldn't take long; just need to find the time to do it.
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19780]
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CS: I think a freeze date would be that all bugs will be fixed by the first week after CSUN, and then whatever edit time it takes Joseph.
18:35:20 [clown]
CS: bugs done by Mar 8.
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davidb?
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DB: I think that's a fair target.
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CS: action 1152 is an email discussion I have to have with someone.
18:37:47 [Zakim]
-[Mozilla]
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CS: bugzilla 19780 is something that should be quick.
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CS: Bugzilla 19786 should also be quick.
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CS: Bugzilla 19772 is a discussion with Alex. That might take longer.
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CS: Bugzilla 11511 will take a while. Drag and drop is complicated.
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CS: Let me fix 19780 and 19786 right now.
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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CS: let me spend the rest of the time working on 19780 and 19786.
18:41:08 [clown]
JS: okay. let's end the meeting early then.
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zakim, bye
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present: David_Bolter
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chair: Joseph_Scheuhammer
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