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15:00:23 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-html-a11y-irc
15:00:25 RRSAgent, make logs world
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15:00:27 Zakim, this will be 2119
15:00:27 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:00:28 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:00:28 Date: 14 October 2010
15:00:51 zakim, this is 2119
15:00:51 ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM
15:00:56 +Gregory_Rosmaita
15:00:59 zakim, who's on the phone?
15:00:59 On the phone I see ??P3, Janina_Sajka, Gregory_Rosmaita
15:01:37 zakim, ??P3 is Everet_Zufelt
15:01:37 +Everet_Zufelt; got it
15:01:45 +??P0
15:02:18 zakim, ??P0 is me
15:02:18 +MichaelC; got it
15:02:40 + +1.408.823.aaaa
15:02:52 zakim, aaaa is Eric_Carlson
15:02:52 +Eric_Carlson; got it
15:07:06 zakim, who's on the phone?
15:07:06 On the phone I see Everet_Zufelt, Janina_Sajka, Gregory_Rosmaita, MichaelC, Eric_Carlson
15:09:31 +[Microsoft]
15:09:56 zakim ,choose a victim
15:10:06 zakim, choose a victim
15:10:06 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose MichaelC
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15:12:43 Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon
15:12:43 Chair: Mike
15:12:43 agenda: this
15:12:43 agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:12:43 agenda+ Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
15:12:44 agenda+ Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; Media; Canvas; ARIA Mappings
15:12:46 agenda+ next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe
15:12:48 agenda+ be done
15:12:53 + +44.207.391.aabb
15:12:59 agenda+ Current HTML Surveys
15:13:27 zakim, aabb is Marco_Ranon
15:13:27 +Marco_Ranon; got it
15:13:53 zakim, agendum 1
15:13:53 I don't understand 'agendum 1', oedipus
15:13:58 zakim, who's noisy?
15:14:01 zakim, take up agendum 1
15:14:01 agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:14:08 MichaelC, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MichaelC (19%), Everet_Zufelt (19%), Gregory_Rosmaita (5%), Marco_Ranon (4%)
15:14:11 zakim, close agendum 1
15:14:11 agendum 1, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
15:14:13 I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:14:14 2. Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open [from janina]
15:14:18 ezufelt has joined #html-a11y
15:14:28 GJR now muted
15:14:36 scribenick: ezufelt
15:14:46 scribe: Everett_Zufelt
15:14:53 zakim, who's noisy?
15:15:03 MichaelC, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Marco_Ranon (54%)
15:15:49 Chair: Janina_Sajka
15:15:57 action-66?
15:15:57 ACTION-66 -- Michael Cooper to prepare description of problem and basic proposed solution for bug 8885 - run first past bug triage team and then take to TF for consideration [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action05] -- due 2010-10-12 -- OPEN
15:15:57 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/66
15:16:33 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8885
15:17:30 zakim take up agendum 3
15:17:43 zakim, take up agendum 5
15:17:43 agendum 5. "be done" taken up [from janina]
15:17:54 TOPIC: HTML WG Surveys
15:17:56 HTML5 Survey 1 - ISSUE-74: canvas-accessibility and ISSUE-105 canvas-usemap - Straw Poll for Objections http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/
15:17:59 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
15:18:03 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
15:18:07 HTML5 Survey 2: ISSUE-32: how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? - Straw Poll for Objections http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-32-objection-poll/
15:18:14 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Summary_Change_Proposal_Nov_18%2C_2009
15:18:18 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/SummaryAttribute20100222
15:18:23 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0052.html
15:21:06 \aGR: Summary as an element that is not displayed by defaut, but can take structured text and language markup.
15:21:51 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element
15:22:02 which was also filed as HTML Bug 10784 - change summary from an attribute to an element (http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10784)
15:23:40 TOPIC: Sub-Team Reports
15:24:20 EZ: working with gez - filed bug about droppable attribute -- added tracker request - to do is open an issue for it - hixie wanted more specific info about where lang of spec should be changed so not referencing only mouse actions
15:24:30 EZ: glad to have help on this
15:24:38 EZ: only 2 bugs that needed to be filed
15:24:45 JS: correct - seem to be on top of that
15:24:52 JS: time left for change proposals
15:25:18 zakim, who's here?
15:25:18 On the phone I see Everet_Zufelt, Janina_Sajka, Gregory_Rosmaita, MichaelC, Eric_Carlson, [Microsoft], Marco_Ranon (muted)
15:25:20 On IRC I see ezufelt, Marco_Ranon, Zakim, RRSAgent, oedipus, MichaelC, davidb, MikeSmith, janina, sideshow, trackbot
15:25:46 zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
15:25:46 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
15:26:42 CS: Steve filed issue related to bug which holds sub bugs related ARIA mappings.
15:28:04 CS: Canvas survey missing question about focus rectangle and caret.
15:28:05 Zakim, call Mike-goog
15:28:05 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
15:28:07 +Mike
15:28:23 i/TOPIC: Sub-Team Reports/scribenick: oedipus/
15:28:29 GS: We intended to defer this question.
15:28:47 i/CS: Steve filed issue/scribenick: ezufelt/
15:28:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
15:29:33 CS: It seems we have the counter proposal and not the original proposal.
15:29:38 regrets: Laura_Carlson,Kenny_Johar,Joshue_O'Connor,Sylvia_Pfeiffer
15:30:05 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0480.html
15:30:09 RRSAgent, make minutes
15:30:09 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith
15:31:20 MC: Triage team going through bugs marked needs info or won't fix.
15:31:41 MC: Identifying bugs that need to be taken to task force.
15:32:15 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Access/HTML5_Accesskey_Bugs
15:32:32 MC: Getting ready to bring some bugs up to the task force.
15:32:53 -> http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-a11y-bugs-minutes.html Bug Triage sub-group 2010-12 minutes
15:33:22 MC: Assigning some bugs to facilitators of sub groups to make sure they are properly addressed.
15:33:25 i agree
15:33:48 nothing to add
15:33:56 q?
15:34:57 HTML5 Survey 1 - ISSUE-74: canvas-accessibility and ISSUE-105 canvas-usemap - Straw Poll for Objections http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/
15:35:01 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
15:35:05 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
15:36:09 CS: Will start a private mail thread to figure out decision on survey question related to canvas focus / rectangle.
15:37:04 GS: Media teleconferences have not been happening past two weeks. Some sub team members participated in open subtitles in NY a couple of weeks ago.
15:37:54 GS: Addition to media user requirements, ancilary content: explaining the kinds of things you want to hear inline, skip, or navigate to.
15:38:11 s/GS:/JS:/G
15:38:13 Zakim, drop Mike
15:38:13 Mike is being disconnected
15:38:14 -Mike
15:38:20 Zakim, call Mike-goog
15:38:20 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
15:38:22 +Mike
15:38:26 GS: Analogous to footnotes or other interuptive content.
15:41:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
15:43:29 bye
15:43:29 -Eric_Carlson
15:43:30 -Janina_Sajka
15:43:31 -MichaelC
15:43:32 -Cynthia_Shelly
15:43:35 -Marco_Ranon
15:44:46 zakim, please part
15:44:46 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Janina_Sajka, Gregory_Rosmaita, Everet_Zufelt, MichaelC, +1.408.823.aaaa, Eric_Carlson, +44.207.391.aabb, Marco_Ranon, Cynthia_Shelly,
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15:44:49 ... Mike
15:45:04 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
15:45:58 present: MikeSmith
15:46:36 present- [+1.408.823.aaaa]
15:46:50 present- +44.207.391.aabb
15:46:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
15:48:08 present+ Janina_Sajka,Gregory_Rosmaita,Everett_Zufelt,MichaelC,Eric_Carlson,Marco_Ranon,Cynthia_Shelly
15:48:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
15:54:03 rrsagent bye
15:54:16 rrsagent, bye
15:54:16 I see no action items