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<scribe> Scribe: Andi
UAIG is out of sync with the spec
David has concerns - understanding was that implementation could be more flexible
AS: if role="presentation" can receive focus, it's okay to expose it
CS: sounds like an authoring
error and should be in the authoring guide
... but can imagine a scenario where the click handler gets
bound late and the object is not in the tree
... agree that if it is focusable, role="presentation" should
be ignored
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11805
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#notify_state_changes
CS: thinks the language we have
is supposed to account for the <input type=checkbox checked
aria-checked=mixed>
... HTML 5 doesn't support "mixed" state for checkboxes
... at Boston meeting, thought we were going to submit a bug on
HTML 5, don't know if we ever did that
... agreement with HTML 5 WG is that we would allow HTML 5 to
forbid certain WAI-ARIA attributes
<scribe> ACTION: Andi to start e-mail thread with James and Michael to resolve [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
<davidb> DB: I echo James' concerns
DB: all I care about is that we
don't allow the action to happen
... issue 88 wants the actions to not be exposed if
aria-disabled="true"
... if checkbox has action but is disabled, should UA expose
the action?
CS: nothing would happen if you tried to perform the action but think the action is still exposed
DB: think they should be exposed as normal but performing the action should not work
<scribe> ACTION: Andi to send an e-mail to Sally about issue-88. Ask for clarification and let her know that our preference is to expose the action but just not allow it to happen [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
AS: is this not confusing to the user?
DB: user will know that it is disabled
CS: think this is consistent with how it works for native controls
bug to Cynthia to check that this is the behavior for native controls
<davidb> np
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