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14:22:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 38 minutes
14:22:48 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
14:22:48 <trackbot> Date: 15 December 2010
14:23:21 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0029.html
14:23:29 <dom> Chair: Frederick, Robin
14:24:10 <dom> Regrets: Thomas_Roessler, Claes_Nilsson, Marengo_Marco, Christopher_Hunt, John_Morris, Suresh_Chitturi
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14:47:32 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:47:32 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
14:47:33 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
14:47:33 <trackbot> Date: 15 December 2010
14:49:11 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0029.html
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14:51:30 <Zakim> +??P4
14:51:44 <fjh> zakim, ??P4 is me
14:51:44 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
14:54:21 <fjh> Regrets+ Claes_Nilsson, Thomas_Roessler, Marco_Marengo, Christopher_Hunt, John_Morris
14:55:25 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
14:55:34 <fjh> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
14:59:14 <Zakim> +Vincent_Mahe
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15:00:43 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:00:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, Vincent_Mahe
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15:01:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see maoteo, cmarc, fjh, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, richt, wmaslowski, ilkka, shepazu, lgombos, trackbot, dom
15:01:10 <fjh> Present+ Cecile_Marc
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15:01:28 <richt> Present+ Rich_Tibbett
15:01:35 <cmarc> Present+ Cecile_Marc
15:01:39 <Zakim> +??P17
15:01:46 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
15:01:49 <Zakim> + +358.504.86aaaa
15:01:57 <AnssiK> zakim, aaaa is me
15:01:59 <Zakim> + +44.757.091.aabb
15:02:07 <cmarc> 0299 12 is Cecile_Marc
15:02:07 <richt> Zakim, +??P17 is me
15:02:13 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.15.aacc
15:02:23 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
15:02:31 <Zakim> sorry, richt, I do not recognize a party named '+??P17'
15:02:33 <Zakim> + +1.781.534.aadd
15:02:33 <darobin> Zakim, Vincent_Mahe is cmarc 
15:02:35 <lgombos> Present+ laszlo_Gombos
15:02:37 <Zakim> +cmarc; got it
15:02:41 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:02:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, ??P17, AnssiK, +44.757.091.aabb, +46.1.07.15.aacc, +1.781.534.aadd
15:02:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see AnssiK, nwidell, maoteo, cmarc, fjh, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, richt, wmaslowski, ilkka, shepazu, lgombos, trackbot, dom
15:02:58 <Zakim> + +49.133.7.aaee
15:03:00 <nwidell> Zakim, aacc is me
15:03:15 <fjh> zakim, ??P17 is richt 
15:03:16 <Zakim> +nwidell; got it
15:03:17 <nwidell> Present+ Niklas_Widell
15:03:29 <maoteo> Present+ Maria_Oteo
15:03:30 <Zakim> +richt; got it
15:04:06 <darobin> Zakim, richt is me
15:04:16 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
15:04:19 <richt> Zakim, aabb is me
15:04:21 <fjh> zakim, aadd is lgombos
15:04:22 <Zakim> +richt; got it
15:04:23 <darobin> Zakim, aadd is lgombos 
15:04:25 <Zakim> +lgombos; got it
15:04:26 <Zakim> sorry, darobin, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
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15:04:50 <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
15:04:54 <Zakim> +Dom
15:04:56 <dom> Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
15:05:42 <nwidell> scribeNick: nwidell
15:06:08 <nwidell> TOPIC: Announcements
15:06:10 <fjh> new WD of the Contacts API spec published -  http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-contacts-api-20101209/
15:06:18 <fjh> no meeting 22, 29 December. Next meeting 5 January, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2010Dec/0000.html 
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15:06:32 <maoteo> Zakim, aaee is maoteo
15:06:32 <Zakim> +maoteo; got it
15:06:37 <jgiraud> Present+ Jerome_Giraud
15:06:43 <nwidell> TOPIC: Minutes approval
15:06:48 <fjh> Approve 8 December minutes  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/att-0028/minutes-2010-12-08.html
15:07:01 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 8 December 2010 approved
15:07:47 <nwidell> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 8 December 2010 approved
15:07:54 <fjh> Topic: Permiassions
15:07:58 <fjh> Permission for pop-up windows, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0021.html
15:08:15 <fjh> robin, ties into permissions and trusted contacts
15:08:53 <dom> s/contacts/events/
15:09:17 <dom> ACTION: Dom to look into pop-up windows in Permissions draft
15:09:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-315 - Look into pop-up windows in Permissions draft [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-12-22].
15:09:30 <fjh> Next step for Feature Permissions, http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebNotifications/publish/FeaturePermissions.html
15:10:04 <cathy> cathy has joined #dap
15:10:07 <fjh> laszlo has signed up to edit this document
15:10:20 <cathy> Present+ Cathy_Chan;
15:10:21 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Nov/att-0047/minutes-2010-11-04.html#item05 Permissions discussion during F2F
15:10:50 <nwidell> fjh, first steo is to put text into CVS, add Laszlo as editor
15:11:03 <AnssiK> [ re popup windows topic, IE has a proprietary showModalDialog() allowing some customization, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms536759%28v=vs.85%29.aspx ]
15:11:06 <dom> s/fjh,/fjh:/
15:11:08 <nwidell> TOPIC: Contacts
15:11:31 <nwidell> robin, There has been a new draft, some discussions about time zones
15:11:40 <dom> s/robin,/robin:/
15:11:42 <Zakim> + +1.781.266.aaff
15:11:52 <cathy> zakim, aaff is cathy
15:11:52 <Zakim> +cathy; got it
15:12:05 <nwidell>  ... a few additional ideas but nothing that changes things in major ways
15:12:20 <nwidell> ... Chris Hunt offered help 
15:12:26 <fjh> Christopher volunteered to help with contacts
15:12:49 <nwidell>  ... wrt TimeZoneDate
15:13:28 <fjh> s/Christopher volunteered to help with contacts//
15:14:26 <fjh> s/proposed RESOLUTION/RESOLUTION/
15:14:30 <richt> Christopher was highlighting a point wrt the timezone attribute within the Contact interface.
15:14:32 <nwidell> fjh: what should we ask Christopher for help with?
15:14:47 <richt> This needs to be updated to a timezone identifier, not a fixed time like +05:30.
15:14:56 <richt> Not sure what level of contribution he wants to make.
15:15:01 <nwidell> richt, thanks
15:15:34 <dom> [there is overlap with TZDate, since both need to refer to timezone identifiers
15:15:45 <nwidell> richt: I will reply on the list
15:15:55 <nwidell> robin: Contact Blob Writer
15:16:05 <fjh> Blobwriter, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0017.html 
15:16:38 <Zakim> -nwidell
15:16:46 <nwidell> richt: we might not need a contacts saving API after all if the File API comes along
15:16:52 <fjh> s/edit this document/edit this document, suggest laszlo arrange now for CVS access and update editor list as first step/
15:17:11 <nwidell> oops phone just dropped the call
15:17:40 <dom> an Appendix in Contacts API with a detailed example would be great
15:17:43 <Zakim> +nwidell
15:18:02 <fjh> richt notes we might not need contact writer at all
15:18:10 <fjh> or contacts blobwriter
15:18:19 <dom> +1 too
15:18:49 <dom> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Drop Contacts Writer in favor of update-via-download mechanism documented in Contacts API appendix
15:19:33 <dom> (this relates to ISSUE-97)
15:19:38 <dom> ISSUE-97?
15:19:41 <trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Write-access difficulties (in contacts and other APIs), see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jul/0112.html -- raised
15:19:43 <nwidell> richt: Put example in Contacts API wrt writing
15:19:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/97
15:20:13 <nwidell> robin: this may be used in other specs as well
15:20:43 <richt> cool :)
15:21:10 <darobin> RESOLUTION: Drop Contacts Writer in favor of update-via-download mechanism documented in Contacts API appendix
15:21:15 <dom> close ISSUE-97
15:21:15 <trackbot> ISSUE-97 Write-access difficulties (in contacts and other APIs), see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jul/0112.html closed
15:21:21 <darobin> Topic: Media Capture - HTML5 role attribute
15:21:24 <nwidell> Random problem with cut and paste, sigh
15:21:36 <dom> ISSUE-97: also resolved to drop Contacts Writer in favor of update-via-download mechanism documented in Contacts API appendix
15:21:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-97 Write-access difficulties (in contacts and other APIs), see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jul/0112.html notes added
15:21:43 <darobin> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0016.html Media Capture
15:21:52 <dom> ACTION: Rich to describe contacts write in Appendix of Contacts API
15:21:52 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Rich
15:21:56 <dom> ACTION: Richard to describe contacts write in Appendix of Contacts API
15:21:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-316 - Describe contacts write in Appendix of Contacts API [on Richard Tibbett - due 2010-12-22].
15:22:38 <nwidell> robin: might be problematic with fake media type in the future
15:23:03 <nwidell> ... suggestion to use an attribute as a cleaner way to solve problem
15:23:21 <nwidell> ... maybe we can use the "role" attribute
15:23:21 <dom> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-role/
15:23:29 <darobin> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/
15:23:40 <fjh> As the role attribute already exists, we avoid issue of needing to add an attribute 
15:24:56 <fjh> seems good idea not to have to make changes to HTML5 and to use existing attribute
15:24:58 <dom> [I don't think the role attribute is actually part of HTML5 yet]
15:25:17 <nwidell> ilkka: can the two solutions co-exist?
15:25:29 <richt> q+
15:25:29 <AnssiK> s/ilkka/lgombos/
15:25:35 <nwidell> robin: will need to be discussed with android people
15:25:55 <fjh> suggestion is that we could make this proposal and if needed android could migrate to it
15:26:10 <darobin> ack richt 
15:27:01 <nwidell> richt: Is it ok to mix URIs and non-URIs in this, ref to RDF
15:27:16 <dom> [I'm unclear whether using role for this is a proper use for this attribute; I think we ought to ask WAI PF for their input]
15:27:59 <nwidell> richt: we should be supportive of android way
15:28:02 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to ping Andrei about using @role instead of mime parameters
15:28:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-317 - Ping Andrei about using @role instead of mime parameters [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-12-22].
15:28:15 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to ping WAI about using @role for capture
15:28:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-318 - Ping WAI about using @role for capture [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-12-22].
15:28:37 <nwidell> robin: we need to coordinate more ...
15:28:37 <richt> we should reflect current implementation where possible, which is Android in this case.
15:29:04 <nwidell> robin: there are many stakeholders, will see what external input brings
15:29:15 <darobin> Topic: Gallery Use Cases
15:29:29 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0015.html (Rich)  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0018.html (Francois)
15:29:49 <nwidell> robin: Francois sent use cases based on discussion at F2F. 
15:30:15 <AnssiK> q+
15:30:43 <nwidell> richt: the focus is around file system and device element, 
15:31:13 <darobin> ack AnssiK 
15:31:15 <fjh> richt notes file system mounting of device could be a partial solution
15:31:17 <nwidell> ... Francois Use cases were about indexing stuff, however a lot of the preview stuff is already in file pickers
15:31:39 <richt> <device type="fs"/>...which is not really specified at the moment.
15:31:52 <darobin> ACTION-314?
15:31:52 <trackbot> ACTION-314 -- Anssi Kostiainen to react on media gallery use cases -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
15:31:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/314
15:32:03 <darobin> +1
15:32:04 <dom> +1 on trying to write code to see how it would actually work
15:32:06 <nwidell> anssik : One should write some code towards the API to try out what works, what is lacking etc
15:32:48 <richt> code says 1000 words :)
15:33:01 <nwidell> ... will ensure that we create beautiful APIs.
15:33:05 <fjh> ACTION-314: suggestion to write code to see how it might work
15:33:05 <trackbot> ACTION-314 React on media gallery use cases notes added
15:34:47 <dom> richt, you meant code says 1010 words (or maybe 1024 words?) :)
15:35:22 <darobin> -> http://onilabs.com/stratifiedjs one way of making many callbacks more manageable
15:35:23 <nwidell> anssik: tried writing some code towards FIle API, many callbacks, slightly cumbersome to use
15:35:32 <richt> dom, I was rounding down ;)
15:35:36 <darobin> q?
15:35:45 <darobin> Topic: Messaging API
15:35:51 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0027.html
15:36:03 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:36:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, darobin, AnssiK, richt, lgombos, maoteo, Dom, cathy, nwidell
15:36:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see cathy, jgiraud, AnssiK, nwidell, maoteo, cmarc, fjh, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, richt, wmaslowski, ilkka, shepazu, lgombos, trackbot, dom
15:36:22 <nwidell> robin: has been discussed on the list, are we ready to push this out?
15:36:45 <dom> [if we want to publish before moratorium, publication request needs to come in before 12pm ET]
15:37:15 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Dec/0027.html Maria's latest message (!) on Message API
15:37:23 <fjh> [might make more sense to publish in January, so it gets visibility etc]
15:37:40 <darobin> +1 to January
15:38:11 <AnssiK> s/towards/against/
15:38:28 <nwidell> maria: will finish of the API next week
15:38:30 <fjh> another reason is not to rush, to avoid errors in the editing or process
15:38:49 <AnssiK> s/File API/File API (Directories and System)/
15:39:03 <nwidell> dom: the name question, shouldn't make api less powerful than what is available in existing schemes
15:39:15 <darobin> +1 to the API being a superset of URI schemes
15:40:16 <nwidell> maria: that's ok
15:40:50 <fjh> Topic: Actions and Issues
15:40:53 <darobin> ACTION-86?
15:40:53 <trackbot> ACTION-86 -- Robin Berjon to update Core Devices -- due 2010-01-27 -- OPEN
15:40:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/86
15:41:37 <nwidell> robin: should we publish, a very thin spec?
15:42:02 <darobin> ACTION-86: describe event looping there
15:42:02 <trackbot> ACTION-86 Update Core Devices notes added
15:42:04 <Zakim> -Dom
15:42:15 <nwidell> richt: yes, but need some work wrt event loop, also navigator.service etc
15:42:52 <darobin> ACTION-104?
15:42:52 <trackbot> ACTION-104 -- David Rogers to add use case related to Domain spoofing and trust in the network layer (ISSUE-37) -- due 2010-03-17 -- OPEN
15:42:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/104
15:43:15 <darobin> ACTION-130?
15:43:15 <trackbot> ACTION-130 -- Richard Tibbett to propose changes to calendar specification to address privacy minimization -- due 2010-10-22 -- OPEN
15:43:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/130
15:44:19 <nwidell> richt: will not have time to work with it
15:45:17 <fjh> richt notes main issue in calendar is TimeZoneDate
15:46:03 <nwidell> robin: calendar should reuse much of contacts
15:46:19 <fjh> richt, same approach for calendar as contacts toward minimization, but work still required to do this
15:46:38 <richt> calendar can reflect contacts exactly. the only difference will be the Calendar object (in place of the Contact object).
15:46:45 <darobin> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Calendar should be as much as possible modelled on Contacts, same privacy and security, only fields changing
15:46:54 <darobin> s/only/mostly/
15:46:54 <richt> +1
15:46:54 <fjh> action: fjh to send proposed list of actions to close related to policy
15:46:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-319 - Send proposed list of actions to close related to policy [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-12-22].
15:47:07 <darobin> RESOLUTION: Calendar should be as much as possible modelled on Contacts, same privacy and security, mostly fields changing
15:48:03 <darobin> close ACTION-130
15:48:03 <trackbot> ACTION-130 Propose changes to calendar specification to address privacy minimization closed
15:48:18 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:48:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, darobin, AnssiK, richt, lgombos, maoteo, cathy, nwidell
15:48:19 <darobin> ACTION: Richt to make Calendar like Contacts in every possible way
15:48:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-320 - Make Calendar like Contacts in every possible way [on Richard Tibbett - due 2010-12-22].
15:48:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see cathy, AnssiK, nwidell, maoteo, cmarc, fjh, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, richt, wmaslowski, ilkka, shepazu, lgombos, trackbot, dom
15:48:25 <darobin> ACTION-145?
15:48:25 <trackbot> ACTION-145 -- Bryan Sullivan to provide an architectural flow for Policy Reqs -- due 2010-03-25 -- OPEN
15:48:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/145
15:49:12 <darobin> ACTION-150?
15:49:13 <trackbot> ACTION-150 -- David Rogers to send BONDI experience with testing for device APIs -- due 2010-03-25 -- OPEN
15:49:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/150
15:49:25 <darobin> close ACTION-150
15:49:25 <trackbot> ACTION-150 Send BONDI experience with testing for device APIs closed
15:49:34 <darobin> ACTION-181?
15:49:34 <trackbot> ACTION-181 -- Bryan Sullivan to to review API and Ontology for Media Resource API -- due 2010-07-07 -- OPEN
15:49:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/181
15:49:48 <darobin> close ACTION-181
15:49:48 <trackbot> ACTION-181 to review API and Ontology for Media Resource API closed
15:50:18 <darobin> close ACTION-210
15:50:18 <trackbot> ACTION-210 Summarize and add issues to ruleset doc closed
15:50:32 <richt> ACTION-213?
15:50:32 <trackbot> ACTION-213 -- Dong-Young Lee to review sysinfo draft after edits made -- due 2010-07-21 -- OPEN
15:50:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/213
15:50:35 <darobin> close ACTION-213
15:50:35 <trackbot> ACTION-213 Review sysinfo draft after edits made closed
15:50:42 <richt> ACTION-214?
15:50:42 <trackbot> ACTION-214 -- Thomas Roessler to request IETF community review of sysinfo API Last Call WD through W3C/IETF liaison channel -- due 2010-01-31 -- OPEN
15:50:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/214
15:51:04 <richt> ACTION-229?
15:51:04 <trackbot> ACTION-229 -- Richard Tibbett to go through http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5546 and ensure the bindings provided map -- due 2010-10-22 -- OPEN
15:51:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/229
15:51:30 <richt> ACTION-230?
15:51:30 <trackbot> ACTION-230 -- Wojciech Maslowski to specify "add to calendar" based on ICS-objects opening -- due 2010-08-05 -- OPEN
15:51:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/230
15:52:05 <fjh> wmaslowski, do you know the status of this action, ACTION-230 Specify "add to calendar" based on ICS-objects opening	Wojciech Maslowski
15:52:19 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:52:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, darobin, AnssiK, richt, lgombos, maoteo, cathy, nwidell
15:52:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see cathy, AnssiK, nwidell, maoteo, cmarc, fjh, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, richt, wmaslowski, ilkka, shepazu, lgombos, trackbot, dom
15:52:58 <darobin> ACTION-251?
15:52:58 <trackbot> ACTION-251 -- John Morris to review privacy text related to ISSUE-78 for capture -- due 2010-10-20 -- OPEN
15:52:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/251
15:53:13 <darobin> ISSUE-72?
15:53:13 <trackbot> ISSUE-72 -- Usage of URIs for sms, tel:, etc in PIM APIs -- raised
15:53:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/72
15:53:16 <darobin> close ISSUE-72
15:53:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-72 Usage of URIs for sms, tel:, etc in PIM APIs closed
15:53:36 <fjh> ISSUE-72: clarifying whether a JS API even makes sense when URI schemes have been defined as an alternative mechanism for at least some of the technology. Have determined JS APIs make sense in some cases.
15:53:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-72 Usage of URIs for sms, tel:, etc in PIM APIs notes added
15:53:50 <richt> q+ for AOB
15:53:56 <darobin> ack richt 
15:53:56 <Zakim> richt, you wanted to discuss AOB
15:54:08 <fjh> Topic: Other business
15:54:23 <nwidell> richt: thoughts on bringing device into DAP
15:55:12 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:55:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/12/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:55:24 <nwidell> robin: there are many interested parties, IETF is working on rtc-web, but not entirely sure about how to get the right people in the same room
15:56:07 <fjh> s/Permiassions/Permissions/
15:56:08 <nwidell> ... should it be a WG of its own, part of dap, html, etc, ?
15:56:24 <fjh> s/ fhirsch3trackbot-ng, start telecon//
15:56:32 <nwidell>  ... comments about working groups should go right to Dom
15:56:36 <fjh> s/fhirsch3trackbot-ng, start telecon//
15:56:48 <fjh> s/0299 12 is Cecile_Marc//
15:57:11 <fjh> s/steo/step/
15:57:24 <nwidell> richt: would be useful to have <device> in DAP
15:57:32 <fjh> s/oops phone just dropped the call//
15:58:13 <Zakim> -richt
15:58:14 <Zakim> -cathy
15:58:16 <Zakim> -cmarc
15:58:16 <Zakim> -darobin
15:58:18 <Zakim> -fjh
15:58:20 <Zakim> -maoteo
15:58:21 <Zakim> -lgombos
15:58:23 <Zakim> -nwidell
15:58:26 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:58:27 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
15:58:28 <Zakim> Attendees were fjh, +358.504.86aaaa, +44.757.091.aabb, +46.1.07.15.aacc, AnssiK, +1.781.534.aadd, cmarc, +49.133.7.aaee, nwidell, darobin, richt, lgombos, Dom, maoteo,
15:58:31 <Zakim> ... +1.781.266.aaff, cathy
15:58:36 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:58:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/12/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
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