IRC log of htmlt on 2012-05-08

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15:03:42 [krisk]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012May/0008.html

15:04:22 [krisk]

Let's start with agenda item #3 Spring Cleaning

15:05:00 [krisk]

Since this has alot of discussion...

15:05:57 [krisk]

I agree that with jgraham's last comment about the whole point is to not have tests running on w3.org for security reasons.

15:06:27 [jgraham]

I think Aryeh's request is reasonable

15:06:43 [jgraham]

To run hgweb on w3c-test.org

15:07:16 [jgraham]

I guess we need to ask plh/systeam

15:07:20 [krisk]

I am open to this as well...

15:08:02 [krisk]

Yes it shoud be a system/w3c team ask to get this in place

15:08:22 [krisk]

So that one can just expect /resources/ to work

15:08:43 [krisk]

Then everyone can really use this as the way to include testharness.js,etc...

15:09:29 [krisk]

Though this doesn't seem to block fixing tests in the HTML test suite

15:10:14 [krisk]

Let me take a quick peek at webapps and see what we have...

15:11:01 [krisk]

Since I was under the impression that Aryeh's issue was limited to his editing and dom4 work

15:11:52 [jgraham]

Yes, I'm not sure exactly what his usecase is but he seems to particularly want to link to specific revisions of the editing testsuite

15:15:48 [krisk]

OK taking a peek at tests that have been submitted in webapps, I only see one for shadowdom that has an odd path to testharness.js

15:16:36 [krisk]

Some websocket tests do point to w3c-test.org, but they don't have the same constraint as the editing/selection tests that Aryeh has mentioned.

15:17:01 [krisk]

So it seems fine to update the tests in webapps and html to use /resources/

15:18:36 [krisk]

Do you agree james?

15:19:07 [jgraham]

Yes

15:19:26 [jgraham]

Are you also going to fix the relative order of testharness and testharnessreport.js?

15:20:45 [krisk]

I should be able to do that as well...

15:21:22 [krisk]

It should be easy though if I hit an issue I'll just update the path

15:21:50 [krisk]

sound good?

15:22:01 [jgraham]

Yup

15:23:57 [krisk]

Agenda Item #2 New Test Submissions

15:24:43 [krisk]

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/shortlog shows one new test for an Opera 'feature' by Ms2Ger

15:24:54 [krisk]

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/rev/1c74dd6990e9

15:25:50 [krisk]

http://www.w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Ms2ger/the-elements-of-html/scripting/the-script-element/script-onload-string.html

15:27:18 [krisk]

James do you understand his comment about a Opera 'feature'?

15:29:18 [jgraham]

Yup

15:29:37 [jgraham]

It is a test that Opera fails because we implement some behavior that isn't in the spec

15:29:46 [jgraham]

I will check and see if we have a bug on fixing it

15:29:54 [gsnedders]

(Isn't that theoretically a permissable extension, therefore?)

15:31:13 [jgraham]

No

15:31:22 [jgraham]

The HTML spec doesn't work like the ES spec

15:31:51 [jgraham]

It could be a permissable extension if we wrote a spec for it and got people to agree to implement that spec rather than HTML5

15:31:58 [jgraham]

(on this point)

15:32:10 [jgraham]

But we're not going to :)

15:33:39 [krisk]

Next Agenda Item: Bugs on Approved Tests

15:34:07 [krisk]

tinyurl -> http://tinyurl.com/6mvghxx

15:34:46 [krisk]

We have no new bugs

15:36:07 [krisk]

Shall we adjourn or does anyone have any other items they would like to discuss?

15:37:03 [jgraham]

I don't have anything in particular I don't think

15:38:07 [krisk]

Ok let's adjourn

15:38:44 [krisk]

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