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HTML Weekly Teleconference

02 Jun 2011

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Radhika_Roy, [Microsoft], eliot, Sam, +1.212.478.aaaa, adrianba, Plh, +33.9.53.58.aabb, dpenkler, Cynthia_Shelly, Mike, Janina
Regrets
Chair
Paul Cotton
Scribe
Adrian Bateman

Contents


<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12839] @id: Define how Unicode normalization affects the 'unique identifier' status <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0038.html> 4** [Bug 12839] @id: Define how Unicode normalization affects the 'unique identifier' status <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0037.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12835] FIGCAPTION should be allowed to NOT be exactly first/last child of FIGURE ("The figcaption element" spec section) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0040.html> 4** [Bug 12076] <video> Recast WebVTT parser so that it first does line breaking then handles each line, instead of being character-oriented <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0039.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12839] @id: Define how Unicode normalization affects the 'unique identifier' status <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0042.html> 4** [Bug 12849] New: why is there a 'month' type but not 'year'? I need a 'year' field for a form (to collect year, make, model of cars) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0041.html>

<CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 62246244e9e5 r6174 10/ (index complete.html source): [e] (0) more notes on webvtt future features

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12849] why is there a 'month' type but not 'year'? I need a 'year' field for a form (to collect year, make, model of cars) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0044.html> 4** [Bug 12850] New: just test the comment system. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0043.html>

<pimpbot> planet: Jesper Kristensen: Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-06-01 <11http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/570>

<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12849] why is there a 'month' type but not 'year'? I need a 'year' field for a form (to collect year, make, model of cars)" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0045.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12851] New: Displaying such streams (both the locally-produced ones and the remotely-obtained ones) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0046.html>

<pimpbot> planet: Bruce: On the HTML5 “revolution” <11http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2011/on-the-html5-revolution/>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12853] New: <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <title>Sample page</title> </head> <body> <h1>Sample page</h1> <p>This is a <a href="demo.html">simple</a> sample.</p> <!-- this is a comment --> </body> </html> <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0047.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12854] New: I am quite surprised to see that things such as the list of allowed values for the "rel" attribute of the "link" tag (aka. the list of link types) as well as the list of allowed values for the "name" attribute of the "meta" tag are supposed to be listed o <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0048.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10671] consider removing support for PUT and DELETE as form methods <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0050.html> 4** [Bug 12856] New: Saying that "The dirty value flag <...> must be set to true whenever the user interacts with the control" is highly misleading. <http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-input-element-attributes.html#dom-input-value-value> says t <11http://lists.w3.

<rubys> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 02 June 2011

<MarkF> MarkF from ATT joined

<scribe> ScribeNick: adrianba

<scribe> Scribe: Adrian Bateman

<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-06-02 Action Items, New Calls from Paul Cotton on 2011-05-31 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)

<eliot> by tomorrow, Paul

<paulc> plh: see http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/new-information-status.html

<pimpbot> Title: New Information Status (at dev.w3.org)

ACTION items due by Thursday, June 2

ACTION-203?

<trackbot> ACTION-203 -- Steve Faulkner to develop a usable LC comment form -- due 2011-06-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/203

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-203: Develop a usable LC comment form - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

paulc: this relates to the acceptability of our bugzilla instance as installed at w3c
... don't see steve here - know mike smith has been working on this

<paulc> ACTION-203 is due in one week

MikeSmith: have been talking with steve and others about this - do intend to fix this with his help and others
... might take longer than the current last call - don't want to rush
... people should be reminded that they can use the public-html-comments list if they have problems with bugzilla - that's a supported way of submitting comments and someone will add them to bugzilla

paulc: i know you've been doing that since last call started - i noted there was a comment last night or yesterday that maybe the first one with more than one comment in the body - are you set-up to split those out?

MikeSmith: not at the moment

<paulc> Here is comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2011Jun/0000.html

<pimpbot> Title: Contributions to HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives from Reinaldo Ferraz on 2011-06-01 (public-html-comments@w3.org from June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)

paulc: just suggesting you need to be careful with this

MikeSmith: traffic on the comments list is low so not hard to handle these manually

paulc: thanks for stepping up to this

<paulc> Thanks for stepping up to do this translation from public-comments to Bugzilla

MikeSmith: i'll make sure any comments that get posted there make it into bugzilla

ACTION-203 due next week

<trackbot> ACTION-203 Develop a usable LC comment form due date now next week

New Issues This Week

paulc: None

<paulc> ACTION-193?

<trackbot> ACTION-193 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to and co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt -- due 2011-06-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/193

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-193: And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

ACTION-193

<plh> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/google-webvtt-charter.html

<pimpbot> Title: WebVTT Working Group (at www.w3.org)

plh: not that it's fully resolved but we made great progress - we received a proposed charter from Google
... we sent an advanced notice to members saying we are looking at creating a charter taking Google's proposal into account - we welcome comments - please send directly to me
... this will not be part of HTML WG, it will be a separate WG
... as far as i know we don't need to track in the HTML WG any longer
... but if people want, i can continue to give updates

paulc: given the large amount of invited experts, if you took an informal action to post the formation of the group should such an event occur

plh: sure - don't think it would happen before end of july
... working on charter and need to find chair, etc.
... will take 1 to 2 weeks to stabilise the charter and send for formal review

close ACTION-193

<trackbot> ACTION-193 And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt closed

Items Closed Last Week

paulc: None

Items Closing This Week

paulc: None

Items Closing Next Week

paulc: None

New Calls this week

ISSUE-134?

<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-134: Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

paulc: sent out e-mail notifications on Tuesday - due date is july 1

ISSUE-150?

<trackbot> ISSUE-150 -- consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/150

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-150: consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

paulc: these two are calls for counter proposals

ISSUE-163?

<trackbot> ISSUE-163 -- Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/163

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-163: Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

ISSUE-164?

<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

paulc: these are calls for change proposals where we don't currently have a proposal
... chairs would appreciate if the volunteers would send e-mail indicating that they are planning to write a change proposal
... not uncommon that people volunteer and then we discover they didn't send anything so we can send a reminder
... chairs are going to continue this rhythm of 2, 3 or 4 items each week until we empty the queue

<rubys> 2

rubys: 2 things left in the queue

New Surveys this week

paulc: None

Decisions this week

paulc: None

Other Business

paulc: does anyone have anything they want to raise?

Scribe for next meeting

paulc: sam chairing next week, we need a scribe - any volunteers?

plh: i can scribe next week

<paulc> merci beaucoup to plh

Adjournment

paulc: we're adjourned

Summary of Action Items

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