IRC log of dap on 2011-06-08

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RRSAgent, make logs world

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Zakim, this will be DAP

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ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes

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Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 08 June 2011

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0016.html

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Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch

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Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch

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Regrets+ Dong-Young_Lee, Dzung_Tran

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UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started

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+??P9

13:58:46 [fjh]

zakim, ?? is me

13:58:46 [Zakim]

+fjh; got it

13:59:25 [Sungok_You]

+Present Sungok_You

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+ +1.781.534.aaaa

14:01:22 [lgombos]

Present+ Laszlo_Gombos

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+??P10

14:01:30 [AnssiK]

Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen

14:01:32 [lgombos]

Zakim: +1.781.534.aaaa is me

14:01:42 [fjh]

zakim, aaaa is lgombos

14:01:42 [Zakim]

+lgombos; got it

14:01:46 [AnssiK]

zakim, ??P10 is me

14:01:46 [Zakim]

+AnssiK; got it

14:02:06 [Zakim]

+??P12

14:02:12 [darobin]

Zakim, ??P12 is me

14:02:12 [Zakim]

+darobin; got it

14:02:32 [Zakim]

+??P13

14:02:58 [dom]

Zakim, code?

14:02:58 [Zakim]

the conference code is 3279 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), dom

14:02:58 [Sungok_You]

zakim, P13 is me

14:03:00 [Zakim]

sorry, Sungok_You, I do not recognize a party named 'P13'

14:03:10 [Zakim]

+??P14

14:03:15 [dom]

Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux

14:03:20 [fjh]

zakim, ??P13 is sungok_you

14:03:20 [Zakim]

+sungok_you; got it

14:03:20 [dom]

Zakim, ??P14 is me

14:03:21 [Zakim]

+dom; got it

14:03:26 [fjh]

zakim, who is here?

14:03:26 [Zakim]

On the phone I see fjh, lgombos, AnssiK, darobin, sungok_you, dom

14:03:28 [Zakim]

On IRC I see AnssiK, nwidell, Sungok_You, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, darobin, wmaslowski, homata_, richt, ingmar, ilkka, lgombos, dom, trackbot

14:04:46 [fjh]

zakim, who is making noise?

14:04:56 [Zakim]

fjh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fjh (15%), darobin (18%)

14:05:20 [darobin]

ScribeNick: lgombos

14:05:26 [fjh]

Topic: Administrative

14:05:34 [darobin]

Scribe: Laszlo

14:05:37 [fjh]

19-21 July F2F logistics, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Apr/0000.html

14:05:37 [fjh]

Please register - http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/paris-2011/

14:05:49 [fjh]

Chartering

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see http://www.w3.org/2010/11/DeviceAPICharter.html

14:05:49 [fjh]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2011AprJun/0041.html

14:06:03 [fjh]

updated WD of Battery Status published, http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-battery-status-20110602/

14:06:11 [fjh]

FPWD of Network Information API published, http://www.w3.org/TR/netinfo-api/

14:06:45 [lgombos]

dom: Review period of the charter is extended

14:06:57 [fjh]

s/extended/extended to 19 June

14:07:18 [lgombos]

Topic: Minutes approval

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/att-0004/minutes-2011-06-01.html

14:07:32 [fjh]

proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 1 June 2011 are approved

14:07:40 [lgombos]

RESOLUTION: Minutes from 1 June 2011 are approved

14:07:44 [Zakim]

+ +46.1.07.15.aabb

14:07:54 [nwidell]

zakim, aabb is nwidell

14:07:54 [Zakim]

+nwidell; got it

14:08:14 [fjh]

Topic: Contacts

14:08:36 [lgombos]

darobin: How do we proceed with the URI proposal

14:09:25 [darobin]

ACTION: Robin to edit Contacts to change the photo field to only take URIs

14:09:25 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-407 - Edit Contacts to change the photo field to only take URIs [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].

14:09:29 [nwidell]

Present+ Niklas_Widell

14:11:12 [lgombos]

ACTION: Dom to check if dom + Suresh'es comments are integrated

14:11:12 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-408 - Check if dom + Suresh'es comments are integrated [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2011-06-15].

14:11:28 [darobin]

proposed RESOLUTION: Transition Contacts to LC after ACTION-407 and ACTION-408 are completed

14:11:44 [lgombos]

RESOLUTION: Transition Contacts to LC after ACTION-407 and ACTION-408 are completed

14:12:17 [lgombos]

Topic: Battery status

14:12:23 [fjh]

comments/response http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0011.html

14:12:47 [fjh]

battery status updated by Anssi, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0019.html

14:13:13 [Zakim]

+ +82.31.30.1.aacc

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14:14:26 [lgombos]

AnssiK: Perhaps we need to add use-cases to the spec

14:14:28 [dom]

Zakim, aacc is probably wonsuk

14:14:28 [Zakim]

+wonsuk?; got it

14:15:05 [darobin]

http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-page-visibility-20110602/ -> Page Visibility

14:15:13 [fjh]

an introduction section would be useful

14:15:56 [dom]

+1 on pinging Web perf

14:16:07 [lgombos]

AnssiK: collect feedback from the Web performance group

14:16:43 [darobin]

http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-animation-timing-20110602/ -> Timing control for script-based animations

14:18:45 [darobin]

ACTION: Anssi to add introductory prose and example to Battery, ping Robin when done

14:18:45 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-409 - Add introductory prose and example to Battery, ping Robin when done [on Anssi Kostiainen - due 2011-06-15].

14:19:14 [fjh]

Regrets+ Suresh_Chitturi

14:19:32 [AnssiK]

http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/battery-status.html

14:19:40 [AnssiK]

see the last example bottom of the page

14:19:43 [darobin]

ACTION: Start CfC for Battery LC after Anssi has done at least the example that ties it to WebPerf; ping WebPerf as part of the CfC

14:19:43 [trackbot]

Sorry, couldn't find user - Start

14:19:50 [darobin]

ACTION: Robin to start CfC for Battery LC after Anssi has done at least the example that ties it to WebPerf; ping WebPerf as part of the CfC

14:19:50 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-410 - Start CfC for Battery LC after Anssi has done at least the example that ties it to WebPerf; ping WebPerf as part of the CfC [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].

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-dom

14:20:59 [dom]

darn

14:21:05 [dom]

s/darn//

14:21:42 [Zakim]

+??P14

14:21:43 [fjh]

how stable is the animation draft, for using it in an example?

14:22:07 [dom]

Zakim, ??P14 is me

14:22:07 [Zakim]

+dom; got it

14:22:32 [dom]

animation draft is very early work, but I wouldn't worry too much about it yet

14:24:07 [fjh]

page visibility http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-page-visibility-20110602/

14:24:11 [dom]

how do we intend to make progress on these "other APIs"?

14:24:21 [lgombos]

RESOLUTION: AnssiK to do ACTION-409

14:24:43 [fjh]

ACTION-409?

14:24:43 [trackbot]

ACTION-409 -- Anssi Kostiainen to add introductory prose and example to Battery, ping Robin when done -- due 2011-06-15 -- OPEN

14:24:43 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/409

14:25:18 [fjh]

comments on network information, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0017.html

14:25:37 [fjh]

Topic: Network Connection

14:25:44 [fjh]

comments on network information, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0017.html

14:26:39 [Kangchan]

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14:26:50 [fjh]

list discussion needed on these comments?

14:27:23 [darobin]

ACTION: Robin to reply to Jo about NetInfo

14:27:23 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-411 - Reply to Jo about NetInfo [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].

14:27:39 [fjh]

Topic: Other APIs

14:27:52 [Zakim]

+??P19

14:28:03 [Kangchan]

zakim, it's me

14:28:03 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'it's me', Kangchan

14:28:09 [dom]

q+ to mention http://blogs.msdn.com/b/interoperability/archive/2011/06/07/new-media-capture-audio-prototype-released.aspx

14:28:15 [Kangchan]

zakim, ??P19 is Kangchan

14:28:15 [Zakim]

+Kangchan; got it

14:28:48 [darobin]

ACTION: Robin to go through inactive specs and ping editors to get a feel for their commitment to more work

14:28:48 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-412 - Go through inactive specs and ping editors to get a feel for their commitment to more work [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].

14:29:22 [Kangchan]

Present+ Kangchan_Lee

14:29:52 [AnssiK]

q+

14:30:00 [fjh]

ack dom

14:30:00 [Zakim]

dom, you wanted to mention http://blogs.msdn.com/b/interoperability/archive/2011/06/07/new-media-capture-audio-prototype-released.aspx

14:30:08 [fjh]

ack anssik

14:30:48 [darobin]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2011Mar/att-0001/microsoft-api-draft-final.html#capture_api_extensions -> MS feedback

14:31:47 [lgombos]

AnssiK: Media capture does not seems to have an active editor

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14:32:06 [lgombos]

darobin: next step should be to review MS feedback

14:33:40 [darobin]

http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/#api-invocation-via-dom-events

14:38:52 [dom]

(adding the mention of Web RTC work in MEdia Capture would be good too)

14:39:02 [fjh]

s/MEdia/Media/

14:39:28 [darobin]

ACTION: Robin to contact Claudio Caldato from MS and discuss media capture

14:39:28 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-413 - Contact Claudio Caldato from MS and discuss media capture [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].

14:41:52 [darobin]

ACTION: Anssi to write up an overview of the media capture landscape, with ideas of how to move forward

14:41:53 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-414 - Write up an overview of the media capture landscape, with ideas of how to move forward [on Anssi Kostiainen - due 2011-06-15].

14:44:12 [fjh]

q+

14:44:25 [lgombos]

Topic: Calendar

14:44:29 [Zakim]

-nwidell

14:44:47 [lgombos]

darobin: Action item for timezone is still open

14:45:13 [lgombos]

darobin: Let's progress Contacts first and Calendar will follow

14:45:33 [darobin]

ack fjh

14:46:21 [darobin]

http://w3c-test.org/dap/proposals/request-feature/ -> FRAC

14:46:27 [wonsuk]

q+

14:46:33 [darobin]

ack wonsuk

14:47:39 [dom]

the plan is more or less documented in http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/105

14:48:30 [darobin]

ACTION-391?

14:48:30 [trackbot]

ACTION-391 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look at overlap between MediaFileData and HTMLVideoElement -- due 2011-04-27 -- OPEN

14:48:30 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/391

14:49:24 [darobin]

ISSUE-105?

14:49:24 [trackbot]

ISSUE-105 -- Should the capture hint in HTML Media Capture be specified through a MIME parameter? -- open

14:49:24 [trackbot]

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/105

14:50:06 [fjh]

Topic: Adjourn

14:50:10 [darobin]

http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/paris-2011/

14:50:16 [fjh]

reminder, register for F2F

14:50:26 [darobin]

http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/dap-2/

14:50:27 [fjh]

reminder AC rep vote needed on rechartering

14:50:38 [Zakim]

-Kangchan

14:50:42 [Zakim]

-wonsuk?

14:50:43 [Zakim]

-darobin

14:50:43 [Zakim]

-sungok_you

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-dom

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-AnssiK

14:50:48 [fjh]

rrsagent, generate minutes

14:50:48 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/08-dap-minutes.html fjh

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-fjh

14:50:51 [Zakim]

-lgombos

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UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were fjh, +1.781.534.aaaa, lgombos, AnssiK, darobin, sungok_you, dom, +46.1.07.15.aabb, nwidell, +82.31.30.1.aacc, wonsuk?, Kangchan

14:51:24 [fjh]

s/Zakim: +1.781.534.aaaa is me//

14:51:53 [darobin]

RRSAgent: stop