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NicJansma: navigationStart, what about navigations without unloads?
Zhiheng: this should line up with
the HTML5 spec
... Any concern with the definition fetch start?
AndersonQuach: Looks good, as long as we do not enforce undefined phases.
TonyG: Sounds good.
NicJansma: domContentLoaded split to domContentLoadedEventStart, domContentLoadEventEnd?
TonyG: Jonas brought that up, to be consistent with events.
AndersonQuach: should we added it?
TonyG: Works for me.
Zhiheng: yep.
NicJansma: navigationStart is stated after the redirect phase, should it start before redirect phase to be closer to user committing the navigation?
TonyG: the navigationStart moves is implemented in WebKit as in front of the redirect phase.
NicJansma: IE as well.
... navigationStart moved in front of redirectStart can expose
the redirect phase.
TonyG: All of the folks presented on the onsite respect privacy concerns, and review with browser security team and summarize the issue on an email thread.
NicJansma: navigationStart and prompt for unload should happen prior to redirect.
Zhiheng: it is possible to have unload phase in the HTML5 spec?
TonyG: Can you share that reference?
<Zhiheng> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/history.html#navigating-across-documents
Zhiheng: Note in the beginning of 4.5 stating the lifetime.
NicJansma: Add one more sentence in step 1, they miss that.
Zhiheng: Good idea.
NicJansma: Step 3 in the
processing model, there may be a typo. -- 3. If the current
document and the previous document are not from the same origin
set both unloadEventStart and unloadEventEnd to 0 then go to
step 5. Otherwise record unloadEventStart as the time
immediately before the unload event fires.
... What are the differences between step 5 and 6.
Zhiheng: if http
... before app cache lookup, and step 6 is not an http
get.
... should these be merged?
NicJansma: Yes, it would
help.
... Step 15, sub-bullet 4.. add redirectStart and redirectEnd
in the exclusion list.
Zhiheng: navigationStart should point to the start of the redirect, not consistent with the diagram.
NicJansma: this section will be dependent on our joint security review.
AndersonQuach: it is our understanding that no new window object is created during a redirect. Tony is that similar to WebKit.
TonyG: Yes, no new window object is created for 300s with a subsequent 200.
Zhiheng: Graph is non-normative,
itself does not have to be conformance benchmark.
... you're correct we do not have to enforce the gaps/
undefined phases.
NicJansma: Are there any other business with Navigation Timing Spec
<scribe> chair: JasonWeber
<scribe> chair: ArvindJain
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