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13:57:23 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/08-ldp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/08-ldp-irc ←
13:57:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
13:57:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP ←
13:57:27 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes ←
13:57:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:57:28 <trackbot> Date: 08 October 2012
13:58:30 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started ←
13:58:37 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
13:58:48 <Zakim> + +1.408.996.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.408.996.aaaa ←
13:58:57 <Arnaud> zakim, aaaa is me
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, aaaa is me ←
13:58:57 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud; got it ←
13:58:59 <Zakim> -??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P0 ←
13:59:03 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
13:59:51 <Zakim> +??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7 ←
13:59:55 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
13:59:56 <Zakim> + +44.117.370.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.117.370.aabb ←
13:59:59 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
14:00:04 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:00:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, ??P2, ??P7, +44.117.370.aabb, ??P0, ??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, ??P2, ??P7, +44.117.370.aabb, ??P0, ??P4 ←
14:00:04 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
14:00:09 <nmihindu> zakim, P2 is me
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: zakim, P2 is me ←
14:00:09 <Zakim> sorry, nmihindu, I do not recognize a party named 'P2'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, nmihindu, I do not recognize a party named 'P2' ←
14:00:18 <SteveS> zakim, [IBM] is me
Steve Speicher: zakim, [IBM] is me ←
14:00:18 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
14:00:25 <Zakim> -??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P0 ←
14:00:25 <stevebattle> zakim, +44.117.370.aabb is me
Steve Battle: zakim, +44.117.370.aabb is me ←
14:00:25 <Zakim> +stevebattle; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +stevebattle; got it ←
14:00:30 <svillata> Zakim, ??P7 is me
Serena Villata: Zakim, ??P7 is me ←
14:00:30 <Zakim> +svillata; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +svillata; got it ←
14:00:46 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
14:01:00 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P0 is me
Raúl García Castro: zakim, ??P0 is me ←
14:01:00 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rgarcia; got it ←
14:01:10 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P2 is me
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, ??P2 is me ←
14:01:10 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nmihindu; got it ←
14:01:26 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:01:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia ←
14:01:28 <Zakim> +??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←
14:01:37 <Zakim> + +1.845.433.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.845.433.aacc ←
14:01:37 <ghard> zakim, ??P11 is me
Yrjana Rankka: zakim, ??P11 is me ←
14:01:39 <Zakim> +ghard; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ghard; got it ←
14:02:13 <Zakim> +??P5
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5 ←
14:02:17 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p5 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p5 is me ←
14:02:17 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
14:02:35 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:02:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, +1.845.433.aacc, BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, +1.845.433.aacc, BartvanLeeuwen ←
14:02:40 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.208.573.aadd ←
14:03:04 <Zakim> +??P16
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←
14:03:20 <rogerm> rogermenday is on the call
Roger Menday: rogermenday is on the call ←
14:03:23 <JohnArwe> zakim, aacc is me
John Arwe: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:03:23 <Zakim> +JohnArwe; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe; got it ←
14:03:23 <antonis> zakim, ??p16 is me
Antonis Loizou: zakim, ??p16 is me ←
14:03:24 <Zakim> +antonis; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antonis; got it ←
14:04:01 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:04:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, +44.208.573.aadd, antonis
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, +44.208.573.aadd, antonis ←
14:04:07 <Zakim> +??P17
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17 ←
14:04:13 <jkopecky> zakim, ??P17 is me
Jacek Kopecky: zakim, ??P17 is me ←
14:04:13 <Zakim> +jkopecky; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jkopecky; got it ←
14:04:18 <Zakim> +bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish ←
14:04:53 <JohnArwe> zakim, aadd is bblfish
John Arwe: zakim, aadd is bblfish ←
14:04:53 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish; got it ←
14:05:06 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:05:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, bblfish.a, antonis, jkopecky, bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, bblfish.a, antonis, jkopecky, bblfish ←
14:05:23 <bblfish> oh two bblfishes?
Henry Story: oh two bblfishes? ←
14:05:42 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.775.aaee ←
14:05:45 <bblfish> on the phone, that seems odd
Henry Story: on the phone, that seems odd ←
14:05:49 <Zakim> +ArthurK
Zakim IRC Bot: +ArthurK ←
14:05:51 <Zakim> -ArthurK
Zakim IRC Bot: -ArthurK ←
14:05:58 <Kalpa> zakim, aaee is me
Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim, aaee is me ←
14:05:58 <Zakim> +Kalpa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Kalpa; got it ←
14:05:59 <bblfish> zakim, who's on the phone?
Henry Story: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:05:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, bblfish.a, antonis, jkopecky, bblfish, Kalpa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, bblfish.a, antonis, jkopecky, bblfish, Kalpa ←
14:06:11 <JohnArwe> henry, IRC show a + and then a - bblfish just a few lines back ... seems like a transient
John Arwe: henry, IRC show a + and then a - bblfish just a few lines back ... seems like a transient ←
14:06:36 <JohnArwe> * but steve you have 2 ears
John Arwe: * but steve you have 2 ears ←
14:06:44 <Zakim> +ArthurK
Zakim IRC Bot: +ArthurK ←
14:08:50 <Zakim> +??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20 ←
14:09:06 <oberger> Zakim, ??P20 is me
Olivier Berger: Zakim, ??P20 is me ←
14:09:06 <Zakim> +oberger; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +oberger; got it ←
14:09:13 <oberger> sorry a bit late
Olivier Berger: sorry a bit late ←
14:11:49 <ghard> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html
Yrjana Rankka: http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html ←
14:12:03 <oberger> who's the scribe, then ?
Olivier Berger: who's the scribe, then ? ←
14:12:59 <stevebattle> Scribe: Kalpa
(Scribe set to Kalpa Gunaratna)
14:13:01 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:13:05 <oberger> Minutes from last meeting
Olivier Berger: Minutes from last meeting ←
14:13:14 <Kalpa> approving the minutes from the last week
approving the minutes from the last week ←
14:13:14 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me ←
14:13:14 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
14:13:18 <oberger> good luck Kalpa ;-)
Olivier Berger: good luck Kalpa ;-) ←
14:13:27 <bblfish> Approved: Minutes from Oct 1st
Henry Story: Approved: Minutes from Oct 1st ←
14:13:28 <Kalpa> last week's minutes (Oct 1st) approved
last week's minutes (Oct 1st) approved ←
14:13:31 <SteveS> +1 for approving Oct 1st
Steve Speicher: +1 for approving Oct 1st ←
14:13:57 <oberger> and they say we don't work in France ;)
Olivier Berger: and they say we don't work in France ;) ←
14:14:46 <Kalpa> registering for FacetoFace meeting and please register for the event
registering for FacetoFace meeting and please register for the event ←
14:14:54 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:15:08 <Kalpa> deadline to get discount is Oct 16th
deadline to get discount is Oct 16th ←
14:15:31 <Kalpa> moving onto actions list.
moving onto actions list. ←
14:15:35 <SteveS> See http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/Overview.html#fees for deadline and fee details
Steve Speicher: See http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/Overview.html#fees for deadline and fee details ←
14:16:42 <oberger> I think I saw some mention of SDShare from Mhausenblas
Olivier Berger: I think I saw some mention of SDShare from Mhausenblas ←
14:17:11 <oberger> do we need a twitter account to syndicate or is #ldp enough ?
Olivier Berger: do we need a twitter account to syndicate or is #ldp enough ? ←
14:18:06 <SteveS> Proposed W3C Community Group for SDshare http://www.w3.org/community/blog/2012/10/05/proposed-group-sdshare-community-group/
Steve Speicher: Proposed W3C Community Group for SDshare http://www.w3.org/community/blog/2012/10/05/proposed-group-sdshare-community-group/ ←
14:18:15 <oberger> (Mhausenblas proposal for stepping down from editor's role)
Olivier Berger: (Mhausenblas proposal for stepping down from editor's role) ←
14:18:59 <Kalpa> oberger: Mhausenblas request to step down from editor's role
Olivier Berger: Mhausenblas request to step down from editor's role ←
14:19:03 <oberger> ^ to b discussed later
Olivier Berger: ^ to b discussed later ←
14:19:36 <JohnArwe> kalpa, WG home page has a link near bottom under ...Resources to common scribe manual if you want to read up on the tools ... pts to http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual
John Arwe: kalpa, WG home page has a link near bottom under ...Resources to common scribe manual if you want to read up on the tools ... pts to http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual ←
14:20:00 <bblfish> Issue-9?
14:20:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs? -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-9 -- Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs? -- raised ←
14:20:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/9
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/9 ←
14:20:22 <SteveS> Topic: discussing pending issues and transitioning to open
14:20:51 <SteveS> +1 ISSUE-9 to open
Steve Speicher: +1 ISSUE-9 to open ←
14:21:07 <bblfish> +1 good points. The vocabulary is too strict here
Henry Story: +1 good points. The vocabulary is too strict here ←
14:21:59 <Kalpa> moving onto discuss about issues. follow the link http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues
moving onto discuss about issues. follow the link http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues ←
14:22:09 <bblfish> Issue-9 open
Henry Story: ISSUE-9 open ←
14:22:14 <bblfish> open Issue-9
Henry Story: open ISSUE-9 ←
14:22:36 <Kalpa> no objections to open issue 9
no objections to open ISSUE-9 ←
14:22:56 <JohnArwe> trackbot, open issue-9
John Arwe: trackbot, open ISSUE-9 ←
14:22:56 <trackbot> Sorry, JohnArwe, I don't understand 'trackbot, open issue-9'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, JohnArwe, I don't understand 'trackbot, open ISSUE-9'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help ←
14:23:33 <Arnaud> issue-9 open
Arnaud Le Hors: ISSUE-9 open ←
14:24:03 <bblfish> open ISSUE-9
Henry Story: open ISSUE-9 ←
14:24:03 <oberger> the docs don't seem to mention opening them in http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc
Olivier Berger: the docs don't seem to mention opening them in http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc ←
14:24:11 <bblfish> reopen ISSUE-9
Henry Story: reopen ISSUE-9 ←
14:24:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-9 Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs? re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-9 Should properties used in BPR representations be BPRs? re-opened ←
14:24:24 <bblfish> Issue-10?
14:24:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-10 -- Include clarifications and guidance around ETags -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-10 -- Include clarifications and guidance around ETags -- raised ←
14:24:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/10
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/10 ←
14:24:49 <Kalpa> discussing issue 10, no objects to open issue 10
discussing ISSUE-10, no objects to open ISSUE-10 ←
14:24:50 <stevebattle> +1 important to distinguish between strong and weak etags
Steve Battle: +1 important to distinguish between strong and weak etags ←
14:24:57 <bblfish> Issue-11?
14:24:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-11 -- Do we need to define server-managed properties or do we leave them to applications? -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-11 -- Do we need to define server-managed properties or do we leave them to applications? -- raised ←
14:24:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/11
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/11 ←
14:25:57 <oberger> +1 for the MAY
Olivier Berger: +1 for the MAY ←
14:26:04 <Kalpa> no objects to open issue 11 and opening issue 11
no objects to open ISSUE-11 and opening ISSUE-11 ←
14:26:05 <SteveS> open ISSUE-11
Steve Speicher: open ISSUE-11 ←
14:26:18 <bblfish> reopen Issue-11
Henry Story: reopen ISSUE-11 ←
14:26:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-11 Do we need to define server-managed properties or do we leave them to applications? re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-11 Do we need to define server-managed properties or do we leave them to applications? re-opened ←
14:26:32 <bblfish> Issue-12?
14:26:32 <trackbot> ISSUE-12 -- Can HTTP PATCH be used for resource creation? -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-12 -- Can HTTP PATCH be used for resource creation? -- raised ←
14:26:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/12
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/12 ←
14:26:38 <bblfish> wait too quickly?
Henry Story: wait too quickly? ←
14:26:47 <Kalpa> opening issue 12 and moving to issue 13
opening ISSUE-12 and moving to ISSUE-13 ←
14:27:10 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-10
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-10 ←
14:27:10 <trackbot> ISSUE-10 Include clarifications and guidance around ETags re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-10 Include clarifications and guidance around ETags re-opened ←
14:27:17 <bblfish> Issue-13?
14:27:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-13 -- Include clarifications about BPC representations that include member triples -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-13 -- Include clarifications about BPC representations that include member triples -- raised ←
14:27:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/13
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/13 ←
14:27:17 <stevebattle> +1 interesting I have UC examples of resources being created as side effect of patch
Steve Battle: +1 interesting I have UC examples of resources being created as side effect of patch ←
14:27:52 <Kalpa> opening issue 13
14:27:57 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-12
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-12 ←
14:27:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-12 Can HTTP PATCH be used for resource creation? re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-12 Can HTTP PATCH be used for resource creation? re-opened ←
14:28:06 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-13
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-13 ←
14:28:07 <trackbot> ISSUE-13 Include clarifications about BPC representations that include member triples re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-13 Include clarifications about BPC representations that include member triples re-opened ←
14:28:09 <bblfish> Issue-14?
14:28:09 <trackbot> ISSUE-14 -- Include clarifications about ordering in BPC representations -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-14 -- Include clarifications about ordering in BPC representations -- raised ←
14:28:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/14
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/14 ←
14:29:22 <stevebattle> How are different ordering affordances defined?
Steve Battle: How are different ordering affordances defined? ←
14:29:38 <JohnArwe> it is the *representation* that is ordered, not the triples themselves
John Arwe: it is the *representation* that is ordered, not the triples themselves ←
14:31:05 <stevebattle> I guess if you want a semantic ordering you use a List
Steve Battle: I guess if you want a semantic ordering you use a List ←
14:32:11 <oberger> need a use case
Olivier Berger: need a use case ←
14:32:21 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:32:24 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-14
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-14 ←
14:32:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-14 Include clarifications about ordering in BPC representations re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-14 Include clarifications about ordering in BPC representations re-opened ←
14:32:32 <Kalpa> opening issue 14 for now and sicuss further later
opening ISSUE-14 for now and sicuss further later ←
14:32:40 <bblfish> Issue-15?
14:32:40 <trackbot> ISSUE-15 -- sharing binary resources and metadata -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-15 -- sharing binary resources and metadata -- raised ←
14:32:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/15
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/15 ←
14:32:50 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:32:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, bblfish.a, antonis, jkopecky, bblfish, Kalpa, ArthurK, oberger,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, nmihindu, svillata, stevebattle, ??P4, SteveS, rgarcia, ghard, JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, bblfish.a, antonis, jkopecky, bblfish, Kalpa, ArthurK, oberger, ←
14:32:53 <Zakim> ... AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: ... AndyS ←
14:33:30 <stevebattle> Does issue-15 relate to the use of wrds:describedby?
Steve Battle: Does ISSUE-15 relate to the use of wrds:describedby? ←
14:33:42 <Kalpa> issue 15 - what is a resource.
ISSUE-15 - what is a resource. ←
14:33:50 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-15
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-15 ←
14:33:50 <trackbot> ISSUE-15 sharing binary resources and metadata re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-15 sharing binary resources and metadata re-opened ←
14:33:58 <Kalpa> Arnaud: any disagreements for opening issue 15?
Arnaud Le Hors: any disagreements for opening ISSUE-15? ←
14:34:07 <Kalpa> no objects and opening issue 15
no objects and opening ISSUE-15 ←
14:35:00 <bblfish> Issue-15?
14:35:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-15 -- sharing binary resources and metadata -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-15 -- sharing binary resources and metadata -- open ←
14:35:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/15
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/15 ←
14:35:08 <Kalpa> opening issue 16
14:35:13 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-16
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-16 ←
14:35:14 <trackbot> ISSUE-16 Redirection of non-information resources to BPRs re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-16 Redirection of non-information resources to BPRs re-opened ←
14:35:23 <bblfish> Issue-16?
14:35:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-16 -- Redirection of non-information resources to BPRs -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-16 -- Redirection of non-information resources to BPRs -- open ←
14:35:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/16
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/16 ←
14:35:30 <bblfish> Issue-17?
14:35:30 <trackbot> ISSUE-17 -- changesets as a recommended PATCH format -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-17 -- changesets as a recommended PATCH format -- raised ←
14:35:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/17
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/17 ←
14:35:43 <bblfish> +1
Henry Story: +1 ←
14:35:54 <Zakim> -ArthurK
Zakim IRC Bot: -ArthurK ←
14:35:56 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
14:36:08 <rgarcia> +1
Raúl García Castro: +1 ←
14:36:34 <bblfish> Essentially one would want to take SPARQL update and turn it into a PATCH
Henry Story: Essentially one would want to take SPARQL update and turn it into a PATCH ←
14:36:38 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-17
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-17 ←
14:36:38 <trackbot> ISSUE-17 changesets as a recommended PATCH format re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-17 changesets as a recommended PATCH format re-opened ←
14:36:39 <Kalpa> Arnaud: is http patch in issue 17 is the same as from raul?
Arnaud Le Hors: is http patch in ISSUE-17 is the same as from raul? ←
14:36:39 <bblfish> no?
Henry Story: no? ←
14:36:43 <Zakim> -svillata
Zakim IRC Bot: -svillata ←
14:36:51 <bblfish> Issue-18?
14:36:51 <trackbot> ISSUE-18 -- container membership and robust pagination -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-18 -- container membership and robust pagination -- raised ←
14:36:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/18
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/18 ←
14:36:57 <Kalpa> issue 17 is a different issue and opening issue 17
ISSUE-17 is a different issue and opening ISSUE-17 ←
14:37:48 <AndyS> Why not status code 501?
Andy Seaborne: Why not status code 501? ←
14:41:22 <AndyS> In the LDA, the response has response metadata e.g. #pages. so you can go to last.
Andy Seaborne: In the LDA, the response has response metadata e.g. #pages. so you can go to last. ←
14:41:46 <Kalpa> opening issue 18
14:41:47 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-18
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-18 ←
14:41:47 <trackbot> ISSUE-18 container membership and robust pagination re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-18 container membership and robust pagination re-opened ←
14:41:56 <bblfish> Opening Issue-18 but not a big issue because URLs are in fact opaque. Should be easy to close
Henry Story: Opening ISSUE-18 but not a big issue because URLs are in fact opaque. Should be easy to close ←
14:42:03 <bblfish> Issue-19?
14:42:03 <trackbot> ISSUE-19 -- Adressing more error cases -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-19 -- Adressing more error cases -- raised ←
14:42:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/19
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/19 ←
14:42:17 <oberger> can't seem to unmute
Olivier Berger: can't seem to unmute ←
14:42:53 <AndyS> zakim, unmute oberger
Andy Seaborne: zakim, unmute oberger ←
14:42:53 <Zakim> oberger was not muted, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: oberger was not muted, AndyS ←
14:42:53 <Kalpa> Arnaud: issue 19 is important and there is not many links in the issue page
Arnaud Le Hors: ISSUE-19 is important and there is not many links in the issue page ←
14:43:20 <Zakim> +??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7 ←
14:43:52 <Kalpa> enough discussion in the mailing list and hence propose to open the issue 19
enough discussion in the mailing list and hence propose to open the ISSUE-19 ←
14:44:04 <Kalpa> no objects and opening issue 19
no objects and opening ISSUE-19 ←
14:44:05 <JohnArwe> thread 10/1-10/3 about 8 emails
John Arwe: thread 10/1-10/3 about 8 emails ←
14:44:06 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-19
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-19 ←
14:44:06 <trackbot> ISSUE-19 Adressing more error cases re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-19 Adressing more error cases re-opened ←
14:44:13 <bblfish> Issue-20?
14:44:13 <trackbot> ISSUE-20 -- Identifying and naming POSTed resources -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-20 -- Identifying and naming POSTed resources -- raised ←
14:44:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/20
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/20 ←
14:44:28 <JohnArwe> ...did not have issue # so nothing for tracker to latch onto
John Arwe: ...did not have issue # so nothing for tracker to latch onto ←
14:45:25 <bblfish> q?
Henry Story: q? ←
14:46:19 <bblfish> <>
Henry Story: <> ←
14:46:29 <bblfish> <> <#me>
Henry Story: <> <#me> ←
14:47:09 <oberger> <_POSTED_> ?
Olivier Berger: <_POSTED_> ? ←
14:47:23 <jkopecky> q? to ask if that's allowed
Jacek Kopecky: q? to ask if that's allowed ←
14:47:24 <SteveS> seems fine for RDF docs, what about if I want to name a non-RDF resource such as steve_profile.gif?
Steve Speicher: seems fine for RDF docs, what about if I want to name a non-RDF resource such as steve_profile.gif? ←
14:47:37 <jkopecky> q+ to ask if that's allowed
Jacek Kopecky: q+ to ask if that's allowed ←
14:47:46 <AndyS> It's the target of the request - ie. the HTTP container.
Andy Seaborne: It's the target of the request - ie. the HTTP container. ←
14:48:02 <jkopecky> q-
Jacek Kopecky: q- ←
14:48:15 <AndyS> but "willful violation" may be the right approach.
Andy Seaborne: but "willful violation" may be the right approach. ←
14:48:19 <bblfish> ok.
Henry Story: ok. ←
14:48:25 <bblfish> I'have to go early now.
Henry Story: I'have to go early now. ←
14:48:29 <bblfish> sorry
Henry Story: sorry ←
14:48:35 <Zakim> -bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←
14:48:49 <Kalpa> opening issue 20
14:49:53 <Kalpa> opening issue 21
14:49:53 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-20
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-20 ←
14:49:53 <trackbot> ISSUE-20 Identifying and naming POSTed resources re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-20 Identifying and naming POSTed resources re-opened ←
14:49:59 <SteveS> reopen ISSUE-21
Steve Speicher: reopen ISSUE-21 ←
14:49:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-21 container affordances re-opened
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-21 container affordances re-opened ←
14:50:37 <stevebattle> not comfortable with 'willfull vioation' !
Steve Battle: not comfortable with 'willfull violation' ! ←
14:51:31 <AndyS> Base URI determination -- RFC 3986 section 5.1
Andy Seaborne: Base URI determination -- RFC 3986 section 5.1 ←
14:51:32 <stevebattle> s/vioation/violation/
<Arnaud> topic: Specification
14:52:14 <Kalpa> Arnaud: today is the deadline to raise issues. If you find an issue you can and should still raise it but we may not have time to process it before publication and it will be at the editors' discretion whether they appear in the draft or not. Editors will annotate the draft with all open issues as of today.
Arnaud Le Hors: today is the deadline to raise issues. If you find an issue you can and should still raise it but we may not have time to process it before publication and it will be at the editors' discretion whether they appear in the draft or not. Editors will annotate the draft with all open issues as of today. ←
<Arnaud> Arnaud: Spec editors we are on track to have the spec in two weeks?
Arnaud Le Hors: Spec editors we are on track to have the spec in two weeks? [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
<Arnaud> SteveS: yes
Steve Speicher: yes [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
14:52:33 <oberger> again, what do we do with mhausenblas' editor chair ?
Olivier Berger: again, what do we do with mhausenblas' editor chair ? ←
14:52:41 <AndyS> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-5.1
Andy Seaborne: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-5.1 ←
14:53:02 <rgarcia> I sent an email about rewriting improvements, it is not a "serious issue" but I would take in into account
Raúl García Castro: I sent an email about rewriting improvements, it is not a "serious issue" but I would take in into account ←
14:53:33 <oberger> ah, my bad
Olivier Berger: ah, my bad ←
14:53:47 <oberger> mhausenblas only stepped down from use case
Olivier Berger: mhausenblas only stepped down from use case ←
14:53:55 <Kalpa> Topic: usecase and requirements
14:53:56 <Zakim> -??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P7 ←
<Arnaud> stevebattle: done with the initial pass
Steve Battle: done with the initial pass [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
14:54:25 <Kalpa> people need to review the document for mistakes
people need to review the document for mistakes ←
14:55:46 <Kalpa> 2 weeks for reviewing documents
2 weeks for reviewing documents ←
14:55:55 <oberger> and raising issues
Olivier Berger: and raising issues ←
<Arnaud> Arnaud: we will go through a process similar to what we are doing for the spec, people should raise issues they find and we will decide what to do with them
Arnaud Le Hors: we will go through a process similar to what we are doing for the spec, people should raise issues they find and we will decide what to do with them [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
<Arnaud> Arnaud: Regarding Michael stepping down as editor I believe we discussed this last week and you're ok with that for now?
Arnaud Le Hors: Regarding Michael stepping down as editor I believe we discussed this last week and you're ok with that for now? [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
<Arnaud> stevebattle: yes
Steve Battle: yes [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
<Arnaud> Arnaud: Ok, if you ever need help just let us know and we'll see to get someone else to help
Arnaud Le Hors: Ok, if you ever need help just let us know and we'll see to get someone else to help [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
<Arnaud> topic: Issue-8 Specification Name
14:56:29 <Kalpa> Arnaud: we ended last week's call discussing the issue with the name of the specification
Arnaud Le Hors: we ended last week's call discussing the issue with the name of the specification ←
14:56:39 <oberger> back to Issue-8
Olivier Berger: back to ISSUE-8 ←
<Arnaud> Arnaud: we really should resolve this before we publish our first draft, while several names have been proposed, I think we should stick with either the name of the member submission or the wg
Arnaud Le Hors: we really should resolve this before we publish our first draft, while several names have been proposed, I think we should stick with either the name of the member submission or the wg [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
14:56:55 <Kalpa> ... linked data profile or linked data platform
... linked data profile or linked data platform ←
14:57:15 <stevebattle> 'linked data platform' is my choice
Steve Battle: 'linked data platform' is my choice ←
14:57:22 <oberger> let's get drunk in Lyon and decide
Olivier Berger: let's get drunk in Lyon and decide ←
14:57:34 <SteveS> my proposal, which many seemed happy with last week, is 'Linked Data Platform"�'
Steve Speicher: my proposal, which many seemed happy with last week, is 'Linked Data Platform"�' ←
14:57:37 <rgarcia> My vote:
Raúl García Castro: My vote: ←
14:57:37 <rgarcia> Linked Data Platform Resource + Linked Data Platform Container (LDP Resource + LDP Container)
Raúl García Castro: Linked Data Platform Resource + Linked Data Platform Container (LDP Resource + LDP Container) ←
14:57:51 <oberger> damn it
Olivier Berger: damn it ←
14:58:35 <ghard> LOL
Yrjana Rankka: LOL ←
14:59:40 <stevebattle> +1 LDP Resource + LDP Container
Steve Battle: +1 LDP Resource + LDP Container ←
14:59:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 LDP Resource + Container
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 LDP Resource + Container ←
14:59:58 <Arnaud> strawpoll: use the name: linked data platform
STRAWPOLL: use the name: linked data platform ←
15:00:09 <oberger> +1 LDP Resource + LDP Container
Olivier Berger: +1 LDP Resource + LDP Container ←
15:00:20 <svillata> +1 LDP Resource + Container
Serena Villata: +1 LDP Resource + Container ←
15:00:33 <SteveS> +1 for LDP = Linked Data Platform
Steve Speicher: +1 for LDP = Linked Data Platform ←
15:00:43 <jkopecky> how about Linked Data Platform Specification (rather than just LD Platform)
Jacek Kopecky: how about Linked Data Platform Specification (rather than just LD Platform) ←
15:00:47 <SteveS> and LDP is the name of the spec
Steve Speicher: and LDP is the name of the spec ←
15:00:54 <Arnaud> +1
Arnaud Le Hors: +1 ←
15:01:03 <jkopecky> LDP would be short for Linked Data Platform Specification
Jacek Kopecky: LDP would be short for Linked Data Platform Specification ←
15:01:08 <stevebattle> Whatever Arnaud says.
Steve Battle: Whatever Arnaud says. ←
15:02:12 <jkopecky> LDP would be short for Linked Data Platform Specification
Jacek Kopecky: LDP would be short for Linked Data Platform Specification ←
15:02:24 <Zakim> -bblfish.a
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish.a ←
15:02:36 <rgarcia> An W3C recommendation is synonym to specification
Raúl García Castro: An W3C recommendation is synonym to specification ←
15:02:41 <SteveS> Proposal: LDP = Linked Data Platform for specification name, removing LDBP
PROPOSED: LDP = Linked Data Platform for specification name, removing LDBP ←
15:02:47 <oberger> Issue-8 pending review ?
Olivier Berger: ISSUE-8 pending review ? ←
15:03:10 <Kalpa> Arnaud: issue 8 is tentatively resolved, pending review, we will need to resolve it next week.
Arnaud Le Hors: ISSUE-8 is tentatively resolved, pending review, we will need to resolve it next week. ←
15:03:15 <jkopecky> raul, yes, but "W3C Recommendation" is a subtitle, so that's why I'd like to have "Spec" in the title there
Jacek Kopecky: raul, yes, but "W3C Recommendation" is a subtitle, so that's why I'd like to have "Spec" in the title there ←
15:03:42 <rgarcia> OK, can live with that. :)
Raúl García Castro: OK, can live with that. :) ←
15:03:55 <oberger> and let's get drunk in Lyon anyway ;)
Olivier Berger: and let's get drunk in Lyon anyway ;) ←
15:04:02 <jkopecky> do enjoy 8-)
Jacek Kopecky: do enjoy 8-) ←
<Arnaud> steves: will wait for final resolution to update the draft
Steve Speicher: will wait for final resolution to update the draft [ Scribe Assist by Arnaud Le Hors ] ←
15:04:22 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
15:04:27 <ghard> Cheers
Yrjana Rankka: Cheers ←
15:04:33 <oberger> bye
Olivier Berger: bye ←
15:04:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye
Bart van Leeuwen: bye ←
15:04:38 <svillata> bye
Serena Villata: bye ←
15:04:39 <Zakim> -oberger
Zakim IRC Bot: -oberger ←
15:04:39 <antonis> cheers- bye
Antonis Loizou: cheers- bye ←
15:04:40 <Zakim> -ghard
Zakim IRC Bot: -ghard ←
15:04:41 <Zakim> -SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←
15:04:42 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
15:04:42 <Zakim> -jkopecky
Zakim IRC Bot: -jkopecky ←
15:04:43 <Zakim> -rgarcia
Zakim IRC Bot: -rgarcia ←
15:04:43 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
15:04:44 <Zakim> -stevebattle
Zakim IRC Bot: -stevebattle ←
15:04:45 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:04:48 <Zakim> -antonis
Zakim IRC Bot: -antonis ←
15:04:49 <Arnaud> meeting adjourned
Arnaud Le Hors: meeting adjourned ←
15:04:50 <Zakim> -??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P4 ←
15:04:52 <Zakim> -Kalpa
Zakim IRC Bot: -Kalpa ←
15:04:54 <Zakim> -nmihindu
Zakim IRC Bot: -nmihindu ←
15:04:56 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
15:04:58 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.408.996.aaaa, Arnaud, SteveS, stevebattle, svillata, rgarcia, nmihindu, +1.845.433.aacc, ghard, BartvanLeeuwen, +44.208.573.aadd, JohnArwe, antonis, jkopecky,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.408.996.aaaa, Arnaud, SteveS, stevebattle, svillata, rgarcia, nmihindu, +1.845.433.aacc, ghard, BartvanLeeuwen, +44.208.573.aadd, JohnArwe, antonis, jkopecky, ←
15:05:01 <Zakim> ... bblfish, +1.937.775.aaee, ArthurK, Kalpa, oberger, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: ... bblfish, +1.937.775.aaee, ArthurK, Kalpa, oberger, AndyS ←
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