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<janina> agenda: this
<janina> scribe: John
<janina> scribe: John_Foliot
<JF> scribe: JF
<janina> scribe: jf
seems we have no more open action items effective today
although this might be due to problems with the W3C systems
systems tech guys have been dealing with larger system wide issues
Silvia: this might not be affecting us, thinks we are actually in good shape
Janina: reminder about W3C fishing attemps of late
Judy: have checked the most recent TR draft, and that none of the language we were concerned about is included
we will be using bugzilla to get the text cleaned up
to remove references to WebSRT from the Editor's Draft
Silvia: happy with the framework, but we need to remove references to WebSRT
Judy: think it would be good to move quickly to get bugs filed
propose language thta would replace existing text with neutral language
did we resolve who would be filing actual bugs last week? (seems no)
Judy will then seek to have those bugs acted upon quickly
Silvia: Eric was going to try and approach hixie about removing the text himself and make it more neutral
Not sure if hixie would be open to that
Sean: prepared to work on this, but unsure on how to proceed
Judy: would be good if we could offer proposed text
Silvia: I would go through the draft, find mentions of WebSRT, and see if it can be reformulated/rewritten with more neutral language
submit those proposals to the mailing list, and then submit as proposed changes
Issue with no existing W3c Editor's Draft
Sean: I can work on this perhaps next Monday
Judy looking to see if we can access a W3C Editor Draft
Janina: agree that we should work this via the list
mindful that some will be at TPAC, but likely most will not.
Judy: won't be available next week
<judy_> (...at least at the regular time)
Janina: there might be some
'unconference' meeting @ TPAC
... probably will be able to avail teleconference
connectivity
watch IRC and lists Thrusday and Friday
Silvia: if the times can be posted, we could join in then
Janina: so we won't have a call next week, but rather try and work around TPAC scheduling
meanwhile Sean can start on proposed edits and we can discuss via email list
Janina: this is kind of a meta-topic
Janina: have the mappings against WCAG complete?
JF - believes both WCAG and UAAG mappings are complete
Janina: finished with her pass - essentially comfortable that we have it right
JF: did janina make any changes?
Janina: silvia made them for Janina
Silvia: most of them, but not everything
there is a bit of issue on a few points, and we can keep the list fairly dynamic and flexible
however generally quite happy with the technical mappings
only technologies that have cue format need to be checked when evaluating time-text formats
Silvia now considering whether to make a separate document for WebSRT or adding a new column on the existing TTML evaluation page
Silvia: if WG decides that this is an "official" W3C requirements what happens to it after that
Frank: do we have a plan for prioritization of requirements?
Janina: this matrix was supposed to be able to help us get towards this type of clarrity
Frank: concerned that some of
these things will take a longer time to figure out
... one of MS goals is to allow 3rd parties to extend the
browser by installing additions
... would love to see a list of core rquirements
Silvia: 2 things that need to be done (for multi-track issue)
how do we associate secondary files to the main file's timeline
(needs HTML markup)
we also need to define a JavaScript API to handle this scenario as well
however it should be fairly simple, as it will be based on the existing JS API we have
it just needs to define what type of language formats, and how to turn on and off
Judy: concerned about assuming that some things can't get into HTML5
this becomes a tricky discussion.
Silvia: once multi-track sync is figured out, the next big challenge will likely be navigation by hierarchy
suspect that this will take a number of years to achieve
Judy: there is a commitment from the W3c to ensure that accessibility is included in the HTML5 and done right
Silvia: just want to be realistic that between 0% and 100% there is multiple points
Janina: wants to point out that the hierarchical navigation is critical, and will need to be addressed
<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0520.html
Silvia: would like to see us start engaging on the multi-track piece that she started the discussion on last week.
<silvia> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Sub-Group#Bugs
JF to also go through bugzilla and ensure that all bugs are being watch by us that affect us
Janina: recap - Sean and Silvia (and perhaps Eric) to file bugs to tweak language in Editors draft
<scribe> ACTION: Sean and Silvia (and perhaps Eric) to file bugs to tweak language in Editors draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-67 - And Silvia (and perhaps Eric) to file bugs to tweak language in Editors draft [on Sean Hayes - due 2010-11-03].
<scribe> ACTION: John to ensure all relevant bugs are added to the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-68 - Ensure all relevant bugs are added to the wiki [on John Foliot - due 2010-11-03].
<scribe> ACTION: Silvia to work up checklist table for WebSRT [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-69 - Work up checklist table for WebSRT [on Silvia Pfeiffer - due 2010-11-03].
Janina: thanks everyone. we are making very good progress
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