<CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * d62cebaa998c r5783 10/ (index complete.html source): [ac] (2) Disallow action='' and formaction='' since those get processed in an unexpected way.
<CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 65357d122b42 r5784 10/ (index complete.html source):
<CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (1) make .action and .formAction handle the empty string more like the content attribute gets processed, for sanity (even though that value is technically not valid anyway)
<CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11161
<pimpbot> 1111161: mounir.lamouri, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, 13form.action, button.formAction and input.formAction IDL attributes should return the document location when the content attribute is the empty string
<pimpbot> changes: hixie: make .action and .formAction handle the empty string more like the content attribute gets processed, for sanity (even though that value is technically not valid anyway) (whatwg r5785) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0082.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11745] Feature request: element.replaceSelection(str) for text fields <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0497.html> 4** [Bug 11745] New: Feature request: element.replaceSelection(str) should change the text field's value by replacing the current selection with the provided string, which should then be the new selection. This is apparently supported well in IE's proprietary equivalent, and <11http://lists.w3
<pimpbot> planet: sideshowbarker: @kylebarrow so UndoManager remains unimplemented for now & becomes a "next generation addition still in development", not core HTML5 feature <11http://twitter.com/sideshowbarker/statuses/25337216981016576> 4** sideshowbarker: @kylebarrow I think you asked by about UndoManager at one time; note that it's now been dropped from the W3C HTML5 draft http://goo.gl/aVy8s <11http://twitter.com/sideshowbarker/statuses/25336067041267712>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11746] New: Add video, object, img, input[type=image], embed, canvas { overflow: hidden; } since people don't expect these elements to overflow in combination with object-fit:cover (see https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52103 ) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0498.html>
<CIA-1> validator: 03Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 5967ff8930db r599 10syntax/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Check text content of script. b=706, r=hsivonen
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0500.html> 4** [Bug 10486] References to "image" ARIA role should be "img" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0499.html>
<CIA-1> validator: 03Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * a221bc155eba r600 10syntax/relaxng/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Check event-handler attributes. b=808, r=hsivonen
<CIA-1> validator: 03Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * 12b681f14a71 r691 10htmlparser/src/nu/validator/htmlparser/dom/Dom2Sax.java: Make Dom2Sax robust against null local names in the DOM.
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0501.html>
<CIA-1> validator: 03Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 3f9226defca8 r601 10syntax/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Check for multiple default track. b=809, r=hsivonen
<CIA-1> validator: 03Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * 7205dc3d1d0e r692 10htmlparser/pom.xml: Update the Maven .pom for version 1.3.
<CIA-1> validator: 03Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * cb9f6e229896 r693 10htmlparser/LICENSE.txt: Increment the copyright year in LICENSE.txt.
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10483] <figcaption> should be considered the caption of <figure> _itself_ <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0502.html>
<pimpbot> planet: hsivonen: Released new version of the Validator.nu HTML Parser for Java http://⌘.ws/parser and updated the JS version, too http://⌘.ws/ld #html5 <11http://twitter.com/hsivonen/statuses/25545375695769601> 4** Henri Sivonen: Version 1.3 of the Validator.nu HTML Parser Released <11http://blog.whatwg.org/vnu-parser-1_3> 4** stevefaulkner: there's politics then there's #HTML5 change proposal required to get a link in HTML5 to canvas 2d contex
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11161] form.action, button.formAction and input.formAction IDL attributes should return the document location when the content attribute is the empty string <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0503.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default" (5 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0509.html> 4** [Bug 11499] make clear whether value attribute on input[type='button'] element can be empty <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0504.html>
<pimpbot> planet: brucel: Goodness! Microsoft dislikes webM http://bit.ly/eeEQ3m! Who'd've thunk it? Let's check my handy infographic: http://flic.kr/p/99JonL #html5 <11http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/25559024950841344>
<MikeSmith> issue-122?
<trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122: alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<MikeSmith> issue-80?
<trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-80: document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11748] New: The "size" attribute is disallowed, but may be useful on input="file". IE, Firefox and Opera all implement it, allowing you to reliably change the size of the file path textbox (Webkit browsers don't use a textbox). Styling the file upload file using CSS, <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0510.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11592] Browsers use customizable dictionaries to correct spelling and tend to mark some names as wrong, that it shouldn't. Maybe each website can inform the browser of words/names it expects to be used and add it (in the scope of that page) to the exceptions. If <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0511.html>
<MikeSmith> issue-133?
<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element
<pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/summary element - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/summary element - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/summary element - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at www.w3.org)
trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 13 January 2011
<scribe> scribe: rubys
<mjs> who is the 315 number?
<pimpbot> planet: brucel: "Is the removal of H.264 from Chrome a step backward for openness?" - No, says @opvard http://bit.ly/eBKey6 #html5 <11http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/25591152803577857> 4** Anne van Kesteren: Why the Web needs WebM <11http://annevankesteren.nl/2011/01/why-webm>
<Julian> yes
1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 13
action-193?
<trackbot> ACTION-193 -- Paul Cotton to and co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt -- due 2010-12-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/193
mjs: this was deferred two weeks from last week
ACTION-193 due next week
<trackbot> ACTION-193 And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt due date now next week
ACTION-29?
<trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2011-01-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
mjs: plh?
... moving on...
ACTION-29 due next week
<trackbot> ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now next week
ACTION-190?
<trackbot> ACTION-190 -- Michael[tm] Smith to fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification -- due 2011-01-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/190
mjs: mike?
<MikeSmith> close action-190
<trackbot> ACTION-190 Fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification closed
mike: not complete yet
2. New Issues This Week:
mjs: none
3. Items Closed Last Week
mjs: none
4. Items Closing This Week
issue-119?
<trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119
mjs: alternate or counter proposals were due yesterday
issue-125?
<trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125
mjs: also due yesterday
issue-126?
<trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126
mjs: also due yesterday
... any questions or comments?
issue-134?
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
mjs: change proposals were due yesterday
issue-136?
<trackbot> ISSUE-136 -- would the <small> element be better handled in CSS? -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/136
mjs: also due yesterday
ISSUE-138?
<trackbot> ISSUE-138 -- "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/138
mjs: also due yesterday... we
have a discussion on the mailing list that may result in
amicable resolution
... any questions or comments?
5. Items Closing Next Week
issue-129?
<trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129
mjs: alternate or counter
proposals due Jan 17
... any questions or comments?
6 calls for proposals due next week...
ISSUE-141?
<trackbot> ISSUE-141 -- Allow definition lists to markup dialogue -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/141
mjs: suggests that the dl element be made conforming (as it was in HTML4)
ISSUE-143?
<trackbot> ISSUE-143 -- Remove the newly added "s" element -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/143
mjs: suggests removing the s element (it was recently added back)
ISSUE-120?
<trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120
mjs: suggests getting rid of prefixes
ISSUE-135?
<trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135
mjs: due on the 19th
ISSUE-139
ISSUE-139?
<trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139
mjs: this one concerns where the ack is placed
ISSUE-140?
<trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140
mjs: defines how a conforming
document is defined
... any questions or comments?
ISSUE-150?
<trackbot> ISSUE-150 -- consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/150
ISSUE-127?
<trackbot> ISSUE-127 -- Simplify characterization of link types -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/127
ISSUE-130?
<trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- allow tables to be used for layout purposes -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/130
mjs: issue-130 is mislabeled in
the agenda
... there are very few tracker issues left, we are closing in
on the deadline
... for bugs in the pre-LC component, now is the time to check
and now is the time to do it. The final cut-off will be the
22nd. Any issues raised on these bugs after that date will be
treated as a last call comment.
mjs: we had a call for consensus
late last year, and this draft should have initial resolution
of all bugs
... that publication will occur on the 13th
... any questions or comments?
mjs: any other business?
<MikeSmith> Othmane Benyoucef
Othmane: emails are
unorganized
... was wondering if his proposals would be accepted at this
time
mjs: suggests bringing this up on
the mailing list
... as for technical proposals, no need to ask permission,
simply post the proposals to the mailing lists
<MikeSmith> ack +1
mjs: does this address the question?
http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html
mike: please add summary_element change proposal to the issue-status page
mjs: please post these requests to the list
mike: ok
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element needs to be added to http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-032 and to
mike: I have a draft of the spec that I would like the co-chairs to look at
mjs: looks like a working draft... I guess I don't have any specific comments
sam: neither do I
mike: I am still working on the
other drafts
... it could be Friday before everything is published
mjs: ok
... any other other business?
mjs: any volunteers?
adrian: volunteers
mjs: thanks adrian
<Julian> bye
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