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13:49:22 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
13:49:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
13:49:23 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
13:49:23 <trackbot> Date: 08 June 2011
13:49:51 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0016.html
13:50:34 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:50:37 <fjh> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:51:47 <fjh> Regrets+ Dong-Young_Lee, Dzung_Tran
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13:58:36 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
13:58:43 <Zakim> +??P9
13:58:46 <fjh> zakim, ?? is me
13:58:46 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
13:59:25 <Sungok_You> +Present  Sungok_You
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14:01:20 <Zakim> + +1.781.534.aaaa
14:01:22 <lgombos> Present+ Laszlo_Gombos
14:01:26 <Zakim> +??P10
14:01:30 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
14:01:32 <lgombos> Zakim: +1.781.534.aaaa is me
14:01:42 <fjh> zakim, aaaa is lgombos
14:01:42 <Zakim> +lgombos; got it
14:01:46 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P10 is me
14:01:46 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
14:02:06 <Zakim> +??P12
14:02:12 <darobin> Zakim, ??P12 is me
14:02:12 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
14:02:32 <Zakim> +??P13
14:02:58 <dom> Zakim, code?
14:02:58 <Zakim> the conference code is 3279 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), dom
14:02:58 <Sungok_You> zakim, P13 is me
14:03:00 <Zakim> sorry, Sungok_You, I do not recognize a party named 'P13'
14:03:10 <Zakim> +??P14
14:03:15 <dom> Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
14:03:20 <fjh> zakim, ??P13 is sungok_you
14:03:20 <Zakim> +sungok_you; got it
14:03:20 <dom> Zakim, ??P14 is me
14:03:21 <Zakim> +dom; got it
14:03:26 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:03:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, lgombos, AnssiK, darobin, sungok_you, dom
14:03:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see AnssiK, nwidell, Sungok_You, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, darobin, wmaslowski, homata_, richt, ingmar, ilkka, lgombos, dom, trackbot
14:04:46 <fjh> zakim, who is making noise?
14:04:56 <Zakim> fjh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fjh (15%), darobin (18%)
14:05:20 <darobin> ScribeNick: lgombos 
14:05:26 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
14:05:34 <darobin> Scribe: Laszlo
14:05:37 <fjh> 19-21 July F2F logistics, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Apr/0000.html
14:05:37 <fjh> Please register -  http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/paris-2011/
14:05:49 <fjh> Chartering
14:05:49 <fjh> see http://www.w3.org/2010/11/DeviceAPICharter.html 
14:05:49 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2011AprJun/0041.html
14:06:03 <fjh> updated WD of Battery Status published, http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-battery-status-20110602/
14:06:11 <fjh> FPWD of Network Information API published, http://www.w3.org/TR/netinfo-api/
14:06:45 <lgombos> dom: Review period of the charter is extended
14:06:57 <fjh> s/extended/extended to 19 June
14:07:18 <lgombos> Topic: Minutes approval
14:07:29 <nwidell> nwidell has joined #dap
14:07:32 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/att-0004/minutes-2011-06-01.html
14:07:32 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 1 June  2011 are approved
14:07:40 <lgombos> RESOLUTION: Minutes from 1 June  2011 are approved
14:07:44 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.15.aabb
14:07:54 <nwidell> zakim, aabb is nwidell
14:07:54 <Zakim> +nwidell; got it
14:08:14 <fjh> Topic: Contacts
14:08:36 <lgombos> darobin: How do we proceed with the URI proposal
14:09:25 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to edit Contacts to change the photo field to only take URIs
14:09:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-407 - Edit Contacts to change the photo field to only take URIs [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].
14:09:29 <nwidell> Present+ Niklas_Widell
14:11:12 <lgombos> ACTION: Dom to check if dom + Suresh'es comments are integrated
14:11:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-408 - Check if dom + Suresh'es comments are integrated [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2011-06-15].
14:11:28 <darobin> proposed RESOLUTION: Transition Contacts to LC after ACTION-407 and ACTION-408 are completed
14:11:44 <lgombos> RESOLUTION: Transition Contacts to LC after ACTION-407 and ACTION-408 are completed
14:12:17 <lgombos> Topic: Battery status
14:12:23 <fjh> comments/response http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0011.html
14:12:47 <fjh> battery status updated by Anssi, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0019.html
14:13:13 <Zakim> + +82.31.30.1.aacc
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14:14:26 <lgombos> AnssiK: Perhaps we need to add use-cases to the spec
14:14:28 <dom> Zakim, aacc is probably wonsuk
14:14:28 <Zakim> +wonsuk?; got it
14:15:05 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-page-visibility-20110602/ -> Page Visibility
14:15:13 <fjh> an introduction section would be useful
14:15:56 <dom> +1 on pinging Web perf
14:16:07 <lgombos> AnssiK: collect feedback from the Web performance group
14:16:43 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-animation-timing-20110602/ -> Timing control for script-based animations
14:18:45 <darobin> ACTION: Anssi to add introductory prose and example to Battery, ping Robin when done
14:18:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-409 - Add introductory prose and example to Battery, ping Robin when done [on Anssi Kostiainen - due 2011-06-15].
14:19:14 <fjh> Regrets+ Suresh_Chitturi 
14:19:32 <AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/battery-status.html
14:19:40 <AnssiK> see the last example bottom of the page
14:19:43 <darobin> ACTION: Start CfC for Battery LC after Anssi has done at least the example that ties it to WebPerf; ping WebPerf as part of the CfC
14:19:43 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Start
14:19:50 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to start CfC for Battery LC after Anssi has done at least the example that ties it to WebPerf; ping WebPerf as part of the CfC
14:19:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-410 - Start CfC for Battery LC after Anssi has done at least the example that ties it to WebPerf; ping WebPerf as part of the CfC [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].
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14:20:49 <Zakim> -dom
14:20:59 <dom> darn
14:21:05 <dom> s/darn//
14:21:42 <Zakim> +??P14
14:21:43 <fjh> how stable is the animation draft, for using it in an example?
14:22:07 <dom> Zakim, ??P14 is me
14:22:07 <Zakim> +dom; got it
14:22:32 <dom> animation draft is very early work, but I wouldn't worry too much about it yet
14:24:07 <fjh> page visibility http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-page-visibility-20110602/
14:24:11 <dom> how do we intend to make progress on these "other APIs"?
14:24:21 <lgombos> RESOLUTION: AnssiK to do ACTION-409
14:24:43 <fjh> ACTION-409?
14:24:43 <trackbot> ACTION-409 -- Anssi Kostiainen to add introductory prose and example to Battery, ping Robin when done -- due 2011-06-15 -- OPEN
14:24:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/409
14:25:18 <fjh> comments on network information, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0017.html
14:25:37 <fjh> Topic: Network Connection
14:25:44 <fjh> comments on network information, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0017.html
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14:26:50 <fjh> list discussion needed on these comments?
14:27:23 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to reply to Jo about NetInfo
14:27:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-411 - Reply to Jo about NetInfo [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].
14:27:39 <fjh> Topic: Other APIs
14:27:52 <Zakim> +??P19
14:28:03 <Kangchan> zakim, it's me
14:28:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'it's me', Kangchan
14:28:09 <dom> q+ to mention http://blogs.msdn.com/b/interoperability/archive/2011/06/07/new-media-capture-audio-prototype-released.aspx
14:28:15 <Kangchan> zakim, ??P19 is Kangchan
14:28:15 <Zakim> +Kangchan; got it
14:28:48 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to go through inactive specs and ping editors to get a feel for their commitment to more work
14:28:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-412 - Go through inactive specs and ping editors to get a feel for their commitment to more work [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].
14:29:22 <Kangchan> Present+ Kangchan_Lee
14:29:52 <AnssiK> q+
14:30:00 <fjh> ack dom
14:30:00 <Zakim> dom, you wanted to mention http://blogs.msdn.com/b/interoperability/archive/2011/06/07/new-media-capture-audio-prototype-released.aspx
14:30:08 <fjh> ack anssik
14:30:48 <darobin> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2011Mar/att-0001/microsoft-api-draft-final.html#capture_api_extensions -> MS feedback
14:31:47 <lgombos> AnssiK: Media capture does not seems to have an active editor
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14:32:06 <lgombos> darobin: next step should be to review MS feedback
14:33:40 <darobin> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/#api-invocation-via-dom-events
14:38:52 <dom> (adding the mention of Web RTC work in MEdia Capture would be good too)
14:39:02 <fjh> s/MEdia/Media/
14:39:28 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to contact Claudio Caldato from MS and discuss media capture
14:39:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-413 - Contact Claudio Caldato from MS and discuss media capture [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-15].
14:41:52 <darobin> ACTION: Anssi to write up an overview of the media capture landscape, with ideas of how to move forward
14:41:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-414 - Write up an overview of the media capture landscape, with ideas of how to move forward [on Anssi Kostiainen - due 2011-06-15].
14:44:12 <fjh> q+
14:44:25 <lgombos> Topic: Calendar
14:44:29 <Zakim> -nwidell
14:44:47 <lgombos> darobin: Action item for timezone is still open
14:45:13 <lgombos> darobin: Let's progress Contacts first and Calendar will follow
14:45:33 <darobin> ack fjh
14:46:21 <darobin> http://w3c-test.org/dap/proposals/request-feature/ -> FRAC
14:46:27 <wonsuk> q+
14:46:33 <darobin> ack wonsuk 
14:47:39 <dom> the plan is more or less documented in http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/105
14:48:30 <darobin> ACTION-391?
14:48:30 <trackbot> ACTION-391 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look at overlap between MediaFileData and HTMLVideoElement -- due 2011-04-27 -- OPEN
14:48:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/391
14:49:24 <darobin> ISSUE-105?
14:49:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- Should the capture hint in HTML Media Capture be specified through a MIME parameter? -- open
14:49:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/105
14:50:06 <fjh> Topic: Adjourn
14:50:10 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/paris-2011/
14:50:16 <fjh> reminder, register for F2F
14:50:26 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/dap-2/
14:50:27 <fjh> reminder AC rep vote needed on rechartering
14:50:38 <Zakim> -Kangchan
14:50:42 <Zakim> -wonsuk?
14:50:43 <Zakim> -darobin
14:50:43 <Zakim> -sungok_you
14:50:44 <Zakim> -dom
14:50:47 <Zakim> -AnssiK
14:50:48 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:50:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/08-dap-minutes.html fjh
14:50:49 <Zakim> -fjh
14:50:51 <Zakim> -lgombos
14:50:53 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
14:50:55 <Zakim> Attendees were fjh, +1.781.534.aaaa, lgombos, AnssiK, darobin, sungok_you, dom, +46.1.07.15.aabb, nwidell, +82.31.30.1.aacc, wonsuk?, Kangchan
14:51:24 <fjh> s/Zakim: +1.781.534.aaaa is me//
14:51:53 <darobin> RRSAgent: stop