[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
HTML-A11y Bug Triage telecon
03 Jan 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0331.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/03-a11y-bugs-irc
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Léonie_Watson, Joshue_O_Connor, Marco_Ranon, Gez_Lemon
Chair
Michael_Cooper
Scribe
hhillen
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]New bugs review
2. [6]Actions review
3. [7]Needs more info bugs
4. [8]Won't fix bugs
5. [9]Fixed bugs
* [10]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
<scribe> scribe: hhillen
New bugs review
<MichaelC>
[11]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=adv
anced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=HTML+W
G&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allw
ordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&
status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=
substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bug_id_type=anye
xact&bug_id=&votes=&chfiel
[11] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=HTML+WG&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_id=&votes=&chfiel
<MichaelC>
dfrom=-4w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug+creation]&chfieldvalue=&cm
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MC: I did a search of new bugs in the past 4 weeks , Everett
did you look at new bugs?
EZ: I did, nothing really jumped out at me
<MichaelC>
[12]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOL
VED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&res
olution=NEEDSINFO
[12] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=NEEDSINFO
MC: This is pretty much the same set of needs info bugs we have
been looking at so far
... They're all assigned
EZ: That deadline in January isn' t very practical
MC: Leonie is trying to do some individual follow up for bug
owners
Actions review
HH: The above notes applied to this item
Needs more info bugs
Won't fix bugs
<MichaelC>
[13]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOL
VED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&res
olution=WONTFIX
[13] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVED&keywords=a11ytf&product=HTML WG&query_format=advanced&resolution=WONTFIX
MC: There are 82 bugs in won't fix state
... We identified some high priority wont fix bugs for the task
force to push back on
... That didn't work out so well, most of the chosen bugs we
already turned into issues, or belonged to bigger sets of bugs
... Should we take the reverse approach, filter out the low
priority bugs?
EZ: Wouldn't that leave us with the same list?
MC: If bugs are related to an existing tracker issue (which is
hopefully shown in the bug), then we should add comments to
both the bug and the issue to clarify their connection
... That's how we can help them trying to group bugs into one
tracker issue
... Hopefully we can propose the creation of just a few new
issue, even if many bugs are assigned to those issues
... We could burn conference time and go through all these
bugs, or we could make it homework assigments
EZ: We should use the conference time to at least do a high
level grouping of the bugs
[14]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6496
[14] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6496
HH: Related to Issue 31
[15]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8716
[15] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8716
MC: Related to text alternatives
[16]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827
[16] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8827
MC: Related to text alternatives
[17]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9061
[17] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9061
MC: Related to Canvas
[18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9098
[18] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9098
MC: Related to text alternatives
[19]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9212
[19] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9212
MC: Related to text alternatives
[20]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215
[20] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215
MC: Related to text alternatives
[21]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216
[21] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216
MC: Related to text alternatives
[22]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9415
[22] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9415
MC: Related to conformance
[23]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10438
[23] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10438
MC: Related to ARIA
[24]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10444
[24] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10444
MC: Related to ARIA
[25]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10448
[25] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10448
MC: Related to ARIA
[26]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10449
[26] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10449
MC: Related to ARIA
[27]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10451
[27] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10451
MC: Related to ARIA
[28]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10452
[28] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10452
MC: Related to ARIA
[29]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10455
[29] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10455
MC: Related to text alternatives
[30]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10462
[30] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10462
MC: Related to ARIA
[31]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482
[31] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482
MC: Related to text alternatives
[32]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10642
[32] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10642
MC: Related to media
[33]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10708
[33] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10708
MC: Related to text alternatives
[34]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10782
[34] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10782
MC: Related to accesskey
[35]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10831
[35] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10831
MC: Related to ARIA
[36]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10853
[36] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10853
MC: Related to text alternatives
[37]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10873
[37] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10873
MC: Related to tooltip vs title
[38]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10903
[38] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10903
MC: Related to ARIA
[39]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10906
[39] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10906
MC: Related to conformance
[40]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10914
[40] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10914
MC: Related to ARIA
[41]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10967
[41] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10967
MC: Related to text alternatives
[42]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10994
[42] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10994
MC: Related to text access key
[43]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11140
[43] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11140
MC: Related to text access key
[44]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11240
[44] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11240
MC: Related to canvas
[45]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11593
[45] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11593
MC: Related to media
[46]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12306
[46] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12306
MC: Related to canvas
[47]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12546
[47] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12546
MC: Related to media
[48]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12545
[48] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12545
MC: Related to media
[49]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12590
[49] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12590
MC: Related to text alternatives
[50]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12906
[50] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12906
MC: Related to canvas
[51]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12985
[51] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12985
MC: Related to feature request
[52]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13275
[52] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13275
MC: Related to media
[53]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13333
[53] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13333
MC: Related to media
[54]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13390
[54] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13390
MC: Related to conformance
[55]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428
[55] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428
MC: Related to text alternatives
[56]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13429
[56] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13429
MC: Related to text contenteditable
[57]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13430
[57] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13430
MC: Related to feature request
[58]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13434
[58] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13434
MC: Related to media
[59]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13435
[59] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13435
MC: Related to media
[60]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13436
[60] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13436
MC: Related to media
[61]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13442
[61] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13442
MC: Related to conformance
[62]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449
[62] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449
MC: Related to text alternatives
[63]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13451
[63] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13451
MC: Related to feature request
[64]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13460
[64] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13460
MC: Related to feature request
[65]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461
[65] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461
MC: Related to text alternatives
[66]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13512
[66] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13512
MC: Related to feature request
[67]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13513
[67] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13513
MC: Related to feature request (i.e. misc)
[68]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13524
[68] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13524
MC: Related to drag & drop
[69]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13541
[69] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13541
MC: Related to ARIA mapping
[70]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13544
[70] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13544
MC: Related to media
[71]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13546
[71] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13546
MC: Related to media
[72]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13548
[72] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13548
MC: Related to conformance
[73]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13552
[73] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13552
MC: Related to misc
[74]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13553
[74] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13553
MC: Related to misc
[75]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13561
[75] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13561
MC: Related to conformance for user agents
[76]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13566
[76] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13566
MC: Related to misc
[77]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572
[77] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572
Related to keyboard access (previously known as access key)
[78]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13573
[78] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13573
Related to keyboard access
[79]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13575
[79] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13575
Related to keyboard access
[80]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624
[80] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13624
Related to media
[81]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13637
[81] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13637
Related to media
[82]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13638
[82] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13638
Related to medi
s medi/conformance/
s /medi/conformance/
[83]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639
[83] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639
Related to conformance
[84]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13650
[84] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13650
Related to feature request
[85]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13651
[85] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13651
Related to text alternatives
[86]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13655
[86] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13655
MC: Related to misc
[87]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668
[87] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668
MC: Related to misc
[88]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13692
[88] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13692
MC: Related to media
[89]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13693
[89] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13693
MC: Related to misc
[90]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727
[90] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727
MC: Related to text alternatives
[91]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14107
[91] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14107
MC: Related to misc
[92]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14419
[92] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14419
MC: Related to canvas
Fixed bugs
MC: DO we need to split up the list of fixed bugs as homework
as well?
EZ: We're not likely to finish that this week
MC: Let's do that next week then, the wont fix bugs are more
important anyway
Summary of Action Items
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