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Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

01 Mar 2012

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
+44.844.800.aaaa, glenn, Mike_Dolan, +49.893.aabb, andreas-irt, Plh, Sean, +1.617.300.aacc
Regrets
Chair
sean
Scribe
glenn

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 01 March 2012

<scribe> scribe: glenn

regrets geoff

<plh> trackbot-ng, start telcon

sean: franz may be at a meeting in london, this is probably it for today

<trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 01 March 2012

plh: i already set up trackbot

np

<plh> zaki, aaaa is Sean

<scribe> chair: sean

<scribe> scribe: glenn

<scribe> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Feb/0029.html

sean: has made editorial changes to charger per last week
... but not yet published

<plh> charter updated: http://www.w3.org/2012/02/timed-text-wg-charter.html

ACTION-152?

<trackbot> ACTION-152 does not exist

<Sean> Geoff is WGBH?

<plh> action-44?

<trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Glenn Adams to redirect errata -- due 2012-03-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44

ISSUE-152?

<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- language in 9.3.3 -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152

<plh> Glenn: I updated the draft

<plh> ... redirect is in place

<plh> ... I found some issues due to parameters

<plh> ... so folks might need to update their bookmarks

<plh> issue-152?

<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- language in 9.3.3 -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152

<plh> action-43?

<trackbot> ACTION-43 -- Glenn Adams to implement edit for issue-152 -- due 2012-03-01 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/43

action-43?

<trackbot> ACTION-43 -- Glenn Adams to implement edit for issue-152 -- due 2012-03-01 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/43

action-45?

<trackbot> ACTION-45 -- Glenn Adams to effect editorial change on issue-153 -- due 2012-03-01 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/45

<plh> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/5b9abdec7634

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html

action-44?

<trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Glenn Adams to redirect errata -- due 2012-03-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44

not yet implement

<plh> +1 to mercurial

will follow up with plh on action-44

<plh> plh: can we close issue 152 and 153?

<plh> sean: let's wait to review the changes first

leave issues 152, 153 open for a week, pending review, then close next week

<plh> action-46?

<trackbot> ACTION-46 -- Glenn Adams to remove examples as editorial change -- due 2012-03-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/46

<plh> Glenn: got ready to do that. I wasn't exactly sure on the instruction however

<plh> ... and not sure we should do that

<plh> ... I think section 12.1.1 metadata has two example fragments

<plh> ... one is foreign metadata

<plh> ... and one is element metadata

<plh> ... is that what I was supposed to remove?

<plh> Sean: no

<plh> ... in Annex F

<plh> ... we have F.1 DFXP profile

<plh> ... there was a feature there

<plh> ... and no corresponding features in annex E

<plh> --> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#profile-dfxp-transformation F.1 DFXP Transformation Profile

<plh> ... as well as F1, F2, and F3

<plh> action-46: examples to fix are in F1, F2, F3. search for a feature that is not defined in annex D

<trackbot> ACTION-46 Remove examples as editorial change notes added

<plh> action-46: remove <feature value="optional">#metadata-foreign</feature> from the examples

<trackbot> ACTION-46 Remove examples as editorial change notes added

<plh> Sean: I have no object to adding it though

<plh> ... it's not critical either way

<plh> ... if it's an easy change, that's fine

<plh> ... it's not a huge change

<plh> ... right now, it didn't seem sensible to keep it

<plh> ?: what would it mean to keep it?

<plh> Glenn: it's not really rejecting but ignored. the spec requires that foreign attributes to remove before doing validity. if the feature was required, it would mean that the transformation process would have to keep it into account

<plh> Sean: seems that they should use a specific flag instead, rather than a generic one

<plh> ?: +1

<plh> Glenn: ok, let's remove the feature token and people can introduce their owns

<plh> Sean: agreed, it's better for everyone

<plh> ... and make more sense in light of the extension mechanism

<plh> Glenn: ok, I'll do the change then

plh: i can continue now

end sync issue

sean: any input?
... leave open for more review

<plh> Sean: did people look at the action on default endsync?

<plh> [no answer]

<plh> Sean: let's keep it open for now

issue-154?

<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- Clarify the endsync behavior -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/154

Issue 151

<plh> issue-151?

<trackbot> ISSUE-151 -- Clarify syncbase in SMPTE continuous mode -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/151

clarify syncbase on smpte continuous mode

<Sean> Mike: There are illegal expressions in smpte timecode

<Sean> what is goin gon?

<plh> you got dropped

<plh> can you dial back?

<Sean> OK. I'm listening to some weird call

<Sean> back in a sec

<scribe> ACTION: glenn to add "(Second Edition)" to draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Add "(Second Edition)" to draft [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-08].

<scribe> ACTION: sean to elaborate issue-151 points [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Elaborate issue-151 points [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-03-08].

issue-157?

<trackbot> ISSUE-157 -- transformation profile -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157

what does "transformation semantics" mean (see D.1.102)

<scribe> ACTION: glenn to add note and editorial text elaborating "transformation semantics" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Add note and editorial text elaborating "transformation semantics" [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-08].

issue-156?

<trackbot> ISSUE-156 -- semantics of missing #feature -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/156

plh: regrets for next week, will be traveling

adjournment

trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: glenn to add "(Second Edition)" to draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: glenn to add note and editorial text elaborating "transformation semantics" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: sean to elaborate issue-151 points [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action02]
 
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