See also: IRC log
<boris> also regrets from richard?
<Ashok> scribenick: juansequeda
<Ashok> scribe: Juan
+1
RESOLUTION: minutes of the last meeting are accepted
ACTION-159?
<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
boris: ACTION-159 is still
open
... I'm planning to work this week on this
ashok: we have received several
comments
... we have to acknowledge all of the comments
... think about them and resolve
... afterwards, we need to ask if whatever we end up doing is
acceptable
... first thing to do is to acknowledge the comments
Can Souri, Seema and Juan reply with an acknowledgement
Souri: yes we can, but some emails present several comments together
ashok: we need to create separate
issues
... souri, you update the editors draft?
souri: the editors draft content is the same as the last call
<Souri> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/
ashok: I haven't seen any comment
that is fundamental. Just typos and minor comments
... we can start talking about them next week
... who is going to be a tpac?
<Souri> It is unlikely that I'll be able to go to TPAC
juansequeda: still not sure
ericP: I won't be going
... Can non-WG members show up to the meeting?
ashok: I personally have no difficulty on that, but what usually happens?
<ericP> PROPOSED: that the F2F at TPAC be open to the public given space and notification
ericP: if there is a member-only list, then it's usually closed because people say things in a small room that they wouldn't say to the whole worlds. Otherwise, it's usually open
<ericP> APPROVED
<ericP> (tacitly)
<Seema> I won't be able to make it to TPAC
If no editors can attend, can we dial in?
<Souri> who else is certain and certainly-not?
<Ashok> Yes, I will get us a Zakim conference
ashok: I will get a zakim
conference
... so people can dialin
<ericP> i am likely to be able to dial in
MacTed: I don't think anybody from Openlink will be able to attend f2f
<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
boris: we have 15 database
cases
... 15 direct mapping cases and 21 r2rml cases
<boris> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests
boris: currently all the test
cases are in the repository
... I'm going to check the test cases that we have with the
current version of r2rml and direct mapping
... and I'm going to include new testcases
... so I'll ask everybody to take a look at this next week
<scribe> ... new testcases for next telcon
ashok: this is going to be a
critical thing when we want to get the standard approved.
... question: how do I tell if the test cases cover all the
functionalities?
<Souri> coverage completeness
boris: for every part of the spec, we have to create a test?
ashok: more than that. we also need to demonstrate that
boris: I'll think about it
ashok: and we only need to cover
our functionalities. We dont' need to test for example jdbc
connection, etc
... another question to think about: if you have an
implementation that pass all the test cases, how do we keep a
record of that?
boris: we started to discuss this a while ago. some ideas are on the wiki
<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestHarness
ericP: I can talk about testing
in sparql
... we had a bunch of tests that we used in our
discussion.
... and we organized the test cases
... anybody would have to consume the rdf, consume the
test
... and return the results in a specific testing language
(ericP explaining how they did testing in SPARQL WG)
boris: I will propose new feature and send it to the mailing list
<boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations
<Ashok> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations
ericP is implementing direct mapping (materialized and unmaterialized)
Morph, from UPM is implementing R2RML
OpenLink Virtuoso will be releasing R2RML implementation any time soon
Revelytix already has an implementation of R2RML and will be revamping with the latest changes this month
Ultrawrap has implemented Direct Mapping and R2RML and will be releasing soon
XSPARQL has implemented Direct Mapping and R2RML
Oracle is working on it but can't say much at the moment
ashok: anything else?
ericP: yes: datatype mappings
(ericP talking about how he dealt with datatypes in Direct Mapping, which was a bit different from R2RML spec)
ericP: advice on how to deal with datatype mappings?
ashok: I can look at that
<Souri> When we map from SQL, I thought the (virtually) generated data will all be in canonical form.
<ericP> Ashok, Eric Prud'hommeaux32-G628
Ashok
or somebody
can you generate the minutes?
<ericP> Ashok, Eric Prud'hommeaux/32-G628/32 Vassar St./Cambridge, MA 02140
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