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<trackbot> Date: 09 February 2012
<MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0063.html
<MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0040.html
<MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
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<paulc> Paul indicated that anyone with a change proposal they are working on should definitely file what they by the on time date.
<paulc> There note should if possible indicate if there are any areas they plan to continue to work on so that other WG member know if the CP is complete or not.
<paulc> The Chairs are especially willing to see CPs evovle in the face of input and/or discussion on the email list.
<MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0063.html
ms: important to be aware of the deadlines in the above mail
js: TF approved Steve's change proposal
Leif has put out another one
ms: note some of the reopen requests need to be refined further
<scribe can't find pointer to Leif's CP>
there will be a preliminary review for well formedness of CPs
need to be prepared to respond quickly to issues raised
-> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitlev2 Updated title attribute CP from Steve
<note this is tagged to HTML-ISSUE-80, not HTML-ISSUE-192>
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitle_reality
js: this is a reconsideration request for HTML-ISSUE-80
ms: finding above CP as well
mc: think this is and OBE version but it's unclear
ms: think Steve is on top of pushing the CP to the HTML WG
js: important so will ping
js; has been reviewed by text sub-team, just editorial edits now
ms: no CP available?
js: on Steve's plate, don't recall due date
issue was that markup in example was not a11y friendly
ms: so naive user might get misled even though it's informative
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
due 15 February 2012
jf: there are two methods to pursue
<scribe missed details>
not sure whether to submit one, both as alternatives, what
js: both would work and we don't have preference between them, right?
jf: right, we need programmatic link to transcripts
can be done with @kind or with a new attribute
<scribe> new attribute might have more resistance
ms: discussed in media sub-team?
js: not recently
there has been pushback on new values for @kind
ms: should get others to support an approach and contribute to the CP
<MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith
<MichaelC> ARIA processing CP
MichaelC: view is that this CP is
to clarify how to do lexical processing of ARIA in HTML
... it copies info from elsewhre
... says what the syntax of the value of the role attribute
is
... and some additional conformance requirements, then how to
process it
... similiarly, for state and property attributes
... So I believe that should clarify the lexical processing
requirements for ARIA
<scribe> scribe: MichaelC
rs: expect Frank to have a CP by this weekend
<richardschwerdtfe> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Canvas_hit_testing
due 16 Feb
ms: also need to move that to the HTML wiki
js: believe Judy still hopes to get this in
it's a nice-to-have, not essential
so if it's not in, we'll be ok
ms: would be nice to get it done so it's not hanging
<richardschwerdtfe> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline>
<richardschwerdtfe> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CaretSelectionRevised
rs: these are two canvas proposals
not alternatives, they work together to solve the problems
also think current state for focus ring isn't satisfactory yet
item 24 = April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0057.html
ms: there's a proposal to have meetings between WebApps and HTML in Silicon Valley 10 - 13 April 2012
question is whether this TF should meet then also
<MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012JanMar/thread.html#msg549
TF could meet on Monday 9 April, Saturday 14 April, or overlap with WebApps on 10 - 11 April
mc: can poll for a) support a FtF this year, b) support joining this batch of meetings, c) specific dates in that week preferred?
js: want to know about agenda
mc: picks up on some TPAC discussion about Web performance
also some API work, that's not currently in HTML but affects it
pc: HTML also needs to start thinking of what's next in HTML
<MikeSmith> related to HTML.next - http://www.w3.org/html/wg/next/markup/
js: makes sense for these meetings to take place
<MikeSmith> stuff that will be going into WebApps charter - http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges#Additions_Agreed
pc: FtF at last TPAC was considered valuable
would run the HTML portion of this un-conference style
js: PF would be interested in this stuff anyways
value in TF joining in the forwards thinking
pc: also in poll should point out nearby religious holidays
mc: have a change proposal that functions as part of a reopen request for HTML-ISSUE-31, but don't feel confident in it
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Text_Alternatives_Ownership
js: Steve is working on another aspect that is more important
need to decide what to do with these in the next day and half
<scribe> meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force
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