IRC log of webperf on 2012-01-18

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/01/18-webperf-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be WPWG
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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 18 January 2012
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zaki,, list conferences
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zakim, list conferences
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zakim, this is per
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I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM, T&S_Track(dnt)12:00PM, RWC_web-per()1:00PM, XML_EXI()12:30PM, WAI_PF()12:00PM, Team_(wf)17:00Z active
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also scheduled at this time are Team_Lia(LIAISONS)12:00PM, INC_(CGINF)1:00PM, Team_(mwc)17:02Z
18:01:27 [plh]
zakim, this is web-per
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ok, plh; that matches RWC_web-per()1:00PM
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plh, this was already RWC_web-per()1:00PM
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ok, plh; that matches RWC_web-per()1:00PM
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+Plh
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+clown
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+clown.a
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present+ simonjam
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present+ alois
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present+ karenand
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present+ plh
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present+ JatinderMann
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+ +43.732.908.2aadd
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present+ ArvindJain
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present+ Zhiheng
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Jatinder: Karen updated notes on Action 76 - http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/actions/76
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Karen: Was there an issue before?
18:05:55 [Zakim]
+ +1.503.203.aaee
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James: I'm not clear on the details from before. But I think we can close it out now.
18:06:02 [JatinderMann]
close action-76
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ACTION-76 Add a Navigation Timing test case to test NavigationStart. closed
18:06:03 [Karen]
I'll go ahead and resolve the AI
18:07:23 [plh]
http://w3c-test.org/webperf/tests/approved/navigation-timing/html5/test_timing_attributes_order.html
18:08:10 [JatinderMann]
plh: This test used to work in Chrome but it no longer works. Do we know why?
18:08:34 [JatinderMann]
Karen: The only change to this test was adding the beforeunload, I don't believe we changed the load.
18:08:52 [JatinderMann]
James: We still need to look into this and see why this is the case.
18:09:20 [JatinderMann]
Karen: Regarding the document readiness test case, I looked and seems like IE doesn't support all those events for iframes.
18:10:38 [plh]
"If the current document readiness changes to the same state multiple times, domLoading, domInteractive, domContentLoadedEventStart, domContentLoadedEventEnd and domComplete must return the time of the first occurrence of the corresponding document readiness change."
18:11:44 [JatinderMann]
plh: I think we are fine with this test, as we are not relying on any of these events specifically. A HTML5 change here should not impact Navigation Timing.
18:13:20 [JatinderMann]
http://w3c-test.org/webperf/tests/approved/navigation-timing/html5/test_navigation_type_reload.html
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James: Seems like the redirectEnd greater than test may be wrong.
18:17:39 [JatinderMann]
Karen: Do we think all of these are greater than and equal?
18:17:54 [JatinderMann]
James: I believe the whole point was to make sure that the values change after the reload.
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Zhiheng: Even msFirstPaint test is failing.
18:18:18 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: We should remove that test as its not a part of the spec.
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Jatinder: On IE9 I can see that msFirstPaint, redirectEnd and redirectStart are failing.
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plh: Previously, I saw these tests pass on IE9.
18:19:06 [JatinderMann]
James: Is it possible that the test harness changed from underneath?
18:19:15 [JatinderMann]
plh: This is possible.
18:19:27 [Karen]
msFirstPaint is not a must property...we should remove it
18:19:32 [plh]
wp_test(function () { assert_true(value > greater_than, msg); }, msg);
18:20:10 [JatinderMann]
Karen: I don't think its a problem with the assert, I think its the test itself.
18:22:07 [Karen]
The test is doing a deep compare of all of the timings and checking the new value is greater than the old value...there is not a redirect so 0 will not be > 0
18:22:23 [JatinderMann]
plh: We need to ensure that IE and Chrome need to run all the tests and ensure that we pass on all of them.
18:22:49 [plh]
zakim, mute plh
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Plh should now be muted
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nope, not me :)
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zakim, mute clown
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clown should now be muted
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who is clown?
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zakim, drop clown
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clown is being disconnected
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Action SimonJam Update the test_navigation_type_reload.html to fix the compare issue
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Sorry, couldn't find user - SimonJam
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-clown
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Action Update the test_navigation_type_reload.html to fix the compare issue
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Sorry, couldn't find user - Update
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Action simonjam Update test_navigation_type_reload.html to fix the compare issue
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Sorry, couldn't find user - simonjam
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+clown.aa
18:24:59 [plh]
test_timing_attributes_order and test_navigation_type_reload for chrome
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test_navigation_type_reload for IE
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http://w3c-test.org/webperf/tests/approved/navigation-timing/html5/test_timing_xserver_redirect.html
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plh: This is passing in IE10.
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-clown.a
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- +1.503.203.aaee
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- +1.650.253.aabb
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-Plh
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- +1.425.654.aaaa
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- +1.425.681.aacc
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- +43.732.908.2aadd
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-clown.aa
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RWC_web-per()1:00PM has ended
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Attendees were +1.425.654.aaaa, +1.650.253.aabb, +1.425.681.aacc, Plh, clown, +43.732.908.2aadd, +1.503.203.aaee
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Action-77 was created on James
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...to update the test_navigation_type_reload.html compare issue
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/18-webperf-minutes.html JatinderMann
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