13:58:21 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/24-ldp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/24-ldp-irc ←
13:58:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
13:58:23 <sandro> trackbot, you have the worst parser I have ever seen.
Sandro Hawke: trackbot, you have the worst parser I have ever seen. ←
13:58:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP ←
13:58:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started ←
13:58:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:58:26 <trackbot> Date: 24 September 2012
13:58:26 <trackbot> Sorry, sandro, I don't understand 'trackbot, you have the worst parser I have ever seen.'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, sandro, I don't understand 'trackbot, you have the worst parser I have ever seen.'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help ←
13:58:27 <Zakim> +stevebattle
Zakim IRC Bot: +stevebattle ←
13:58:37 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
13:58:41 <Zakim> +Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud ←
13:58:43 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:58:47 <Zakim> +Ruben
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ruben ←
13:58:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben ←
13:58:51 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
13:58:53 <Ruben> zakim, mute me
Ruben Verborgh: zakim, mute me ←
13:58:55 <Zakim> Ruben should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ruben should now be muted ←
13:59:22 <svillata> zakim, ??P4 is me
Serena Villata: zakim, ??P4 is me ←
13:59:22 <Zakim> +svillata; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +svillata; got it ←
13:59:54 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok_Malhotra ←
14:00:02 <Zakim> +ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP ←
14:00:31 <Zakim> + +61.4.331.2.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +61.4.331.2.aaaa ←
14:00:43 <Zakim> +bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish ←
14:00:51 <Zakim> +dret
Zakim IRC Bot: +dret ←
14:00:58 <Zakim> +??P17
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17 ←
14:01:00 <ahaller2> zakim,+61.4.331.2.aaaa is me
Armin Haller: zakim,+61.4.331.2.aaaa is me ←
14:01:00 <Zakim> +ahaller2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ahaller2; got it ←
14:01:05 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
14:01:10 <Zakim> +??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19 ←
14:01:11 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
14:01:12 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←
14:01:13 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:01:13 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
14:01:21 <AndyS> zakim, ??P19 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P19 is me ←
14:01:21 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
14:01:29 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
14:01:46 <bblfish> zakim, who is here?
Henry Story: zakim, who is here? ←
14:01:47 <SteveS> zakim, [IBM] is me
Steve Speicher: zakim, [IBM] is me ←
14:01:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben (muted), svillata, Ashok_Malhotra, ericP, ahaller2, bblfish, dret, ??P17, MacTed (muted), AndyS, [IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben (muted), svillata, Ashok_Malhotra, ericP, ahaller2, bblfish, dret, ??P17, MacTed (muted), AndyS, [IBM] ←
14:01:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see jkopecky, bblfish, dret, Ruben, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, ahaller2, domel, svillata, AndyS, betehess, MacTed, stevebattle, nandana, oberger,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see jkopecky, bblfish, dret, Ruben, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, ahaller2, domel, svillata, AndyS, betehess, MacTed, stevebattle, nandana, oberger, ←
14:01:47 <Zakim> ... cgueret, ericP, trackbot, Yves, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... cgueret, ericP, trackbot, Yves, sandro ←
14:01:50 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
14:01:51 <oberger> zakim, ??P17 is me
Olivier Berger: zakim, ??P17 is me ←
14:01:53 <Zakim> +oberger; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +oberger; got it ←
14:02:18 <oberger> hi Arnaud
Olivier Berger: hi Arnaud ←
14:02:23 <Zakim> +??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←
14:02:38 <jkopecky> zakim, ??P22 is me
Jacek Kopecky: zakim, ??P22 is me ←
14:02:38 <Zakim> +jkopecky; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jkopecky; got it ←
14:03:22 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.208.573.aabb ←
14:03:37 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe ←
14:03:44 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:03:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben (muted), svillata, Ashok_Malhotra, ericP, ahaller2, bblfish, dret, oberger, MacTed (muted), AndyS, SteveS, jkopecky,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben (muted), svillata, Ashok_Malhotra, ericP, ahaller2, bblfish, dret, oberger, MacTed (muted), AndyS, SteveS, jkopecky, ←
14:03:47 <Zakim> ... +44.208.573.aabb, JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +44.208.573.aabb, JohnArwe ←
14:04:48 <Ashok_Malhotra> scribenick: Ashok_Malhotra
(Scribe set to Ashok Malhotra)
14:04:52 <sandro> zakim, aabb is RogerMenday
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aabb is RogerMenday ←
14:04:52 <Zakim> +RogerMenday; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +RogerMenday; got it ←
14:04:53 <Zakim> +Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves ←
14:05:09 <Ashok_Malhotra> Topic: Admin
14:05:17 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
14:05:37 <Ashok_Malhotra> Minutes of last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-09-17
Minutes of last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-09-17 ←
14:05:44 <SteveS> +1 Sept 17 minutes
Steve Speicher: +1 Sept 17 minutes ←
14:06:07 <Ashok_Malhotra> RESOLUTION: Minutes of last meeting approved
RESOLVED: Minutes of last meeting approved ←
14:06:13 <Zakim> +ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP ←
14:06:22 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud: Next meeting Oct 1
Arnaud Le Hors: Next meeting Oct 1 ←
14:06:43 <Ashok_Malhotra> Topic: f2f
14:06:45 <bblfish> q+ for TPAC
Henry Story: q+ for TPAC ←
14:06:54 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud: Please register for TPAC
Arnaud Le Hors: Please register for TPAC ←
14:07:24 <roger> I plan to come to the F2F (RogerMenday) on the Thursday, but unfortunately not the Friday.
Roger Menday: I plan to come to the F2F (RogerMenday) on the Thursday, but unfortunately not the Friday. ←
14:08:03 <Ashok_Malhotra> Sandro: 16 people registerede now ... I will ask for a larger room
Sandro Hawke: 16 people registered now ... I will ask for a larger room ←
14:08:17 <bblfish> that's bad interface on the html page (sometimes you cannot uncheck some buttons)
Henry Story: that's bad interface on the html page (sometimes you cannot uncheck some buttons) ←
14:08:39 <Ashok_Malhotra> s/registerede/registered/
14:08:53 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2012/SessionIdeas#WebID_and_RWWeb
Henry Story: http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2012/SessionIdeas#WebID_and_RWWeb ←
14:08:54 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:09:22 <Ashok_Malhotra> Henry: I put a session together for Wed that should interest folks
Henry Story: I put a session together for Wed that should interest folks ←
14:09:33 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish ←
14:09:33 <Zakim> bblfish, you wanted to discuss TPAC
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish, you wanted to discuss TPAC ←
14:09:57 <bblfish> rww & webid community Monday, Tuesday.
Henry Story: rww & webid community Monday, Tuesday. ←
14:11:13 <Zakim> + +1.937.279.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.279.aacc ←
14:11:17 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
14:11:50 <kalpa> zakim, aacc is me
Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:11:50 <Zakim> +kalpa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kalpa; got it ←
14:12:06 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud: There are a lot of meetings at TPAC so folks will have conflicts
Arnaud Le Hors: There are a lot of meetings at TPAC so folks will have conflicts ←
14:12:23 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice] ←
14:12:34 <Ashok_Malhotra> ... perhaps reserve a slot at LDP meeting
... perhaps reserve a slot at LDP meeting ←
14:12:52 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:12:56 <Ashok_Malhotra> ... for WebID
... for WebID ←
14:13:32 <Ashok_Malhotra> Topic: Open Actions
14:14:44 <Ashok_Malhotra> ACTION 10 is done ... close
14:14:44 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 10
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - 10 ←
14:15:04 <Ashok_Malhotra> Close ACTION-10
14:15:05 <trackbot> ACTION-10 Convert member submission to Editor's Draft, with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 Convert member submission to Editor's Draft, with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas closed ←
14:15:59 <Ashok_Malhotra> Close ACTION-12
14:15:59 <trackbot> ACTION-12 Define Turtle as the required serialization format for LDP closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-12 Define Turtle as the required serialization format for LDP closed ←
14:16:03 <oberger> What's GSP ?
Olivier Berger: What's GSP ? ←
14:16:33 <Zakim> +??P39
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P39 ←
14:16:34 <SteveS> GSP => Graph Store Protocol http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/
Steve Speicher: GSP => Graph Store Protocol http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/ ←
14:16:36 <sandro> GSP = SPARQL 1.1 HTTP Graph Store Protocol
Sandro Hawke: GSP = SPARQL 1.1 HTTP Graph Store Protocol ←
14:16:47 <ghard> Zakim, ??P39 is ghard
Yrjana Rankka: Zakim, ??P39 is ghard ←
14:16:47 <Zakim> +ghard; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ghard; got it ←
14:16:50 <oberger> thx SteveS and sandro
Olivier Berger: thx SteveS and sandro ←
14:17:06 <ghard> Sorry I'm late.
Yrjana Rankka: Sorry I'm late. ←
14:17:10 <Ashok_Malhotra> Close ACTION-13
14:17:10 <trackbot> ACTION-13 Add topic on wiki on LDP vs GSP on home page closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-13 Add topic on wiki on LDP vs GSP on home page closed ←
14:17:14 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Linked_Data_Platform_.28LDP.29_vs_SPARQL_Graph_Store_HTTP_Protocol_.28GSP.29
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Linked_Data_Platform_.28LDP.29_vs_SPARQL_Graph_Store_HTTP_Protocol_.28GSP.29 ←
14:17:15 <JohnArwe> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Linked_Data_Platform_.28LDP.29_vs_SPARQL_Graph_Store_HTTP_Protocol_.28GSP.29 is the topic; I just updated the action with this link too
John Arwe: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Linked_Data_Platform_.28LDP.29_vs_SPARQL_Graph_Store_HTTP_Protocol_.28GSP.29 is the topic; I just updated the action with this link too ←
14:17:31 <Ashok_Malhotra> Topic: Issues
14:18:57 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud explains issue process
Arnaud explains issue process ←
14:19:36 <bblfish> where is the URL for issue-2?
Henry Story: where is the URL for ISSUE-2? ←
14:19:45 <JohnArwe> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/2
John Arwe: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/2 ←
14:20:05 <Ashok_Malhotra> Andy: Issue-2 asks whether LDP will address versioning
Andy Seaborne: ISSUE-2 asks whether LDP will address versioning ←
14:20:11 <JohnArwe> (the agenda page has various links to the issues/actions lists)
John Arwe: (the agenda page has various links to the issues/actions lists) ←
14:20:45 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud: Keep it open
Arnaud Le Hors: Keep it open ←
14:20:49 <bblfish> +1 for use case
Henry Story: +1 for use case ←
14:21:03 <Ashok_Malhotra> Andy: Need use cases and scenarios
Andy Seaborne: Need use cases and scenarios ←
14:21:29 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud: Andy can you provide a usecase
Arnaud Le Hors: Andy can you provide a usecase ←
14:22:05 <Ashok_Malhotra> ACTION Andy to provide usecase for Issue-2
ACTION Andy to provide usecase for ISSUE-2 ←
14:22:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Provide usecase for Issue-2 [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-10-01].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-15 - Provide usecase for ISSUE-2 [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-10-01]. ←
14:22:16 <Ashok_Malhotra> Issue 2 is opened
14:22:26 <Ashok_Malhotra> Issue 3 is opened
14:25:24 <Ashok_Malhotra> Discussion on Issue 5
14:25:43 <Ashok_Malhotra> Yves: WG can decided to put explanatory text in Wiki
Yves Lafon: WG can decided to put explanatory text in Wiki ←
14:25:50 <dret> q+
Erik Wilde: q+ ←
14:25:55 <JohnArwe> positioning "feels" more like wiki content to me... GSP etc will evolve, moving targets, easier to update if outside of spec
John Arwe: positioning "feels" more like wiki content to me... GSP etc will evolve, moving targets, easier to update if outside of spec ←
14:26:20 <SteveS> agree with wiki or WG Note if it gets more content
Steve Speicher: agree with wiki or WG Note if it gets more content ←
14:26:38 <Ashok_Malhotra> Yves: We can even add a pointer from the WG home page
Yves Lafon: We can even add a pointer from the WG home page ←
14:26:45 <JohnArwe> +1 having spec point to wiki for positioning
John Arwe: +1 having spec point to wiki for positioning ←
14:26:50 <Yves> FAQ entry
Yves Lafon: FAQ entry ←
14:27:01 <Ashok_Malhotra> q+
q+ ←
14:27:46 <Arnaud> ack dret
Arnaud Le Hors: ack dret ←
14:27:48 <AndyS> ack dret
Andy Seaborne: ack dret ←
14:27:52 <Arnaud> ack Ashok
Arnaud Le Hors: ack Ashok ←
14:28:01 <stevebattle> q+
Steve Battle: q+ ←
14:28:03 <dret> q-
Erik Wilde: q- ←
14:28:14 <dret> q+
Erik Wilde: q+ ←
14:28:27 <Arnaud> ack steve
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steve ←
14:28:44 <stevebattle> q-
Steve Battle: q- ←
14:28:49 <Ashok_Malhotra> Ashok: We could ask Schema WG if they have any thoughts on this
Ashok Malhotra: We could ask Schema WG if they have any thoughts on this ←
14:29:12 <SteveS> +1 for moving ISSUE-6 to open, as was going to raise as well based on previous feedback/discussion with bblfish
Steve Speicher: +1 for moving ISSUE-6 to open, as was going to raise as well based on previous feedback/discussion with bblfish ←
14:29:22 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-xsch-datatypes/ (XML Schema Datatypes in RDF and OWL)
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-xsch-datatypes/ (XML Schema Datatypes in RDF and OWL) ←
14:29:47 <Ashok_Malhotra> Discussion on linking emails to issues
Discussion on linking emails to issues ←
14:30:30 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:30:35 <Ashok_Malhotra> Yves: The bot should take care of it
Yves Lafon: The bot should take care of it ←
14:30:53 <Ashok_Malhotra> Eric: Should have issue in title
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Should have issue in title ←
14:31:58 <dret> q-
Erik Wilde: q- ←
14:32:07 <Ashok_Malhotra> Open Issue-6
14:32:12 <JohnArwe> NP keeping the issue open, not sure I'd read LDBP to prohibit the use of user-defined data types (as an extension). I thought it said only define specs in terms of a relatively small set of types that "everyone" should be able to support using OTS parts.
John Arwe: NP keeping the issue open, not sure I'd read LDBP to prohibit the use of user-defined data types (as an extension). I thought it said only define specs in terms of a relatively small set of types that "everyone" should be able to support using OTS parts. ←
14:32:32 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:32:40 <JohnArwe> ... User-defined types could still be annotated through additional rdf:type predicates.
John Arwe: ... User-defined types could still be annotated through additional rdf:type predicates. ←
14:32:50 <Ashok_Malhotra> Topic: Use Cases and Requirements
14:33:41 <bblfish> Don't think you can use rdf:type for datatypes.
Henry Story: Don't think you can use rdf:type for datatypes. ←
14:33:51 <bblfish> A datatype is a function from a literal to a thing.
Henry Story: A datatype is a function from a literal to a thing. ←
14:34:06 <Ashok_Malhotra> SteveBattle: Will add usecases in 2 weeks and create editors draft just ahead of the meeting
Steve Battle: Will add usecases in 2 weeks and create editors draft just ahead of the meeting ←
14:34:06 <bblfish> xsd:Int("2") = 2
Henry Story: xsd:Int("2") = 2 ←
14:34:16 <JohnArwe> ah ... "only" ... limiting, yes
John Arwe: ah ... "only" ... limiting, yes ←
14:34:59 <Ashok_Malhotra> ... and add any issues raised to tracker by Oct 8
... and add any issues raised to tracker by Oct 8 ←
14:35:04 <bblfish> xsd:hexBinary("ad3") = xsd:int("2771") = 2771
Henry Story: xsd:hexBinary("ad3") = xsd:int("2771") = 2771 ←
14:35:22 <bblfish> that would be completely different from saying "ad3" is a HexBinary.
Henry Story: that would be completely different from saying "ad3" is a HexBinary. ←
14:36:34 <JohnArwe> @bblfish: parse error ;-)
John Arwe: @bblfish: parse error ;-) ←
14:37:03 <bblfish> using the usual functional notation
Henry Story: using the usual functional notation ←
14:37:10 <Ashok_Malhotra> Discussion on coordination between editors on Usecases document
Discussion on coordination between editors on Usecases document ←
14:37:44 <bblfish> "ad3"^^xsd:hexBinary is a function from strings to ( heu, binaries not numbers, so true my above example was wrong )
Henry Story: "ad3"^^xsd:hexBinary is a function from strings to ( heu, binaries not numbers, so true my above example was wrong ) ←
14:37:57 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
<Ashok_Malhotra> Topic: Namespace and shortname to be used in spec
14:38:39 <oberger> +1 for shortname 'ldbp'
Olivier Berger: +1 for shortname 'ldbp' ←
14:38:59 <sandro> no required connection between specs and namespaces.
Sandro Hawke: no required connection between specs and namespaces. ←
14:39:13 <bblfish> you need a name for the ontology too right?
Henry Story: you need a name for the ontology too right? ←
14:39:14 <Yves> use http://www.w3.org/2012/09/<cute name> until is stabilize
Yves Lafon: use http://www.w3.org/2012/09/<cute name> until is stabilize ←
14:39:28 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp ←
14:39:57 <Ashok_Malhotra> Discussion of document URIs
Discussion of document URIs ←
14:40:05 <oberger> http://www.w3.org/ns/ldbp ?
Olivier Berger: http://www.w3.org/ns/ldbp ? ←
14:40:44 <SteveS> +1 to going with /ns/ now with appropriate "draft" disclaimer
Steve Speicher: +1 to going with /ns/ now with appropriate "draft" disclaimer ←
14:40:55 <AndyS> Have has a dated URI ever been updated? (successfully)
Andy Seaborne: Have has a dated URI ever been updated? (successfully) ←
14:41:14 <bblfish> It depends a bit how much you think it is going to change
Henry Story: It depends a bit how much you think it is going to change ←
14:41:50 <bblfish> can one have a redirect from one namespace to another?
Henry Story: can one have a redirect from one namespace to another? ←
14:42:12 <stevebattle> I prefer LDP over LDBP.
Steve Battle: I prefer LDP over LDBP. ←
14:42:16 <dret> nope, renaming them does not exist as a concept.
Erik Wilde: nope, renaming them does not exist as a concept. ←
14:42:32 <Ashok_Malhotra> +1 to LDP
+1 to LDP ←
14:43:34 <bblfish> what's the b for?
Henry Story: what's the b for? ←
14:43:40 <bblfish> ah basic
Henry Story: ah basic ←
14:43:52 <bblfish> is this for the ontology btw?
Henry Story: is this for the ontology btw? ←
14:44:10 <SteveS> LDP => Linked Data Platform (our WG name), LDBP => Linked Data Basic Profile (member submission name)
Steve Speicher: LDP => Linked Data Platform (our WG name), LDBP => Linked Data Core Profile (member submission name) ←
14:44:13 <oberger> basic profile doesn't convey anything for me
Olivier Berger: basic profile doesn't convey anything for me ←
14:44:18 <ahaller2> +1 to LDP
Armin Haller: +1 to LDP ←
14:44:31 <svillata> +1 to LDP
Serena Villata: +1 to LDP ←
14:44:35 <oberger> user profile ?
Olivier Berger: user profile ? ←
14:45:01 <oberger> like BPR or BPC isn't easily identifiable to Linked Data Resource
Olivier Berger: like BPR or BPC isn't easily identifiable to Linked Data Resource ←
14:45:07 <dret> think arnaud is right: we might have more than one spec, so just "using up" our WG name may be a bit premature
Erik Wilde: think arnaud is right: we might have more than one spec, so just "using up" our WG name may be a bit premature ←
14:45:14 <MacTed> +1 LDP if "basic" is needed we could go /ns/ldp-basic or /ns/ldp/basic or some such
Ted Thibodeau: +1 LDP if "basic" is needed we could go /ns/ldp-basic or /ns/ldp/basic or some such ←
14:46:30 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:46:55 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud: People seem to favor LDP for shortname
Arnaud Le Hors: People seem to favor LDP for shortname ←
14:47:15 <bblfish> you could have ldp/basic
Henry Story: you could have ldp/basic ←
14:47:18 <bblfish> ldp/advanced
Henry Story: ldp/advanced ←
14:47:30 <bblfish> ldp/maddeninglyComplex
Henry Story: ldp/maddeninglyComplex ←
14:47:33 <oberger> Linux Documentation Project
Olivier Berger: Linux Documentation Project ←
14:47:35 <oberger> ;-)
Olivier Berger: ;-) ←
14:47:36 <bblfish> ldp/ont/
Henry Story: ldp/ont/ ←
14:47:50 <ericP> don't forget about ETLAs
Eric Prud'hommeaux: don't forget about ETLAs ←
14:47:59 <sandro> The Linux Documentation Project
Sandro Hawke: The Linux Documentation Project ←
14:48:05 <bblfish> well ldp, is going to replace the Linux Documentation project ;-)
Henry Story: well ldp, is going to replace the Linux Documentation project ;-) ←
14:48:22 <sandro> STRAWPOLL: use ldp for namespace name
STRAWPOLL: use ldp for namespace name ←
14:48:24 <sandro> +1 ldp
Sandro Hawke: +1 ldp ←
14:48:28 <ericP> +1 to ldp
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 to ldp ←
14:48:29 <jkopecky> +1 LDP
Jacek Kopecky: +1 LDP ←
14:48:32 <stevebattle> +1 ldp
Steve Battle: +1 ldp ←
14:48:32 <oberger> so how do we name BPRs and BPCs ?
Olivier Berger: so how do we name BPRs and BPCs ? ←
14:48:34 <bblfish> Liberal Democrat Party
Henry Story: Liberal Democrat Party ←
14:48:39 <Yves> ~0
Yves Lafon: ~0 ←
14:48:56 <dret> zero objections
Erik Wilde: zero objections ←
14:48:58 <bblfish> Lucky Duck Productions
Henry Story: Lucky Duck Productions ←
14:49:02 <SteveS> no objection
Steve Speicher: no objection ←
14:49:29 <sandro> +1 ns/ldp
Sandro Hawke: +1 ns/ldp ←
14:49:37 <Ashok_Malhotra> RESOLUTION: use ldp for namespace name
RESOLVED: use ldp for namespace name ←
14:49:40 <SteveS> jkopecky: not a bad suggestion
Jacek Kopecky: not a bad suggestion [ Scribe Assist by Steve Speicher ] ←
14:49:48 <stevebattle> "/ns/ldp/bpr" "/ns/ldp/bpc" ?
Steve Battle: "/ns/ldp/bpr" "/ns/ldp/bpc" ? ←
14:49:55 <JohnArwe> * too bad there's a D in there, LP would be great for the (Monty Python reference warning) Looney Party
John Arwe: * too bad there's a D in there, LP would be great for the (Monty Python reference warning) Looney Party ←
14:50:17 <jkopecky> (ldp) basic resource, (ldp) basic collection
Jacek Kopecky: (ldp) basic resource, (ldp) basic collection ←
14:50:26 <jkopecky> ldp/br ldp/bc
Jacek Kopecky: ldp/br ldp/bc ←
14:50:49 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:51:00 <oberger> LDBR and LDBC
Olivier Berger: LDBR and LDBC ←
14:51:08 <oberger> (container / collection ?)
Olivier Berger: (container / collection ?) ←
14:51:29 <oberger> s/Basic/Core/ ?
14:52:10 <SteveS> oberger and jkopecky I have opinions and some history why things like container were used, trying to listen to discussion though
Steve Speicher: oberger and jkopecky I have opinions and some history why things like container were used, trying to listen to discussion though ←
14:52:44 <bblfish> I think for the ontology it makes sense to have a stable namespace
Henry Story: I think for the ontology it makes sense to have a stable namespace ←
14:52:56 <stevebattle> +1 undated /ns/
Steve Battle: +1 undated /ns/ ←
14:53:36 <sandro> Arnaud: If anyone supports using a dated URL for development, please speak up and argue for it....
Arnaud Le Hors: If anyone supports using a dated URL for development, please speak up and argue for it.... [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:54:00 <JohnArwe> aside from adding a dollop of work on all document owners (editor of specs, test cases) to make One More Change at some future date, what's the Advantage of changing dated ns's?
John Arwe: aside from adding a dollop of work on all document owners (editor of specs, test cases) to make One More Change at some future date, what's the Advantage of changing dated ns's? ←
14:54:06 <Ashok_Malhotra> Eric: Re. document URIs ... we don't yet know how the material will be factored out
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Re. document URIs ... we don't yet know how the material will be factored out ←
14:55:03 <sandro> sandro: I think it's okay to use LDP for now and if we change our mind later on, that's okay. Leave /ns/ldp as *unused* if we are done with it.
Sandro Hawke: I think it's okay to use LDP for now and if we change our mind later on, that's okay. Leave /ns/ldp as *unused* if we are done with it. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:55:05 <oberger> is anyone implementing really ?
Olivier Berger: is anyone implementing really ? ←
14:55:13 <MacTed> real placeholders should be example.com/ns/...
Ted Thibodeau: real placeholders should be example.com/ns/... ←
14:56:41 <oberger> \o/
Olivier Berger: \o/ ←
14:56:53 <bblfish> the WebID cert ontology is in ns http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#
Henry Story: the WebID cert ontology is in ns http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert# ←
14:57:06 <bblfish> and we chnaged it a bit - removing some terms, adding others
Henry Story: and we chnaged it a bit - removing some terms, adding others ←
14:57:21 <SteveS> +1 for /ns/ldp/
Steve Speicher: +1 for /ns/ldp/ ←
14:57:33 <sandro> action: eric to confirm with W3C director that if we use /ns/ldp now, we'll be allowed to change to a different /ns/ later if there's a good reason.
ACTION: eric to confirm with W3C director that if we use /ns/ldp now, we'll be allowed to change to a different /ns/ later if there's a good reason. ←
14:57:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Confirm with W3C director that if we use /ns/ldp now, we'll be allowed to change to a different /ns/ later if there's a good reason. [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2012-10-01].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-16 - Confirm with W3C director that if we use /ns/ldp now, we'll be allowed to change to a different /ns/ later if there's a good reason. [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2012-10-01]. ←
14:57:56 <stevebattle> I note that Eric's recent issue-6 test email has not been added as a related email yet.
Steve Battle: I note that Eric's recent ISSUE-6 test email has not been added as a related email yet. ←
14:58:32 <Ashok_Malhotra> Arnaud: AOB?
Arnaud Le Hors: AOB? ←
14:58:34 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:58:48 <Ashok_Malhotra> MEETING ADJOURNED
MEETING ADJOURNED ←
14:58:50 <ghard> Cheers
Yrjana Rankka: Cheers ←
14:58:59 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
14:59:01 <Zakim> -RogerMenday
Zakim IRC Bot: -RogerMenday ←
14:59:04 <dret> thanks ashok, thanks arnaud!
Erik Wilde: thanks ashok, thanks arnaud! ←
14:59:06 <Zakim> -Ruben
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14:59:10 <Zakim> -kalpa
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14:59:12 <Zakim> -dret
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14:59:15 <oberger> bye all
Olivier Berger: bye all ←
14:59:17 <Zakim> -ghard
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14:59:19 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra ←
14:59:20 <Zakim> -stevebattle
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14:59:20 <Zakim> -SteveS
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14:59:21 <Zakim> -MacTed
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14:59:23 <Zakim> -AndyS
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14:59:25 <Zakim> -ericP
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14:59:27 <Zakim> -jkopecky
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14:59:29 <Zakim> -Yves
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14:59:31 <Zakim> -Sandro
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14:59:33 <Zakim> -Arnaud
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14:59:35 <Zakim> -ahaller2
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14:59:37 <Zakim> -bblfish
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14:59:43 <Zakim> -oberger
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14:59:49 <Zakim> -svillata
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14:59:51 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
14:59:53 <Zakim> Attendees were stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben, svillata, Ashok_Malhotra, ericP, bblfish, dret, ahaller2, MacTed, AndyS, SteveS, oberger, jkopecky, +44.208.573.aabb, JohnArwe,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were stevebattle, Sandro, Arnaud, Ruben, svillata, Ashok_Malhotra, ericP, bblfish, dret, ahaller2, MacTed, AndyS, SteveS, oberger, jkopecky, +44.208.573.aabb, JohnArwe, ←
14:59:56 <Zakim> ... RogerMenday, Yves, +1.937.279.aacc, kalpa, ghard
Zakim IRC Bot: ... RogerMenday, Yves, +1.937.279.aacc, kalpa, ghard ←
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