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<trackbot> Date: 08 March 2011
Yes, I will dial in in a few minutes ... on another call
<juansequeda> Marcelo and I are running a bit late. We will be on IRC and will dial in shortly
<scribe> scribenick: Ashok
<boris> hi
<boris> zackim, alexdeleon is with boris
<mhausenblas> +1
Michael: Reminder for non-US participants -- next 2 telcons will be one hour earlier due to Daylight Savings Time
RESOLUTION: minutes for March 1 accepted
Michael: We would like to publish
next revs of the WDs next week
... so let us discuss issues
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-27?
<trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- NULL graphColumn value producing triples in an unnamed graph -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/27
ISSUE-27 ... unnamed or default graph?
Souri ... yes, default graph
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-27 will be addressed by R2RML
Eric: Let us look closelt at SPARQL spec
<Seema> Ashok...for ISSUE-27, Souri means it to be "unnamed graph" not default graph
Issue-27 accepted
Thanks, Seema ... typing too fast :-)
<privera> Issue-24?
<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-24?
<trackbot> ISSUE-24 -- Clarify support for complex joinConditions -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/24
RESOLUTION: Accept ISSUE-27 and will be addressed by R2RML
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-24 will be addressed by R2RML
RESOLUTION: Accept ISSUE-24 and will be addressed by R2RML ... proposal accepted
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-22?
<trackbot> ISSUE-22 -- Support for database vendor specific SQL statements. -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/22
Souri: The statements are not parsed
Richard: What is a SQL
string?
... We agree that vendor extension should be supported
<dmcneil> +q
<ericP> we don't necessarily undermine the utility of R2RML if we only define the behavior over SQL 2008
Richard: maybe say nothing about this ... depends on the implementation ... impl says what it supports
<ericP> that won't prevent folks who understand how it would behave from applying this to other dialects
Richard: You want an indication on the SQL-string saying it is not std SQL
<Souri> rr:SQLCompatibililty rr:Core2008 ?
<Souri> +1 to Richard
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-22, put a note into R2RML draft
<Souri> +1
<cygri> +1
RESOLUTION: ISSUE-22 Accepted ... editors will add note in the document
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-21?
<trackbot> ISSUE-21 -- Allow logical tables to be joined via either an inner or an outer join -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/21
<Souri> +1 to withdrawal
David: I'm happy to withdraw this issue
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-25?
<trackbot> ISSUE-25 -- Including direct mapping constructs in R2RML mappings -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/25
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-25 and postpone
<cygri> +1
<Souri> +1
RESOLUTION: ISSUE-25 is opened
<Seema> +1
<mhausenblas> Michael: maybe related to ISSUE-5
<mhausenblas> Michael: R2RML editors please use ISSUE-25 to link to from the WD
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-26?
<trackbot> ISSUE-26 -- Producing triples in named graphs and the default graph -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/26
RESOLUTION: ISSUE-26 is opened
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-26, will be addressed in R2RML
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-28?
<trackbot> ISSUE-28 -- Clarify whether blank nodes are equivalent based on their identifier -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/28
Souri: Blank nodes are like local variables
<Souri> local to a graph, that is
Souri: I can clarify in the spec
<ivan> There are discussions on bnode scoping in the RDF WG right now... I think making this clear in the R2RML document would be good
Souri: we have a warning about blank nodes saying that blank nodes are local to a graph
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-28, not in R2RML but add TC
Richard: Can we gate a test cases for this
<cygri> +1
<ivan> +1
RESOLUTION: ISSUE-28 is opened. We need a test case.
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-29?
<trackbot> ISSUE-29 -- Require blank node and IRI identifier expressions to produce strings -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/29
Are URIs and blank node identifiers strings?
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-29, will be addressed in R2RML
Richard: We need to say
something
... can we say it is always cast to a string
<dmcneil> +q
Souri: String version of column value is used ... user can specify differently
Eric: We can use SQL spec
<mhausenblas> ACTION: Eric to provide text for ISSUE-29 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/03/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-105 - Provide text for ISSUE-29 [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2011-03-15].
RESOLUTION: Issue-29 is opened
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Different blank node identifier than was defined in mapping -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/30
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-30, write clarification in R2RML
<cygri> +1
RESOLUTION: Accept ISSUE-30, Editors to write clarification in R2RML
<Souri> not sure I understand, Richard could you write it please?
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-31?
<trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- Clarify reference to "blank node label" -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/31
David: Blank node label or identier
<cygri> good point
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept ISSUE-31, use 'blank node identifier" in R2RML
RESOLUTION: Accept ISSUE-31, use 'blank node identifier" in R2RML
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-5?
<trackbot> ISSUE-5 -- Default vs. direct mapping -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/5
<ericP> anyone have a copy of SQL 2009 ?
<Souri> +1 for closing it
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: close ISSUE-5
<ivan> +1
<Marcelo> +1
<privera> +!
<privera> +1
<juansequeda> +1 for closing
<MacTed> "default behavior is to use direct mapping..."
RESOLUTION: Close ISSUE-5 ... use the term Direct Mapping
<mhausenblas> close ISSUE-5
<trackbot> ISSUE-5 Default vs. direct mapping closed
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-7?
<trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Linked Data aspects for mapping RDB2RDF -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/7
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/LinkedDataAspects
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Entity_disambiguation
Soeren: Let us keep this open
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Postpone ISSUE-7 and make notes in R2RML
<ericP> dmcneil, can you point me at the place in r2rml where we need to capture the lexical values of SQL values (re: ACTION-105)?
<mhausenblas> ACTION: Auer to review R2RML draft and tell editors where notes should be made [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/03/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-106 - Review R2RML draft and tell editors where notes should be made [on Sören Auer - due 2011-03-15].
<dmcneil> ericP, 3.3.1.1 and 3.6.1.1
Discussion about linked data aspect of generated artifacts
<ericP> tx, dmcneil
<dmcneil> ericP, also 3.3.1.2, 3.6.1.2, 3.2.1.1 (it might make sense to have an umbrella statement that would cover all of these)
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-8?
<trackbot> ISSUE-8 -- Escaping “{” and “}” in templates -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/8
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-16?
<trackbot> ISSUE-16 -- Should we allow multiple subjects for a logical table row? Also, what if no subject is specified? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/16
<mhausenblas> ISSUE-17?
<trackbot> ISSUE-17 -- R2RML Mapping of a database schema to a given ontology -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/17
Souri: ISSUE-8 is implemented
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: close ISSUE-16
<ivan> +1
<cygri> +1
RESOLUTION: ISSUE-16 is closed
<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Postpone ISSUE-17
RESOLUTION: ISSUE-17 is postponed
<mhausenblas> ACTION-102?
<trackbot> ACTION-102 -- Ted Thibodeau to sum up the possibilities for generating reliable URIs for DM (to avoid bNodes) on the Wiki -- due 2011-03-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/102
<Souri> ISSUE-8 can be closed
<mhausenblas> close ISSUE-8
<trackbot> ISSUE-8 Escaping “{” and “}” in templates closed
Discussion on ACTION-102
<mhausenblas> [meeting adjourned]
ACTION-102 is ongoing we will discuss next week
<mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon
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