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16:56:22 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:56:23 Date: 23 February 2012
16:56:37 zakim, who's here?
16:56:37 On the phone I see ??P1
16:56:39 On IRC I see RRSAgent, J_Voracek, anne, dveditz, miketaylr, davidb, glenn, ArtB, plh, drublic, karl, kennyluck, arronei_, hiro, hober, webben, danielfilho, Jedi, inimino,
16:56:39 ... heycam|away, slightlyoff, paul___irish, CIA-1, Philip, gsnedders, jgraham, jmb, ed, [tm], johndrinkwater, krijnh, Dashiva, rektide, gavin, shepazu, MikeSmith, hsivonen, pingo,
16:56:41 ... Hixie, trackbot, lgombos
16:56:49 zakim, ??P1 is me
16:56:49 +glenn; got it
16:56:56 chair: mjs
16:57:06 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0017.html
16:57:10 scribe: glenn
16:58:25 +hober
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16:59:59 +[Microsoft]
17:00:10 zakim, Microsoft has me
17:00:10 +eliot; got it
17:00:45 +Radhika_Roy
17:01:12 +Julian
17:01:14 mjs has joined #html-wg
17:01:20 Zakim, mute me
17:01:20 Julian should now be muted
17:01:42 -glenn
17:01:43 +Sam
17:01:56 +mjs
17:02:09 +??P1
17:02:17 zakim, ??P1 is me
17:02:17 +glenn; got it
17:02:23 +[Microsoft.a]
17:02:28 -[Microsoft.a]
17:03:00 yes
17:03:05 already set up
17:03:11 topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, February 23
17:03:17 None
17:03:29 topic: New Issues This Week:
17:03:29 None
17:03:32 +Cynthia_Shelly
17:03:40 There is 1 tracker request
17:03:40 http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
17:03:50 +[Microsoft.a]
17:03:55 topic: Items Closed Last Week
17:03:55 ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15
17:03:55 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0070.html
17:03:55 ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added
17:03:56 ISSUE-194: full-transcript call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15
17:03:56 ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
17:03:58 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0073.html
17:04:00 ISSUE-195: form-http-req call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15
17:04:00 ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added
17:04:02 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0071.html
17:04:04 ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15
17:04:04 ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added
17:04:04 zakim, Microsoft.a is krisk
17:04:04 +krisk; got it
17:04:06 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0072.html
17:04:08 ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15
17:04:08 ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added
17:04:10 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0074.html
17:04:12 ISSUE-182: footnote-recommendation call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:12 ISSUE-182 Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content notes added
17:04:14 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0084.html
17:04:16 ISSUE-185: drop-pubdate call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:16 ISSUE-185 Drop the pubdate attribute notes added
17:04:18 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0083.html
17:04:20 ISSUE-188: generic-track-format call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:20 ISSUE-188 Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format notes added
17:04:22 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0085.html
17:04:24 ISSUE-189: uri-web-prefix call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:24 ISSUE-189 Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF notes added
17:04:26 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0086.html
17:04:28 ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:28 ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added
17:04:30 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0077.html
17:04:32 ISSUE-199: aria-processing call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:32 ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added
17:04:34 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0078.html
17:04:36 ISSUE-200: legend-placement call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:36 ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
17:04:38 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0079.html
17:04:40 ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:40 ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
17:04:42 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0080.html
17:04:44 ISSUE-202: figcaption-words call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16
17:04:44 ISSUE-202 Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length notes added
17:04:46 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0081.html
17:04:48 ISSUE-203: media-descriptions call for Change Proposals closed Feb 17
17:04:48 ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
17:04:50 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0098.html
17:04:52 mjs: questions or comments?
17:05:06 topic: Items Closing This Week
17:05:06 ISSUE-172: restore-rb, extension closes Feb 21
17:05:06 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0197.html
17:05:06 ISSUE-172 restore as an optional element notes added
17:05:07 ISSUE-187: validity-stability, extension closes Feb 23
17:05:07 ISSUE-187 Document conformance has to be stable over the time notes added
17:05:09 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0032.html
17:05:11 ISSUE-190: coding-example, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 23
17:05:11 ISSUE-190 Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images notes added
17:05:13 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0127.html
17:05:15 ISSUE-191: ins-del, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 23
17:05:15 ISSUE-191 Replace/complement and elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution notes added
17:05:17 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html
17:05:19 ISSUE-192: title-attribute, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 23
17:05:19 ISSUE-192 title attribute definition does not match reality notes added
17:05:21 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0129.html
17:05:56 mjs: questions or comments on issues closed last week?
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17:06:20 request: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0306.html
17:06:21 Cannot join on the phone today due to other commitments
17:06:21 ???: re: issue-189 requests extensions for counter proposal
17:06:32 s/???/Ted/
17:06:45 mjs: at least a week before this one closes
17:06:54 ... will check on formal extension
17:07:07 topic: Items Closing Next Week
17:07:07 None
17:07:27 topic: New Calls this week
17:07:27 Call for Consensus to publish 10 Heartbeat drafts
17:07:27 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
17:07:29 ISSUE-182: footnote-recommendation, Call for Consensus closes Feb 29
17:07:29 ISSUE-182 Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content notes added
17:07:31 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0250.html
17:07:33 ISSUE-188: generic-track-format, Call for Consensus closes Feb 29
17:07:33 ISSUE-188 Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format notes added
17:07:35 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0251.html
17:07:37 ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
17:07:37 ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added
17:07:39 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0264.html
17:07:41 ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
17:07:41 ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
17:07:43 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0266.html
17:07:45 ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
17:07:45 ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added
17:07:47 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0263.html
17:07:49 ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
17:07:49 ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added
17:07:51 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0268.html
17:07:53 ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
17:07:53 ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added
17:07:55 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0265.html
17:07:57 ISSUE-199: aria-processing, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
17:07:57 ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added
17:07:59 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0269.html
17:08:01 ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
17:08:01 ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
17:08:03 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0267.html
17:08:07 mjs: wants to make sure people understand a "deferred"
17:08:09 issue-187?
17:08:09 ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
17:08:09 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
17:08:19 issue-190?
17:08:19 ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
17:08:19 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
17:08:29 issue-192?
17:08:29 ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
17:08:29 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
17:08:42 mjs: today's the day for counter proposals
17:09:45 issue-188?
17:09:45 ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open
17:09:45 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188
17:09:48 closes 29th
17:09:57 issue-193?
17:09:57 ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open
17:09:57 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
17:09:59 issue-194?
17:10:00 ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
17:10:03 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
17:10:03 issue-195?
17:10:06 issue-196?
17:10:06 ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- open
17:10:08 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
17:10:10 issue-197?
17:10:13 issue-199?
17:10:13 ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- open
17:10:14 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196
17:10:17 issue-201?
17:10:18 ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- open
17:10:21 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197
17:10:25 ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- open
17:10:25 mjs: deadlines march 21st
17:10:26 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
17:10:31 ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
17:10:31 ... comments questions?
17:10:33 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
17:10:43 topic: New Surveys this week
17:10:43 None.
17:10:50 topic: Decisions this week
17:10:50 ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Closed Without Prejudice and DEFERRED
17:10:50 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0248.html
17:10:51 ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added
17:10:52 ISSUE-202: figcaption-words, Closed Without Prejudice and DEFERRED
17:10:52 ISSUE-202 Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length notes added
17:10:54 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0249.html
17:11:11 topic: Task Force Reports
17:11:16 Testing Task Force
17:11:36 ???: met as planned on 14th
17:11:43 Here is the meeting notes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Feb/0010.html
17:11:52 s/???/Krisk/
17:12:19 Here is the bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15925
17:12:34 krisk: a few test submissions, see meeting noes
17:12:39 s/noes/notes/
17:12:55 ... but don't work in a lot of browsers
17:13:05 ... feedback requested
17:13:16 http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/html5bidi/
17:13:18 ... tests, spec, or impl may be wrong
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17:13:35 Accessibility Task Force
17:14:09 mjs: anyone from Accessibility Task Force here?
17:14:31 Zakim, who is on the line?
17:14:31 I don't understand your question, mjs.
17:14:42 Zakim, who is on the phone?
17:14:42 On the phone I see hober, [Microsoft], Radhika_Roy, Julian (muted), Sam, mjs, glenn, Cynthia_Shelly, krisk
17:14:44 [Microsoft] has eliot
17:14:55 cynthia: alternatives, canvas, ...., issue processing status
17:15:02 ... wasn't prepared to give report
17:15:15 ... major topic was text processing, and timing
17:15:26 ... how to get all bug processing done
17:15:41 topic: AOB
17:15:53 ISSUE-203: media-descriptions
17:15:53 ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
17:15:53 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0084.html
17:16:09 mjs: expecting CP soon
17:16:26 ... email cited in agenda
17:16:32 ... will close soon sans update
17:16:40 ISSUE-189: uri-web-prefix, update required
17:16:40 ISSUE-189 Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF notes added
17:16:40 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0270.html
17:17:10 mjs: updated by julian, only one CP; would proceed to CfC, but an extra week requested for counter
17:17:16 ... any other topics?
17:17:26 topic: Scribe for next meeting
17:17:44 I'll likely be the chair
17:18:00 ted volunteers to scribe
17:18:14 sam will chair
17:18:15 topic: Adjournment
17:18:16 -mjs
17:18:17 -hober
17:18:18 now adjourned
17:18:21 -Julian
17:18:22 -Sam
17:18:25 -Radhika_Roy
17:18:25 trackbot-ng, stop meeting
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