IRC log of htmlspeech on 2011-08-25

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Scribe: Michael_Bodell

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ScribeNick: mbodell

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Meeting: HTML Speech Web API discussion

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Aug/0028.html

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Chair: Michael_Bodell

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discuss http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Aug/att-0030/speechwepapi.html

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Date: 25 August 2011

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Regrets: Dan_Druta

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s/Regrets: Dan_Druta//

16:16:06 [Zakim]

+Satish_Sampath

16:16:11 [mbodell]

changes to section 3: remove bind and unbind

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changes to section 3: add a method to createSpeech[Input|Output]Request on the SpeechRequest interface

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issues to section 4: query needs to be async

16:23:14 [mbodell]

issues to section 4: need a function to return the service based on the URI for the service

16:24:00 [mbodell]

issues to section 4: need a way to do authorization, possibly as a name/password options in query options, possibly as authorization for an authorization header, possibly just as proprietary stuff on the URI

16:26:33 [mbodell]

changes to section 3: change the type enum to be a bitfield so TTS is 1, ASR is 2, and don't need TTSASR if you have TTS | ASR

16:27:13 [mbodell]

issue to section 3: remove the state

16:27:53 [Milan]

Sorry folks, I have to drop early today.

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-Milan_Young

16:30:53 [mbodell]

changes to section 4: need Query to be more specific if this is on Window

16:31:34 [mbodell]

issue to section 4: maybe have constructor and set things?

16:32:43 [mbodell]

changes to section 4: add successCallBack and failureCallBack to the specific speechQuery function

16:34:08 [mbodell]

changes to section 4: merge filter and options (the criteria is in the option, probably as a flat list)

16:35:43 [mbodell]

changes to section 4: filter on required languages and required service type and possibly other things...

16:36:52 [mbodell]

changes to section 4: possible filter on audio codecs as well

16:38:43 [Robert]

I don't think you'll ever get browsers to implement SDP for anyhting other than peer-to-peer voip calls

16:41:33 [Robert]

I'm having network problems.. audio keeps dropping out

16:42:54 [mbodell]

possible issue to 3: we can have multiple of these, should state that, they go away with garbage collection, only issue is how long does the service stay open after a query, do we need some explicit close/reattach (bind/unbind) or do we just not care...

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-Robert_Brown

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+[Microsoft]

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changes to section 5: possible remove form attribute or control... possibly not since this really does tie it to the element properly

16:54:27 [burn]

on the last issue in 3, above, we decided that we currently believe that we do not need to specify whether the web service connection needs to remain open for a speech service.

16:54:27 [mbodell]

changes to section 5: Need better definition of "recoable elements", probably listing all such elements

16:55:04 [mbodell]

section 5: htmlFor is definitely fine, later discussion sounds like control is fine too

17:00:18 [mbodell]

issue to section 5: need some sentence about security model, but that probably ties to request object and not the reco element

17:00:56 [mbodell]

issue on section 3 or 4: possibly need a way to check if you have permission to do recognition, method on Service (or on Query?)

17:03:05 [mbodell]

issue on section 5: Need a way to get at the SpeechRequest associated with the reco element

17:07:34 [mbodell]

issue on section 5: have a SpeechInputRequest attribute of reco that is the tied request... this could have the default UA service or a service based on URI attribute. From scripting if you get a new SIR you can set the attribute to associate the new SIR with this reco element

17:11:42 [satish]

Have to leave now, see you next week.

17:11:45 [Zakim]

-Satish_Sampath

17:14:33 [mbodell]

issue on section 6: same kind of idea with section 5, with a SpeechOutputRequest instead of SpeechInputRequest

17:19:12 [mbodell]

issue for section 6 (and generally): Link to the definitions in HTML 5 (for HTMLMediaElement, but also for "potentially playing", etc.)

17:19:37 [mbodell]

possible issue for section 6: think about CSS audio last call and if it effects section 6

17:19:40 [Charles]

Last Call: CSS Speech Module: http://www.w3.org/News/2011.html#entry-9181

17:21:02 [mbodell]

issue with section 7: missing the actual recognize() function

17:21:39 [mbodell]

issue with section 7: need an attribute to associate the Service on the SIR (probably read only)

17:23:45 [mbodell]

for the method need start, stop, cancel Recognition()

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s/for/changes to section 7: for/

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issue for section 7: possibly better to call stop, finish, in terms of naming

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-Bjorn_Bringert

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+Bjorn_Bringert

17:29:33 [mbodell]

issues for section 7: maybe need some sort of grammar object (better for caching, and don't need DOM string)

17:30:02 [mbodell]

issue for section 7: need some text that describes what happens if someone sets some of these in recognition and some of these not

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rrsagent, make log public

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issue for section 8: have language in the SpeechOutputRequest

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-Glen_Shires

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-Bjorn_Bringert

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-Olli_Pettay

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-Debbie_Dahl

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/25-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn

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-[Microsoft]

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-Charles_Hemphill

17:31:23 [burn]

zakim, who's here?

17:31:23 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Dan_Burnett, Michael_Bodell

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On IRC I see RRSAgent, bringert, mbodell, burn, Zakim, smaug, trackbot

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-Dan_Burnett

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-Michael_Bodell

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INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM has ended

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Attendees were Olli_Pettay, Dan_Burnett, Michael_Bodell, +1.650.440.aaaa, Robert_Brown, Bjorn_Bringert, +1.408.359.aabb, Debbie_Dahl, Glen_Shires, Charles_Hemphill, Milan_Young,

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... Satish_Sampath, [Microsoft]

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zakim, bye

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s/, [Microsoft]//

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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