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HTML Weekly Teleconference

24 Mar 2011

Agenda

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mjs
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rubys

Contents

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12371] New: yes it is <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0748.html>

<pimpbot> planet: Stephen: The Design Evolution of Firefox 4 <11http://blog.stephenhorlander.com/2011/03/the-design-evolution-of-firefox-4/>

<MikeSmith> issue-152?

<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/152

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-152: Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12365] Add @fullsize to <img> <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0749.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12371] yes it is <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0750.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12367] Suggestion about multiple tracks for best practices section <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0751.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12347] Add textarea { resize: both; } <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0752.html>

<pimpbot> changes: sam: Decisions published on issues 126 and 140 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0085.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9178] add definition of "conforming document" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0754.html> 4** [Bug 10806] ignoring escapes is not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0753.html>

<rubys1> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 24 March 2011

<scribe> scribenick: rubys

<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-03-24: Issues, surveys, decisions from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-03-23 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from January to March 2011) (at lists.w3.org)

<mjs> hi all

ACTION items due by Thursday, March 24

mjs: there are none

New Issues This Week

mjs: also none

Items Closed Last Week

issue-120?

<trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-120: Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

mjs: straw poll closed March 17

issue-139?

<trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-139: HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

mjs: straw poll also closed March 17

issue-140?

<trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-140: clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

mjs: straw poll also closed March 17

issue-142?

<trackbot> ISSUE-142 -- No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/142

mjs: straw poll also closed March 17
... questions? comments?

issue-146?

<trackbot> ISSUE-146 -- <video> should allow muted as a content attribute -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/146

mjs: call for consensus based on a single proposal

issue-147?

<trackbot> ISSUE-147 -- playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent can't play back at the requested rate -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/147

mjs: likewise

issue-135?

<trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135

mjs: also a call for closure by amicable agreement
... questions? comments?

Items Closing This Week

mjs: the first closed earlier this week

issue-131?

<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131

mjs: we did receive an alternate/counter proposals, and so this is ready for a survey

issue-145?

<trackbot> ISSUE-145 -- use of "codecs" parameter -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/145

mjs: extension closed march 22

issue-152?

<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/152

mjs: this issue saw a lot of action, we have four proposals now

issue-155?

<trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- make <table border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"> conforming -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/155

mjs: again proposals were due march 22nd
... questions/comments?

janina: a brief explanation of 152... people were in sync at the F2F but then worked themselves in a corner with too many requirements on rendering.
... the sense is that we will get back to combining these in the next week or so to at most two options

mjs: thank you for that update

issue-148?

<trackbot> ISSUE-148 -- Algorithm for detecting the charset="" parameter -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/148

mjs: call for consensus closes today; original proposal withdrawn and we are down to one proposal

issue-27?

<trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27

mjs: we are likely to grant an extension for a week

<MikeSmith> about issue 152, see the minutes from the a11y TF call today: http://www.w3.org/2011/03/24-html-a11y-minutes.html#item01

julian: the extension requested is more than one week; and we expect new change proposals based on new information

mjs: if we grant such an extension, it would likely move the issue past the last call deadline

julian: agreed

issue-122?

<trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122

mjs: straw poll closes today

issue-161?

<trackbot> ISSUE-161 -- Create document defining mappings from html elements to platform accessibility apis -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/161

mjs: alternate or counter proposals are due today

issue-144?

<trackbot> ISSUE-144 -- <u> should be conforming -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/144

mjs: alternate or counter proposals are due tomorrow
... questions? comments?

Items Closing Next Week

mjs: there were none at the time of the agenda, we will get to some later in the agenda

New Calls this week

issue-145?

<trackbot> ISSUE-145 -- use of "codecs" parameter -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/145

we have a call for closure by amicable consensus

issue-131?

<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131

New Surveys this week

issue-131?

<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131

<scribe> new straw poll this week

issue-32?

<trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32

this poll closes on the 28th

Decisions this week

issue-56?

<trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56

mjs: decision was to revert change which removed these requirements from the spec

issue-88?

<trackbot> ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88

mjs: decision to make Content-Language non-conforming in meta tags

issue-96?

<trackbot> ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- closed

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96

mjs: decision was to not remove it

issue-124?

<trackbot> ISSUE-124 -- nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on <link> -- closed

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/124

mjs: decision was to not allow noreferred and nofollow on link elements

issue-127?

<trackbot> ISSUE-127 -- Simplify characterization of link types -- closed

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/127

mjs: the decision was to leave the table as is

issue-126?

<trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- closed

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126

mjs: the decision was to not have special handling for backslashes

issue-140?

<trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140

mjs: the decision was to adopt the change proposal which changes the definition of conforming HTML documents; ie. there is a distinction between documents that conform to the HTML5 spec and documents that require extensions
... that covers new decisions
... questions/comments?

SteveF: there have been a number of decisions, but there have not been updates to the document based on these decisions. When do we expect such updates?

mjs: we have asked editors about this as a part of the heartbeat request...
... hixie has been focused on counter proposals, and his next priority is applying decisions

SteveF: thanks!

Other Business

<mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0576.html

mjs: the call for consensus on heartbeat drafts is out
... I encourage everyone to look at that and comment. We decided to do this as we are running close to the limit on heartbeat requirements.
... questions? comments?
... any other other business?

SteveF: I requested a new FPwD

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0578.html

mjs: we will evaluate that request and get back to you soon?

Scribe for next meeting

mjs: any volunteers?
... I will scribe

Adjournment

Summary of Action Items

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