IRC log of dap on 2011-12-14
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be DAP
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- ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
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- Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 14 December 2011
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- trackbot, start telecon
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be DAP
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- ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
- 14:47:50 [trackbot]
- Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 14 December 2011
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Dec/0036.html
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- Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
- 14:49:12 [fjh_]
- Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
- 14:49:48 [fjh_]
- Regrets+ Niklas_Widell
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- UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
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- +glenn
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- +??P18
- 14:59:43 [AnssiK]
- zakim, ??P18 is me
- 14:59:43 [Zakim]
- +AnssiK; got it
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- +Deepanshu_Gautam
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- Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
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- +Josh_Soref
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- +richt
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- +Nigil
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- +[IPcaller]
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- Present+ Rich_Tibbett
- 15:00:30 [ernesto_jimenez]
- Present+ Ernesto_Jimenez
- 15:00:31 [fjh]
- zakim, [IPcaller] is me
- 15:00:31 [Zakim]
- +fjh; got it
- 15:00:33 [Clarke]
- +Clarke_Stevens
- 15:00:34 [glenn]
- Present+ Glenn_Adams
- 15:00:38 [AnssiK]
- zakim, who is on the call?
- 15:00:38 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, Nigil, fjh
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- Present+ Clarke_Stevens
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- Present+ Cathy_Chan
- 15:01:09 [Deepanshu]
- Present+ Deepanshu_Gautam
- 15:01:37 [Zakim]
- +Dsr
- 15:01:46 [fjh]
- zakim. who is here?
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- + +46.1.08.01.aaaa
- 15:02:00 [dsr]
- Present+ Dsr
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- -Nigil
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- +??P3
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- s/zakim. who is here?//
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- 15:02:08 [Claes]
- Zakim, aaaa is Claes
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- +Claes; got it
- 15:02:10 [fjh]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:02:10 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, ??P3
- 15:02:16 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see timeless, Cathy, Deepanshu, Claes, Clarke, dsr, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, ernesto_jimenez, AnssiK, darobin, richt, lgombos, dom, Josh_Soref, slightlyoff, ilkka,
- 15:02:20 [Clarke]
- ??P3 is me
- 15:02:20 [Zakim]
- ... trackbot, rektide, mounir
- 15:02:21 [Claes]
- Present+ Claes_Nilsson
- 15:02:30 [Clarke]
- zakim, ??P3 is me
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- +Pieter
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- +Clarke; got it
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- +Cathy
- 15:03:08 [fjh]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:03:08 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, Clarke, Pieter, Cathy
- 15:03:13 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see timeless, Cathy, Deepanshu, Claes, Clarke, dsr, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, ernesto_jimenez, AnssiK, darobin, richt, lgombos, dom, Josh_Soref, slightlyoff, ilkka,
- 15:03:16 [Zakim]
- ... trackbot, rektide, mounir
- 15:03:16 [dom]
- Zakim, ??P3 is Clarke
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- I already had ??P3 as Clarke, dom
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- +??P31
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- Zakim, ??P31 is me
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- +darobin
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- +dom; got it
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- -darobin
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- +darobin
- 15:05:30 [Josh_Soref]
- Scribe: Josh_Soref
- 15:05:43 [fjh]
- Topic: Administrative
- 15:06:06 [Josh_Soref]
- RESOLUTION: Cancel Dec 28 Call
- 15:06:13 [Josh_Soref]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
- 15:06:22 [fjh]
- HTML Speech Incubator Group completes, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Dec/0035.html
- 15:06:28 [Josh_Soref]
- Topic: Minutes Approval
- 15:06:36 [fjh]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/att-0263/minutes-2011-11-30.html
- 15:06:55 [Josh_Soref]
- RESOLUTION: Minutes of Dec 7 Meeting are Approved
- 15:07:04 [Josh_Soref]
- Topic: March F2F
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- Date and location confirmation
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Dec/0000.html (Dom)
- 15:07:13 [fjh]
- Week of 19 March (Tue - Thur ?)
- 15:07:13 [fjh]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/mar2012-f2f/results
- 15:07:13 [fjh]
- Shenzhen (adjacent to Hongkong), Beijing offers...
- 15:07:28 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: We need to nail this down
- 15:07:37 [Josh_Soref]
- ... people need to get approvals and visas
- 15:07:56 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: I don't think it would be troublesome to get to Shenzhen
- 15:08:04 [Josh_Soref]
- ... you can take a Ferry from Hong Kong there
- 15:08:15 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: so basically you fly in to HK and then Ferry
- 15:08:17 [dom]
- q+ to ask about who would be hosting in BEijing
- 15:08:21 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: Can we decide on the dates first?
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- ack dom
- 15:08:36 [Zakim]
- dom, you wanted to ask about who would be hosting in BEijing
- 15:08:41 [Zakim]
- + +1.425.214.aabb - is perhaps SungOk_You?
- 15:08:49 [Josh_Soref]
- ... Mar 20-22
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- Present+ Dzung_Tran
- 15:08:55 [darobin]
- [and we have an offer from LG in Seoul as well, right?]
- 15:09:09 [Josh_Soref]
- RESOLUTION: F2F will be March 20-22
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- +Jon_Gunderson
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- dom: did we have an offer for Beijing?
- 15:10:29 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: it came privately, not on the list
- 15:10:30 [darobin]
- I'm Jing Wu from Chinaunicom.
- 15:10:32 [darobin]
- Chinaunicom is very glad to host the F2F meeting in March next year in Beijing.
- 15:10:47 [R_Berkoff]
- Present+ Russell_Berkoff(Samsung)
- 15:10:50 [fjh]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:10:50 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, Clarke, Pieter, Cathy, dom, darobin, SungOk_You?, Jon_Gunderson
- 15:10:53 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see R_Berkoff, Dzung_Tran, bryan, Cathy, Deepanshu, Claes, Clarke, dsr, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, ernesto_jimenez, AnssiK, darobin, richt, lgombos, dom, Josh_Soref,
- 15:10:56 [Zakim]
- ... slightlyoff, ilkka, trackbot, rektide, mounir
- 15:11:19 [bryan]
- present+ Bryan_Sullivan
- 15:11:24 [Josh_Soref]
- dom: i think knowing the Week and the Country
- 15:11:35 [Josh_Soref]
- ... should be sufficient for Josh_Soref's needs
- 15:12:38 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: it seems that we'd want to confirm that the host is able to provide Internet and similar
- 15:12:57 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: because this would be our first time hosting
- 15:13:10 [Josh_Soref]
- ... we'd want to know how many attendees (roughly)
- 15:13:15 [Josh_Soref]
- ... we would provide internet of course
- 15:13:26 [Josh_Soref]
- ... but for other logistics, we need that estimate
- 15:13:42 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: dom, do we need a questionnaire for participant count?
- 15:13:51 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: Deepanshu, when do you need the count by?
- 15:13:57 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: we'd need it by Mid Jan
- 15:14:07 [dom]
- (DAP meetings have been in the range of 15 to 40 participants)
- 15:14:08 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: once we decide, we can put up a registration poll
- 15:14:27 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: at latest by the end of January
- 15:14:40 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: i'd favor deciding now
- 15:14:42 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: me too
- 15:14:50 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: i think we should decide now, and on Shenzhen
- 15:14:51 [darobin]
- +1 to Shenzhen
- 15:14:56 [Josh_Soref]
- ... although i don't know anything about it
- 15:14:58 [Clarke]
- +1
- 15:15:10 [Cathy]
- +1 to Shenzhen
- 15:15:25 [Josh_Soref]
- dsr: I agree, do we have confirmation about hosts in Shenzhen ?
- 15:15:28 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: yes
- 15:15:34 [Josh_Soref]
- dsr: then i'd favor deciding now
- 15:15:41 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: Objections?
- 15:15:44 [Josh_Soref]
- [ None ]
- 15:15:50 [Josh_Soref]
- Resolution: March F2F will be in Shenzhen
- 15:16:08 [Josh_Soref]
- ... Huawei
- 15:16:24 [Deepanshu]
- Huawei Technologies.
- 15:16:24 [Josh_Soref]
- s/... Huawei/[ At Huawei ]/
- 15:16:35 [Deepanshu]
- We are headquatered in Shenzhen
- 15:16:43 [Josh_Soref]
- Topic: Battery
- 15:16:54 [darobin]
- ACTION: Robin to reply to China Unicom and LG about hosting
- 15:16:55 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-495 - Reply to China Unicom and LG about hosting [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-12-21].
- 15:17:04 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: AnssiK, it looks like there's discussion on both lists
- 15:17:14 [Josh_Soref]
- AnssiK: seems to be publication, a couple of LC comments
- 15:17:17 [AnssiK]
- http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2009/dap/system-info/battery-status.html
- 15:17:20 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i've been updating the ED based on them
- 15:17:21 [fjh]
- s/Resolution: March/RESOLUTION: March/
- 15:17:34 [Josh_Soref]
- ... you can review the commit logs
- 15:17:48 [Josh_Soref]
- ... I don't think there's much need to review the changes on the call
- 15:17:57 [Josh_Soref]
- ... we got good feedback and have resolved a couple of bugs
- 15:18:09 [fjh]
- Last Call period ends 20 December 2011
- 15:18:11 [Josh_Soref]
- ... I think we're ready to move forward
- 15:18:27 [Josh_Soref]
- AnssiK: i'll be away for most of Jan
- 15:18:36 [Josh_Soref]
- ... if you want me to do something during Jan, that may be challenging
- 15:18:51 [Josh_Soref]
- ... Josh_Soref could edit the spec
- 15:19:09 [Josh_Soref]
- ... if you need to do edits in my absence, i trust you
- 15:19:15 [Josh_Soref]
- ... any changes at this point would be typos
- 15:19:32 [Josh_Soref]
- ... you (collectively) are free to make whatever (minor) changes it takes
- 15:19:37 [fjh]
- need to update last call log
- 15:19:37 [Josh_Soref]
- ... please work with the implementers
- 15:19:39 [darobin]
- +1 to shipping stuff
- 15:19:44 [Josh_Soref]
- ... so we can ship something from this WG
- 15:19:51 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: will you be at the F2F?
- 15:19:54 [Josh_Soref]
- AnssiK: most likely not
- 15:20:04 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: thanks. we'll play it by ear.
- 15:20:09 [Josh_Soref]
- Topic: Media Capture
- 15:20:14 [Josh_Soref]
- Zakim, who is on the call?
- 15:20:14 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, Clarke, Pieter, Cathy, dom, darobin, SungOk_You?, Jon_Gunderson
- 15:20:19 [fjh]
- Media Stream Capture Scenarios , ACTION-461 (Travis)
- 15:20:20 [fjh]
- https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/tip/media-stream-capture/scenarios.html
- 15:20:32 [richt]
- q+ for media capture
- 15:20:40 [darobin]
- q?
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- 15:20:42 [fjh]
- ack richt
- 15:20:42 [Zakim]
- richt, you wanted to discuss media capture
- 15:20:47 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: preferably send feedback to the TF
- 15:20:56 [Josh_Soref]
- richt: I'm still a bit unhappy with the split of that work
- 15:21:07 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i'd like to see more of the stuff come from WebRTC
- 15:21:12 [Josh_Soref]
- ... that might be due to the charter
- 15:21:17 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: I think for the split stuff
- 15:21:24 [Josh_Soref]
- ... it's about convincing the WebRTC people
- 15:21:34 [Josh_Soref]
- ... if we come up w/ a unified stream proposal that they like
- 15:21:43 [Josh_Soref]
- richt: it's about coming up with a toolchain
- 15:21:50 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i started a discussion, but i didn't get any responses
- 15:22:02 [dom]
- q+ to suggest making a concrete Web IDL proposal
- 15:22:02 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: i think it would be a good idea to chat w/ travis to get an aligned proposal
- 15:22:14 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: sometimes people are silent on the list because they agree
- 15:22:25 [fjh]
- ack deepanshu_Gautam
- 15:22:30 [Josh_Soref]
- richt: i'll talk with travis, i think we're aligned
- 15:23:05 [richt]
- s/i'd like to see more of the stuff come from WebRTC/I'd like to see MediaStream come from WebRTC also/
- 15:23:10 [dom]
- [I think there will be also needs to get stuff done for visas]
- 15:23:17 [darobin]
- ack dom
- 15:23:17 [Zakim]
- dom, you wanted to suggest making a concrete Web IDL proposal
- 15:23:17 [fjh]
- q?
- 15:23:27 [Josh_Soref]
- i/Topic: Battery/fjh: Deepanshu if you could send out about logistics, that would be good/
- 15:23:30 [darobin]
- +1 on concrete
- 15:23:50 [Josh_Soref]
- i/Topic: Battery/Deepanshu: I can send out about Travel+Ferry but not Hotel as we haven't decided yet/
- 15:24:04 [Josh_Soref]
- dom: XXX about WebIDL
- 15:24:11 [Josh_Soref]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 15:24:11 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
- 15:24:39 [Josh_Soref]
- s/+Clarke_Stevens/Present+ Clarke_Stevens/
- 15:25:07 [Josh_Soref]
- dom: richt will you be making a concrete proposal?
- 15:25:13 [Josh_Soref]
- richt: it's not that difficult
- 15:25:26 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i'm not editing the document, which makes things a bit of a pain
- 15:25:37 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: the document is on github, so you can fork and make pull requests
- 15:25:47 [fjh]
- Task force highlights
- 15:25:48 [fjh]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-capture/2011Dec/
- 15:26:06 [dom]
- s/XXX about WebIDL/I think having a concrete Web IDL proposal on how the split would work would help moving forward
- 15:26:31 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: i don't think there's a lot we can talk about here as it's supposed to be done in the TF
- 15:26:50 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: right, but i'm not sure how to handle TFs yet
- 15:26:53 [Josh_Soref]
- Topic: Web Intents
- 15:27:01 [fjh]
- Web and TV IG has just published his first group note document:
- 15:27:01 [fjh]
- "Requirements for Home Networking Scenarios".
- 15:27:02 [fjh]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/NOTE-hnreq-20111201/
- 15:27:02 [fjh]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Dec/0034.html
- 15:27:02 [fjh]
- 5b) Task force highlights
- 15:27:02 [fjh]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-intents/2011Dec/
- 15:27:24 [Josh_Soref]
- s/??P3 is me//
- 15:27:38 [Josh_Soref]
- Zakim, SungOK_You is really bryan
- 15:27:38 [Zakim]
- +bryan; got it
- 15:28:02 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: I think we need to do more work on the list for intents
- 15:28:08 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i don't think there's anything to discuss on it
- 15:28:17 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: for Intents, I think we have to figure out IPR stuff
- 15:28:20 [Josh_Soref]
- ... and get a draft out
- 15:28:35 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: who's doing this?
- 15:28:43 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: we just talked about this w/ dsr before the call
- 15:28:47 [Claes]
- q+
- 15:28:54 [Deepanshu]
- How do i put myself on the que?
- 15:29:01 [Josh_Soref]
- q+ Deepanshu
- 15:29:09 [Josh_Soref]
- Claes: a question about the next F2F and Intents
- 15:29:12 [fjh]
- ack Claes
- 15:29:27 [Josh_Soref]
- ... are there any plans to have any joint Intents F2F in concert w/ the DAP F2F?
- 15:29:28 [Deepanshu]
- ans how to remove myself "q-"
- 15:29:45 [fjh]
- s/ans how.*//
- 15:29:51 [Deepanshu]
- thx
- 15:29:51 [Josh_Soref]
- s|s/ans how.*//|
- 15:29:55 [Josh_Soref]
- s/thx//
- 15:30:02 [Josh_Soref]
- s/ans how to remove myself "q-"//
- 15:30:29 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: the question of discussing Intents at the F2F depends on whether the Intents people attend the F2F
- 15:30:41 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: i think it's important to talk about it, so we should have an Agenda item
- 15:30:45 [darobin]
- ACTION: Robin to figure out if the Intents TF wants to meet as part of DAP F2F
- 15:30:45 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-496 - Figure out if the Intents TF wants to meet as part of DAP F2F [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-12-21].
- 15:30:51 [bryan]
- I would prefer that all task forces are represented at the F2F and there is specific dicussion.
- 15:30:54 [Josh_Soref]
- Claes: darobin / fjh, could you discuss this with the TF leader?
- 15:31:06 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: i think that's important, thank you Claes
- 15:31:11 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: i will
- 15:31:16 [bryan]
- Otherwise there is less reason to travel.
- 15:31:25 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: in general, we should figure out our Agenda for the F2F fairly soon
- 15:31:41 [Josh_Soref]
- Topic: AoB
- 15:31:46 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: I'd suggest not to have a call next week
- 15:31:51 [Josh_Soref]
- RESOLUTION: No call next week
- 15:32:18 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: regarding participation, i think we need a questionaire
- 15:32:24 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: i think most attendees will need visas
- 15:32:30 [Josh_Soref]
- ... so most will need invitation letters
- 15:32:33 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: yes
- 15:32:45 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: i'm not sure about the internal process for getting invitation letters
- 15:33:16 [Josh_Soref]
- ... it may be possible due to the internal details, that we'll need to know who needs invitation letters
- 15:33:28 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: i think the last time i was in china, we just needed a generic letter
- 15:33:39 [fjh]
- Deepanshu, I need an invitation as soon as possible
- 15:33:42 [Josh_Soref]
- dsr: we may have a generic letter with a block list of names
- 15:34:07 [fjh]
- s/Deepanshu, I need an invitation as soon as possible//
- 15:34:20 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: i'll get back on the list what information we need for each person
- 15:34:29 [Josh_Soref]
- ... we can provide any letters people ask for
- 15:34:49 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: can we do a swag for number of attendees?
- 15:35:16 [Josh_Soref]
- Josh_Soref: didn't the WBS give you numbers?
- 15:35:21 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: that would do the trick
- 15:35:48 [Josh_Soref]
- dom: regarding participants, the ballpark is 15..40
- 15:36:03 [Josh_Soref]
- ... the last time we met in Asia (Seoul), we had the lowest, which was 15
- 15:36:10 [Josh_Soref]
- ... but there were bad travel conditions then
- 15:36:25 [darobin]
- [there were 18 responders for the week of 19th, but I would expect more]
- 15:36:26 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: specifically Fukushima
- 15:36:46 [darobin]
- [I have emailed James to coordinate on Intents participation]
- 15:36:53 [Josh_Soref]
- ... which resulted in cancellations
- 15:37:03 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: Deepanshu, where does this leave you with planning?
- 15:37:10 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: i'm just wondering about invitation letters?
- 15:37:25 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i'm not sure if the time would be enough
- 15:37:32 [Josh_Soref]
- ... if we get the information by the end of january
- 15:37:41 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: that might make it hard to turn around the passports
- 15:37:58 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: we should be providing invitation letters ASAP
- 15:38:12 [Josh_Soref]
- q+ to ask if we can invite all WG members
- 15:38:31 [Josh_Soref]
- dom: i'd suggest Deepanshu get back to us with what he needs, time, etc.
- 15:38:42 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: i'll get back on the list with that
- 15:38:57 [Josh_Soref]
- dom: once we have that, we can adjust the deadline for registration
- 15:39:24 [Josh_Soref]
- ... we can ask people to send that information as soon as they know that they are coming
- 15:39:49 [Josh_Soref]
- ... people who don't know if they are coming should go through the process
- 15:39:58 [Deepanshu]
- it will not be possibel for us to host in Hongkong
- 15:40:09 [Josh_Soref]
- s/possibel/possible/
- 15:40:38 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: i'm not sure about how transiting through Hong Kong works
- 15:40:51 [Josh_Soref]
- darobin: Hong Kong has a visa exception for Transit or under 3 months
- 15:40:56 [Josh_Soref]
- q?
- 15:41:04 [Josh_Soref]
- ack me
- 15:41:04 [Zakim]
- Josh_Soref, you wanted to ask if we can invite all WG members
- 15:41:06 [darobin]
- merry christmas! happy new year!
- 15:41:36 [fjh]
- +1 robin
- 15:41:44 [Josh_Soref]
- Deepanshu: we need passport numbers, expiry date, date of issue, date of birth, place of birth, place of issue
- 15:41:59 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i'm not sure about the specifics, but it seems to have specific things
- 15:42:18 [Josh_Soref]
- ... i'll get back on the list as soon as i know
- 15:42:22 [Josh_Soref]
- Topic: Closing
- 15:42:27 [Josh_Soref]
- fjh: have a happy new year
- 15:42:28 [Zakim]
- -dom
- 15:42:29 [Zakim]
- -Clarke
- 15:42:30 [Zakim]
- -Claes
- 15:42:30 [Josh_Soref]
- [ bye ]
- 15:42:31 [Zakim]
- -richt
- 15:42:31 [Zakim]
- -AnssiK
- 15:42:32 [Zakim]
- -bryan
- 15:42:32 [Zakim]
- -Pieter
- 15:42:33 [Zakim]
- -Deepanshu_Gautam
- 15:42:33 [Josh_Soref]
- RRSAgent, make minutes
- 15:42:33 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
- 15:42:35 [Zakim]
- -darobin
- 15:42:37 [Zakim]
- -Jon_Gunderson
- 15:42:39 [Zakim]
- -fjh
- 15:42:42 [Zakim]
- -Dsr
- 15:42:45 [Zakim]
- -Cathy
- 15:42:53 [Zakim]
- -glenn
- 15:43:02 [glenn]
- glenn has left #dap
- 15:43:16 [Josh_Soref]
- Zakim, end call
- 15:43:16 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'end call', Josh_Soref
- 15:43:22 [Josh_Soref]
- Zakim, help
- 15:43:22 [Zakim]
- Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
- 15:43:25 [Zakim]
- Some of the commands I know are:
- 15:43:27 [Zakim]
- xxx is yyy - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
- 15:43:29 [Zakim]
- if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
- 15:43:32 [Zakim]
- xxx may be yyy - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
- 15:43:35 [Zakim]
- I am xxx - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
- 15:43:37 [Zakim]
- xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
- 15:43:40 [Zakim]
- xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
- 15:43:42 [Zakim]
- who's here? - lists the participants on the phone
- 15:43:44 [Zakim]
- who's muted? - lists the participants who are muted
- 15:43:46 [Zakim]
- mute xxx - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
- 15:43:48 [Zakim]
- unmute xxx - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
- 15:43:51 [Zakim]
- is xxx here? - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
- 15:43:54 [Zakim]
- list conferences - reports the active conferences
- 15:43:56 [Zakim]
- this is xxx - associates this channel with conference xxx
- 15:43:58 [Zakim]
- excuse us - disconnects from the irc channel
- 15:44:00 [Zakim]
- I last learned something new on $Date: 2010/03/15 18:49:04 $
- 15:44:09 [Josh_Soref]
- Zakim, excuse us
- 15:44:09 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees were glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, Nigil, fjh, Dsr, +46.1.08.01.aaaa, Claes, Pieter, Clarke, Cathy, darobin, dom,
- 15:44:09 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #dap
- 15:44:13 [Zakim]
- ... +1.425.214.aabb, Jon_Gunderson, bryan
- 15:44:23 [Josh_Soref]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 15:44:23 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-actions.rdf :
- 15:44:23 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Robin to reply to China Unicom and LG about hosting [1]
- 15:44:23 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-irc#T15-16-54
- 15:44:23 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Robin to figure out if the Intents TF wants to meet as part of DAP F2F [2]
- 15:44:23 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-irc#T15-30-45