IRC log of htmlt on 2011-09-06
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- 15:02:00 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/06-htmlt-irc
- 15:02:17 [krisk]
- zakim, this is htmlt
- 15:02:17 [Zakim]
- sorry, krisk, I do not see a conference named 'htmlt' in progress or scheduled at this time
- 15:03:49 [krisk]
- Looks like this will be all on IRC
- 15:04:26 [krisk]
- Normal given the past meetings...
- 15:04:46 [krisk]
- Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Sep/0001.html
- 15:05:48 [krisk]
- Looks like a light meeting agenda...
- 15:06:01 [krisk]
- Item #1 Check for and bugs on approved tests
- 15:06:22 [krisk]
- Bug #12896 (old)
- 15:06:51 [krisk]
- I recall that we were going to have plh come back to confirm that this is true
- 15:07:18 [krisk]
- I'll send this out in the meeting notes since it's been a little while
- 15:07:56 [krisk]
- I presume that Ms2ger believes that this is a valid bug since he opened the bug
- 15:08:32 [krisk]
- If anyone else has feedback please respond either to the IRC, Meeting notes or in the bug itself
- 15:09:05 [krisk]
- I'll add this to the next meeting to help drive this bug to closure
- 15:09:14 [Ms2ger]
- Actually
- 15:09:41 [Ms2ger]
- getElementsByClassName is now defined in DOM Core instead of HTML
- 15:10:13 [Ms2ger]
- So I'll move these tests to the WebApps repo
- 15:10:43 [krisk]
- You should ping the Opera folks since the wrote most of the tests
- 15:11:04 [Ms2ger]
- jgraham, ^
- 15:11:57 [krisk]
- IMHO standard practice is to remove tests if they are no longer normative
- 15:12:23 [krisk]
- Bug #13875
- 15:13:25 [krisk]
- Ms2ger could you send something to the list or add to the bug maybe a use case using httpd.js vs php?
- 15:13:49 [Ms2ger]
- Haven't had time to spend on that yet
- 15:14:19 [krisk]
- Ok
- 15:20:53 [krisk]
- Looks like you fixed/updated some canvas tests
- 15:21:01 [krisk]
- (you meaning ms2ger)
- 15:21:08 [Ms2ger]
- I did
- 15:22:14 [krisk]
- The TYPE_MISMATCH_ERR should be noted
- 15:22:25 [krisk]
- Do you want to add more to the IRC on these changes?
- 15:22:51 [Ms2ger]
- No
- 15:25:52 [krisk]
- Any reason?
- 15:26:20 [krisk]
- The reason I ask is that this error case had really good browser interop (chrome, IE, Firefox, Opera)
- 15:26:30 [Ms2ger]
- Oh
- 15:27:00 [krisk]
- No this is not the case...the IDL spec is leading - which seems odd
- 15:27:28 [krisk]
- It would be alot easier to have the IDL spec just match all the browsers and canvas content on the web
- 15:28:40 [Ms2ger]
- It doesn't really matter which exception is thrown, IMO
- 15:28:51 [Ms2ger]
- Might as well pick a logical one
- 15:31:39 [krisk]
- e.code == 17 (TYPE_MISMATCH_ERR) seems just fine
- 15:33:05 [Ms2ger]
- Anyway, if you think it's an issue, it's a spec issue
- 15:34:08 [krisk]
- If we just care that an assert is thrown then the HTML test should be updated as such
- 15:34:37 [krisk]
- Seems like it would be more valid to have some IDL cases in webapps rather then trying to test the web IDL spec via HTML tests
- 15:35:03 [Ms2ger]
- WebIDL is a normative dependency for HTML, so we should test the implications of that
- 15:37:23 [krisk]
- That is fine just ned to call this out - better to be clear that this is a web IDL test case and not a HTML test case
- 15:37:37 [Ms2ger]
- It is an HTML test case
- 15:37:49 [Ms2ger]
- It is testing an interface defined in HTML
- 15:38:33 [krisk]
- Still seems like a spec bug in IDL
- 15:39:37 [Ms2ger]
- I think TypeError makes more sense when you pass a value that doesn't match the type of the parameter, but please file a bug on WebIDL
- 15:40:42 [krisk]
- Moving on Agenda Item #2 new test submissions
- 15:43:18 [krisk]
- Any comments on test submission that people may want to be informed of?
- 15:45:12 [Ms2ger]
- Nothing in particular
- 15:45:28 [krisk]
- OK - people can always look at the 'shortlog' http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/shortlog
- 15:46:03 [krisk]
- Thats the end of the agenda
- 15:46:08 [krisk]
- shall we adjourn?
- 15:46:18 [Ms2ger]
- OK
- 15:47:38 [krisk]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 15:47:46 [krisk]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 15:47:46 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/06-htmlt-minutes.html krisk
- 15:53:10 [jgraham]
- Oops
- 15:53:15 [jgraham]
- Forgot about this...
- 15:53:59 [Ms2ger]
- While you're here, you can move these getElementsByClassName tests: )
- 15:54:35 [jgraham]
- Or I could pretend that I didn't hear you
- 15:57:35 [Ms2ger]
- This is IRC, sticking fingers in your ears won't help :)
- 16:14:45 [jgraham]
- It's OK I stuck them in my eyes too
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- 17:33:48 [Ms2ger]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 17:33:48 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items