IRC log of hcls on 2011-06-16

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-hcls-irc
14:49:50 [ericP]
Zakim, this will be hcls
14:49:50 [Zakim]
"hcls" matches SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, and SW_HCLS()11:00AM, ericP
14:49:55 [ericP]
Zakim, this will be sw_hcls
14:49:55 [Zakim]
"sw_hcls" matches SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, and SW_HCLS()11:00AM, ericP
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15:02:10 [ericP]
Zakim, who is here?
15:02:41 [Zakim]
sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is
15:02:56 [ericP]
Zakim, this is sw_hcls()
15:03:21 [Zakim]
On IRC I see BobP, RRSAgent, Zakim, ericP
15:03:37 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM
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+??P14
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zakim, who is here?
15:05:43 [ericP]
http://www.w3.org/2011/05/HCLSIGCharter-proposal
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+DBooth
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+ +1.301.443.aabb
15:06:11 [dbooth]
zakim, mute me
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On the phone I see Bob_Powers, +1.617.324.aaaa, ??P14, DBooth, +1.301.443.aabb
15:06:31 [iker]
zakim, P14 it is me
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DBooth should now be muted
15:06:54 [BobP]
scribenick BobP
15:07:03 [Zakim]
On IRC I see DaveHauNCI, iker, dbooth, BobP, RRSAgent, Zakim, ericP
15:07:14 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'P14 it is me', iker
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15:08:31 [BobP]
ericP: Brag sheet for TMO, or high level use cases. What is the next doc to write?
15:08:45 [iker]
me neither
15:09:09 [BobP]
... humm,,,
15:09:22 [dbooth]
I think stepping through would make sense
15:10:12 [BobP]
Heard from Michel and Scott.
15:10:16 [dbooth]
I think reviewing the documents would make sense.
15:11:07 [BobP]
... presented at the meeting in London. Protocol-driven research
15:11:30 [BobP]
... modify the standard to fit to the BRIDG model
15:11:46 [BobP]
ericP: Liason to them? for charter
15:12:09 [Zakim]
+??P57
15:12:33 [BobP]
FDA in long term needs to expand regulatory, semantics, etc
15:12:57 [BobP]
ericP: Two diff communities for similar stuff.
15:13:33 [BobP]
Onts. cover tissue, main touch points to bridg, biobanking
15:14:00 [BobP]
ericP: Experiments need to capture context; touches on Pfizer, Pistoia want to do
15:14:42 [BobP]
... having worked out onts, given schema for graph struct, ont for grounding
15:15:08 [BobP]
... then intersection between bridg and lsdam
15:15:47 [BobP]
HCLS work shines; collaboration could bring strengths to table
15:16:00 [BobP]
... harmonize to one project, maybe
15:16:14 [BobP]
ericP: Give us use cases
15:16:50 [BobP]
Harmonizes to HL7 RIM modeling; possibly FDA, could contribute to effort
15:18:10 [BobP]
Michel: Was invited w Scott, Alan Ruttenberg
15:18:36 [BobP]
... not clear what the mandate was. Ended up disseminating to WGs
15:19:04 [BobP]
... WGs on imaging, provenance; I went to WG on patient care
15:19:39 [BobP]
... snomed, etc; They don't yet grok semweb. Explained for vocab managment, integration
15:20:18 [BobP]
... some nice work, to mark up notes w bioPortal vocab; pile of codes for visits
15:20:30 [BobP]
... can do longitudinal with that.
15:20:52 [BobP]
... also tried to get patient record data, but couldn't quite
15:21:21 [BobP]
... see HCLS as a potential partner; need to visibly engage these groups and work w them
15:21:30 [BobP]
ericP: Targets?
15:22:04 [BobP]
Michel: Have a diversity of interests; can help them develop. Interested in SADI etc
15:22:30 [BobP]
... linked data projects, don't quite understand the governance, lack of support, etc
15:22:46 [BobP]
... some things that we need to work out to ensure the confidence in our product
15:23:03 [BobP]
ericP: Produce less LOD, but better life cycle?
15:23:42 [BobP]
Michel: Perhaps. Notes on how to accomplish these tasks; we still should describe how to use tech
15:24:05 [BobP]
ericP: Matthais is excited w clincical decision support
15:24:34 [BobP]
Michel: Meeting kept pushing on how it helps patient care; tech details
15:24:47 [BobP]
... we have tech, not applying correctly?
15:25:20 [BobP]
... patientsLikeMe, how can we make it better for patients, as opposed to for doctors
15:25:58 [BobP]
ericP: Doctor work will help patients; but patient appeal would be tools that allow them to explore their disease
15:26:29 [BobP]
... most immediate case for patient would be <disease-centric?>
15:27:03 [BobP]
... also patient registries would allow them to contribute to massive data
15:27:20 [BobP]
Michel: Need to address improved care rather than research
15:27:47 [BobP]
... patients are very active. Agree that marketplace over patient data would be valuable
15:28:20 [BobP]
... but not clear to me that beyond condition, treatment, outcome would be interesting
15:28:36 [BobP]
... but - are interested in clinical trials.
15:29:04 [dbooth]
q+ to comment on use cases document: http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/HighLevelUseCases
15:29:13 [BobP]
ONC is started to employ, >2015
15:30:21 [BobP]
ericP: Chartering. Thx to Dave and Michel.
15:30:27 [dbooth]
ack dbooth
15:30:28 [Zakim]
dbooth, you wanted to comment on use cases document: http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/HighLevelUseCases
15:30:49 [BobP]
dbooth: Want to comment on use cases
15:30:55 [dbooth]
Personalized medicine
15:30:59 [BobP]
... two other things to include:
15:31:25 [BobP]
... somewhat related to section on data ownership. Important potential here.
15:31:30 [dbooth]
Healthcare quality measurement
15:31:54 [BobP]
... partially mentioned in pharmaco-vigilance
15:32:05 [BobP]
... would like to see HC quality measurement in title
15:32:52 [BobP]
ericP: Same data, same mechanism; however the way we talk is different when talk to different communities
15:33:09 [DaveHauNCI]
Report on Learning Healthcare System (Institute of Medicine): http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2011/Digital-Infrastructure-for-a-Learning-Health-System.aspx
15:33:27 [DaveHauNCI]
ONC slide deck on Learning Healthcare System: http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Quality/VSRT/Digital%20Infrastructure%20Release/Charles%20Friedman.pdf
15:34:53 [BobP]
dbooth: Research and bedside have different liability profiles
15:35:54 [BobP]
ericP: Next steps on charter. Couple of months extension; draft is pretty there
15:36:19 [BobP]
... is it optimal? Expect to get warm-fuzzy soon
15:36:50 [BobP]
... opportunity for outreach: brag-sheets for translational and high-level use cases
15:37:33 [BobP]
... give us the necessary text for customers, outreach material more important than charter
15:37:57 [BobP]
Michel: Will comment on docs
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-DBooth
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Attendees were Bob_Powers, +1.617.324.aaaa, DBooth, +1.301.443.aabb
15:38:35 [dbooth]
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Meeting: HCLS
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Chair: EricP
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Present: Michel Dumontier, Iker, Dave Hau, EricP, Bob_Powers, +1.617.324.aaaa, DBooth, +1.301.443.aabb
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