IRC log of html-media on 2012-10-23

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be 63342
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ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 15 minutes
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Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 23 October 2012
14:45:30 [matt]
zakim, ping me in 15 minutes
14:45:30 [Zakim]
ok, matt
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HTML_WG()11:00AM has now started
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+ +1.650.525.aaaa
14:58:22 [pal]
zakim, i am aaaa
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+pal; got it
14:58:40 [paulc]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Oct/0053.html
14:59:23 [matt]
zakim, dial matt-voip
14:59:23 [Zakim]
ok, matt; the call is being made
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+Matt
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14:59:55 [matt]
zakim, who is on the phone?
14:59:56 [Zakim]
On the phone I see pal, Matt
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+[Microsoft]
15:00:19 [adrianba]
zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc,adrianba
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+ +1.415.867.aabb
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+paulc, adrianba; got it
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+[GVoice]
15:00:30 [Zakim]
matt, you asked to be pinged at this time
15:00:59 [matt]
zakim, mute me
15:00:59 [Zakim]
Matt should now be muted
15:01:03 [matt]
zakim, unmute me
15:01:03 [Zakim]
Matt should no longer be muted
15:01:11 [strobe]
Zakim, +1.415.867 is me
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+strobe; got it
15:01:17 [matt]
zakim, mute me
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Matt should now be muted
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+[Microsoft.a]
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ScribeNick: adrianba
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Scribe: Adrian Bateman
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Chair: Paul Cotton
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Oct/0053.html
15:01:53 [johnsim]
zakim, who is on the phone
15:01:53 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the phone', johnsim
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zakim, who is on the phone?
15:02:01 [Zakim]
On the phone I see pal, Matt (muted), [Microsoft], strobe, [GVoice], [Microsoft.a]
15:02:03 [Zakim]
[Microsoft] has paulc, adrianba
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zakim, [Microsoft.a] is johnsim
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+johnsim; got it
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15:02:40 [strobe]
(wait, I may be GVoice instead, let me reassociate)
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+Aaron_Colwell
15:03:23 [adrianba]
zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:23 [Zakim]
On the phone I see pal, Matt (muted), [Microsoft], strobe, [GVoice], johnsim, Aaron_Colwell
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[Microsoft] has paulc, adrianba
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Present+ markw
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TOPIC: Roll call, introductions, selection of scribe
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paulc: done
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TOPIC: Previous meeting minutes
15:04:06 [Zakim]
+ +1.303.661.aacc
15:04:19 [adrianba]
paulc: the most significant thing was that we agreed to triage bugs and Aaron indicated he would update the spec
15:04:19 [Clarke]
zakim, aacc is me
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+Clarke; got it
15:04:25 [adrianba]
... these are on the agenda
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TOPIC: Review of action items
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ACTION-6?
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ACTION-6 -- Aaron Colwell to give a couple of examples for section 2 -- due 2012-09-04 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/6
15:04:52 [adrianba]
paulc: this is still outstanding, correct?
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+ +1.613.491.aadd
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zakim, aadd is me
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acolwell: we discussed this amongst the editors but not shared anything public
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+MartinSoukup; got it
15:05:17 [adrianba]
ACTION-6 due nov 1
15:05:17 [trackbot]
ACTION-6 Give a couple of examples for section 2 due date now nov 1
15:05:28 [Zakim]
+ +1.425.202.aaee
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TOPIC: Baseline documents and Bugzilla information
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http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/media-source/media-source.html
15:05:43 [ddorwin]
zakim, aaee is me
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+ddorwin; got it
15:05:53 [adrianba]
paulc: Last updated Oct 18
15:05:58 [adrianba]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Oct/0039.html
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paulc: aaron do you want to say anything about this?
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acolwell: the changes might be surprising because i split up the algorithm a bit to make it easier to understand
15:07:00 [matt]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:07:10 [Zakim]
matt, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [Microsoft] (7%), Aaron_Colwell (73%), MartinSoukup (49%), ddorwin (25%)
15:07:31 [adrianba]
... there isn't really a functional change - should just take a look at this change
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... added initial description of remove()
15:08:19 [adrianba]
... doing more to this is on the agenda for tpac
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zakim, who is noisy?
15:09:02 [paulc]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:09:04 [Zakim]
adrianba, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [Microsoft] (37%), Aaron_Colwell (63%), MartinSoukup (54%), ddorwin (52%)
15:09:15 [Zakim]
paulc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [Microsoft] (37%), johnsim (5%), Aaron_Colwell (5%), ddorwin (64%)
15:09:19 [adrianba]
zakim, mute MartinSoukup
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MartinSoukup should now be muted
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acolwell: also updated media format section with more clarifications
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TOPIC: TPAC F2F discussion plans
15:10:58 [adrianba]
paulc: two weeks ago the editors proposed to triage the existing bugs
15:11:04 [adrianba]
... they've done this
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... the attachment to the mail from the editors indicates the current status of bugs broken down into clarifications or new features
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... and identifies the ones we want to discuss
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paulc: the first observation we should make is that the editors have resolved some of the bugs
15:12:57 [adrianba]
... the majority of the new features are on the TPAC discussion list
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... i don't think we need to drill on the bugs resolved
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... one or more were resolved NEEDSINFO
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... let's deal with them at a high level
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acolwell: 18922, request to have a better example that is codec and format agnostic
15:14:24 [adrianba]
... initially responded that the API expects you to know the format, resolved asking for a better example that you'd like to see since we don't think we can do this
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... but please give an example of what you'd like to see
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acolwell: 18921, we think this is a misunderstanding of the goal of the API - this was requested adding arbitrary media data but the API requires you to know something about the data
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acolwell: 18920, we discussed this on the call and the consensus was to keep the type parameter to allow UAs to fail fast
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+ +1.408.536.aaff
15:16:01 [adrianba]
acolwell: 17000, we decided to defer this one because we don't have a great idea of what this should entail
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acolwell: those are all the ones resolved
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paulc: my plan is that we won't revisit these at TPAC - if anyone has objections to the resolutions then they should reopen the bug with their problem statement
15:16:52 [joesteele]
Zakim, aaff is joesteele
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+joesteele; got it
15:16:56 [adrianba]
... next we should go on to the items for discussion at TPAC
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acolwell: 18592, how much data to ensure uninterrupted playback
15:17:29 [adrianba]
... this is about how appending data to the sourcebuffer affects the HTML media element readystate
15:17:50 [adrianba]
... some discussion in the bug, there are trade-offs between different solutions, which we should discuss
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... this might affect autoplay, for example, and we need to decide if and how to handle this
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acolwell: 18575, this is related to ACTION-6
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... i sent something to the editors about this, which i can publish beforehand to help the discussion
15:19:05 [adrianba]
... some parts of section 2 are covered by algorithms and might be deleted
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... other parts might be moved to other areas
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... and some we need to figure out how to rewrite them
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... then we can discuss including at TPAC
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... the main thing is to understand the balance between normative and informative
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paulc: let's get that out quickly
15:20:13 [adrianba]
acolwell: that's fine - it's basically a copy and paste
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acolwell: 18601, this is the topic from a couple of calls ago
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... main goal is to close this discussion
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... particularly about how to handle transport streams
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acolwell: 18960, specifying how track IDs are generated
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paulc: does the bug here point to the HTML5 bug?
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acolwell: no, i'll find that - i think the bug is relevant to 17002
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... this got deferred to HTML.next
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paulc: i wonder if we should ask for that bug to be discussed by HTML WG as a whole
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... because we don't want the media topics discussed if we need that discussed by a broader group
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acolwell: that's fine
15:23:05 [acolwell]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18971
15:23:09 [adrianba]
paulc: if we have the bug number we can organise that
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acolwell: discussion for 18960 is to figure out how to generate the IDs
15:23:48 [adrianba]
... in some cases can be the track ID in the media
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... for single video/audio track media we need to define the behaviour
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... two proposals, one is to generate IDs, one is to use the first
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acolwell: 19531, this is a recently filed bug about detecting which MIME types are actually supported by MSE
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... proposal in the bug and discussion about the name and semantics of the method
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... just need to nail this down, shouldn't take too long
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acolwell: so those are the ones in the clarification category
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... in the new features category
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+Mark_Vickers
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acolwell: 18962, a mechanism for rate limiting where the tag can tell the app to slow down
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15:25:54 [adrianba]
... not much discussion about this, discussion for TPAC is if we need this in v1
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... and if yes to come up with a proposal
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... questions so far?
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paulc: nobody on the queue
15:26:34 [Zakim]
-Mark_Vickers
15:26:43 [adrianba]
.. btw updated the TPAC wiki to mention 18971 - we might have a session to deal with misc bugs
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+Mark_Vickers
15:27:03 [adrianba]
acolwell: 18962, this is making progress on the XHR integration with MSE
15:27:13 [adrianba]
... since the last time we discussed there is progress on the webapps
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... with people starting to rally around the microsoft proposal
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... there is some discussion about how the W3C spec will get updated
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... and behaviours about what MSE should do with this object
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acolwell: 18709, about SourceBuffer.remove() that i recently added
15:28:15 [adrianba]
... need to discuss the behaviour if remove is requested for current playback range
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... not clear what to do if the app wants to remove content at the current position
15:29:06 [adrianba]
acolwell: 17006, this is about specifying the track language and kind when not available
15:29:29 [adrianba]
adrianba: i will make a proposal prior to TPAC so we have something concrete to discuss
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... i think we know what the problem is and what is needed - we just need someone to make a concrete proposal and i will do that
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acolwell: 17002, this is how to figure out which buffer is associated with a track - think we have a rough proposal that we need to finalise
15:31:03 [adrianba]
... track might not have an ID and we need to figure out what to do as a workaround
15:31:36 [adrianba]
acolwell: 17094, this is to talk about MPEG2-TS - get some face to face discussion on this
15:31:46 [adrianba]
... there has been some email discussion but some face to face discussion might help it go easier
15:32:05 [adrianba]
paulc: do the editors know how long it will take to discuss these? will 90 mins be sufficient or will we need more time
15:32:24 [adrianba]
acolwell: i think we might need more - can we have an optional extension?
15:32:43 [adrianba]
paulc: we won't necessarily be able to tell until we see what slots are needed
15:32:55 [adrianba]
... interestingly many a11y people will be in indieui
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... which in the past we spent a lot of time on
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... i don't think that will happen this time
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... if there is time we might want to extend the slot but we'll need to do that there
15:33:36 [paulc]
F2F topics: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/TPAC2012#Topics
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q+
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acolwell: we should also take a poll of people at the meeting to discuss the highest priority items
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-Mark_Vickers
15:34:20 [adrianba]
paulc: pierre, your items, first audio splicing
15:34:24 [paulc]
MSE audio splicing: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Oct/0052.html
15:34:31 [adrianba]
pal: the idea here is that given the scope of MSE and use cases considered
15:34:47 [adrianba]
... it would be good to try to look at a topic previously frustrating
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... which is the splicing of audio or transition of audio streams at splice points
15:35:09 [adrianba]
... for video you transition at video frame boundary
15:35:29 [adrianba]
... but audio is more difficult, for example if the audio levels are different
15:35:33 [Zakim]
+Mark_Vickers
15:35:41 [adrianba]
... for encoded audio the frame boundaries might not line up
15:35:59 [adrianba]
... so goal is to capture some practices that have been learned and share with implementers
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... i think it would be help to have something along those lines provided to MSE implementers
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q+
15:36:54 [paulc]
ack adrian
15:37:32 [adrianba]
adrianba: is this proposal for informative text or should part of it be normative?
15:37:53 [adrianba]
pal: that's up to this group - either could work, i don't have an extremely strong opinion
15:38:10 [adrianba]
... just listing them will reduce poor implementation and lack of interop
15:38:30 [adrianba]
adrianba: if this would affect interop it sounds like there would be normative parts
15:38:52 [adrianba]
acolwell: i've only done a high level review - seems like some of the parts of splicing encoded data would be good to be normative
15:39:01 [adrianba]
... current text is light on this topic
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... but haven't drilled into which text should be normative
15:39:23 [adrianba]
paulc: do we want to do anything on this before the meeting?
15:39:33 [adrianba]
acolwell: i plan to read the doc more carefully
15:39:44 [adrianba]
... i haven't spent much time thinking about audio
15:39:59 [adrianba]
pal: my recommendation is that this be included or be considered before FPWD
15:40:13 [adrianba]
... the longer we wait the more likely decisions that people might regret could be made
15:40:28 [adrianba]
... some might not be relevant, some might need more detail, i'm happy to help
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... but it should be addressed before FPWD
15:40:55 [adrianba]
paulc: what's the rationale for that? is it because of the scope
15:41:13 [adrianba]
pal: i think implementers might take decisions
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q+
15:41:22 [adrianba]
... that might be hard to undo
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paulc: for fpwd you only have to have agreement to publish not to that on the content
15:41:52 [adrianba]
pal: it's better to have a better FPWD
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paulc: i'm not arguing against, just trying to understand
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ack adrian
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q+
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ack Mark
15:43:26 [adrianba]
adrianba: i think we should prioritise identifying the normative parts for the FPWD so that the scope is set
15:43:34 [adrianba]
... that's the most important activity for this
15:44:06 [adrianba]
Mark_Vickers: it's not clear which parts are authoring and client parts, could that be clearer?
15:44:16 [adrianba]
acolwell: i think they're all UA requirements
15:44:28 [adrianba]
Mark_Vickers: in 2.1 it says content should be authored
15:44:36 [adrianba]
pal: it was meant as a client recommendation
15:44:45 [adrianba]
... you're right that there are two points that menton authoring
15:44:53 [adrianba]
... but that is meant as a help to the reader
15:45:09 [adrianba]
... but this was meant as client behaviour which would then drive authoring behaviour
15:45:14 [adrianba]
Mark_Vickers: okay, thanks
15:45:34 [adrianba]
pal: important part is that unless some of these are documented for client authors will not know how to get the desired outcome
15:45:48 [adrianba]
Mark_Vickers: i think there's a lot of experience to show that this has caused problems in the past
15:45:55 [adrianba]
... and i support the idea of getting this out earlier
15:46:07 [adrianba]
paulc: next item is timestamp offset accurary
15:46:13 [paulc]
See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Oct/0054.html
15:46:26 [adrianba]
pal: before that, part of outcome of splicing is benefit of adding flag to each buffer appended
15:46:38 [adrianba]
... so may need to add a flag to buffers but we can discuss as part of document
15:46:59 [adrianba]
paulc: okay, let's move on to timestamp offset accuracy, which you've had one reply to
15:47:06 [adrianba]
pal: this has cause problems in the past
15:47:20 [adrianba]
... offsets are often specified in sample durations
15:47:47 [adrianba]
... unfortunately floating point representation cannot in general represent fractions because of rounding errors
15:48:16 [adrianba]
... this is a tricky area and direction i've seen is to express offset and positions as rational numbers instead of floating point numbers
15:48:23 [adrianba]
... MSE uses double for the offsets
15:48:33 [strobe]
q++
15:48:44 [adrianba]
... timestampOffset is a double
15:48:56 [adrianba]
... i think it should be expressed as a rational number without ambiguity
15:49:13 [adrianba]
... how the implementation uses that is different and spec might not talk about that
15:49:33 [adrianba]
paulc: by rational do you mean specifying numerator and denominator
15:49:54 [adrianba]
pal: that's one way, alternative is timescale (ratio) and then multiple of timescale
15:50:10 [adrianba]
... by rational i mean the ratio between integers
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q?
15:50:37 [adrianba]
pal: e.g. ISO BMFF uses two integers
15:51:07 [adrianba]
... this is a topic that caused issues and i want to understand if this is an issue here and then figure out a solution
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q+
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15:51:38 [paulc]
ack +
15:52:17 [adrianba]
strobe: timestampOffset is the last thing applied
15:52:31 [adrianba]
... i think a lot of past problems with precision have come for duration calculation
15:52:51 [adrianba]
... we need a common way of expressing all the possible inputs
15:53:02 [adrianba]
... even if you had very precise ways of specifying for one file
15:53:21 [adrianba]
... you might be using different files and you need the precision for all of them
15:53:32 [pal]
q+
15:53:43 [paulc]
ack adrian
15:53:47 [adrianba]
... since this is just for offset not for duration i don't think it will cause a problem based on my experience
15:54:19 [pal]
q-
15:54:46 [adrianba]
adrianba: please could pal file bugs in bugzilla, which we'll use to drive the discussion in the meeting
15:55:03 [adrianba]
paulc: we've dealt with these topics, okay?
15:55:05 [adrianba]
pal: yes, thanks
15:55:06 [paulc]
ack strobe
15:55:27 [adrianba]
strobe: one quick question, the states in which you can add and remove sourcebuffers
15:55:33 [adrianba]
... i think we discussed this in the past
15:55:43 [adrianba]
acolwell: i think we said you could do this at any time
15:55:58 [adrianba]
... at the moment chrome doesn't support that because of limitations in the engine
15:56:14 [adrianba]
... i don't know if we want to support that in the API
15:56:19 [adrianba]
... but for now chrome doesn't support that
15:56:24 [adrianba]
strobe: okay, thanks
15:56:34 [adrianba]
paulc: think we've covered all of the agenda
15:56:42 [adrianba]
... we have a plan in place for a good discussion at tpac
15:56:49 [adrianba]
... is there other business to discuss?
15:57:03 [adrianba]
paulc: future meeting schedule
15:57:12 [adrianba]
... won't be EME next week
15:57:24 [adrianba]
... schedule would normally be for a MSE meeting right after TPAC
15:57:35 [adrianba]
... i doubt we'll want to meet so soon after the F2F
15:57:42 [adrianba]
... we want to give the editors time
15:57:48 [adrianba]
... we'll discuss this at the meeting
15:57:58 [adrianba]
... i'm also on vacation during november
15:58:05 [adrianba]
... so we need to discuss who will drive the meetings too
15:58:11 [adrianba]
... we'll discuss at tpac
15:58:29 [adrianba]
TOPIC: adjournment
15:58:36 [adrianba]
paulc: meeting is adjourned
15:58:44 [adrianba]
... thanks to the editors for analysis
15:58:50 [Zakim]
-johnsim
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-Mark_Vickers
15:58:52 [adrianba]
... let's hope for the same on EME
15:58:52 [Zakim]
-joesteele
15:58:52 [Zakim]
-Clarke
15:58:53 [matt]
zakim, drop me
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-MartinSoukup
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-pal
15:58:53 [Zakim]
Matt is being disconnected
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-Matt
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-strobe
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-Aaron_Colwell
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-[GVoice]
15:59:05 [adrianba]
zakim, bye
15:59:05 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.650.525.aaaa, pal, Matt, +1.415.867.aabb, paulc, adrianba, [GVoice], strobe, [Microsoft], johnsim, Aaron_Colwell, +1.303.661.aacc,
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... Clarke, +1.613.491.aadd, MartinSoukup, +1.425.202.aaee, ddorwin, +1.408.536.aaff, joesteele, Mark_Vickers
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/23-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
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rrsagent, make logs public
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