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<mjs> is anyone signed up so scribe?
<rubys> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 18 October 2012
<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
ACTION-222?
<trackbot> ACTION-222 -- Maciej Stachowiak to create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list -- due 2012-10-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/222
mjs: let this slide while working
on getting plan 2014 adopted
... plan is to have a private draft of the poll to the other
chairs by eod today
... if we do create a separate mailing list, it'll still
require people to be a member of the wg in order to join
... will send out an email today
cwilso: i think it's well understood that people would have to be in the wg in order to join the list
mjs: there was some confusion over this
Plan 2014 decision: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Oct/0105.html
mjs: chairs declared consensus on
plan 2014 with a few modifications
... several objections were addressed without changing the
substance of the decision
... leaving html5 or html5.0 naming up to the editors
... we didn't want the plan to declare a specific name, leaving
up to editors (with review by wg)
... we agreed with the a11y tf's request to change "technical"
to "substantive" in the section describing their work and
deliverables
... [gives aria example]
... aspects of <hgroup> are widely implemented (parsing
behavior, ua stylesheet)
... clarified so that those portions aren't at risk
... master branch for html5.1 is the master branch of the git
repo
... we will soon mark issues postponed
... the ones that can be addressed in extension specs
... we've asked the editors to make another pass through the
bugs before we move the existing bugs to a non-5.0
component
... will only pull in specific bugs to 5.0 after that
... wg members should help complete the list of at risk
features
... [task force work statement adjustments]
daniel: how can i help?
mjs: giving technical feedback;
usually we start with a bug in bugzilla, but starting a thread
on public-html also works
... watching the list and bugzilla for topics you're interested
in
rubys: the testing tf needs a lot of help
<Zakim> rubys, you wanted to suggest http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing
mjs: testing is a key part of getting to rec
plh: since we're moving to cr by the end of the year, the next big step is figuring out what's implemented & working on testing
<plh> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/charter/2012/
plh: i udpated the proposed
charter based on plan 2014
... the plan is for us to be rechartered before the end of the
year
mjs: i encourage folks to look at & comment on the proposed charter
janina: met this morning
... continued discussing section 7.1 hidden=""
<adrianba> kris sent an update on the testing task force to the list http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012OctDec/0007.html
janina: that discussion has also
been on list
... see the tf minutes
... fpwd from webapps of the shadow dom spec; could be relevant
to tf work
... will be organizing next steps now that plan 2014 has been
adopted
... continuing to look at the non-normative parts of 4.8 (what
makes good alt text)
... we will be requesting a meeting within a couple of days on
that topic
<Zakim> adrianba, you wanted to give an update
adrianba: the tf has been
continuing to meet, alternating between topics
... trying to make sure that the bugs that are being filed are
being triaged by the editors
... aiming to get both of the specs into a good state before
proposing fpwd
... have asked for some time at tpac
... by end of tpac meeting, the editors should know what work
remains between then and fpwd
... next meeting will be looking at the issues open on the
media source extensions spec
plh: we spent last week's telcon
talking about what we'll present at tpac
... we have a very small number of approved tests
... and a much larger number of tests that haven't been
approved
... we've received several submissions from mozilla and
opera
... some cross-origin tests, <track> tests
mjs: CfC on heartbeat drafts
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Oct/0065.html
scribe: CfC closes tomorrow; please comment on the list
<gitbot> [html] techtoons pushed 2 new commits to html5_canvas: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/55ab542bc14b...262499c029d9
<gitbot> [html/html5_canvas] Revert "removed features for issue-201" - Jay Munro
<gitbot> [html/html5_canvas] Revert "add a closing comment where I think it belongs" - Jay Munro
daniel: i can scribe
mjs: thank you
mjs: we are adjourned
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