IRC log of html-a11y on 2010-09-29
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- 22:34:45 [Judy]
- all: initial look through of sean's mapping to wcag 2 a, aa, aaa
- 22:35:07 [Judy]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Checklist#Technical_Requirements_Prioritizations_and_Dependencies
- 22:35:12 [Judy]
- (the link again)
- 22:35:31 [Judy]
- jb: pls remind me the source of the must/should/may
- 22:35:37 [Judy]
- jf: my informal review
- 22:35:51 [Judy]
- jb: then the wcag 2 mapping should have more authority
- 22:36:10 [Judy]
- jf: but may not be sufficient to address the importance for media
- 22:36:44 [Judy]
- sh: my sense as well is that because we're dealing with increased
granularity here, the results may be different
- 22:37:08 [Judy]
- jf: is there some validity with my gut reaction must/should/may
assignments?
- 22:37:25 [Judy]
- ...sean did my mappings make sense to you?
- 22:38:01 [Judy]
- sh: i didn't focus on that a lot, and a fair amount of it looked on
target
- 22:38:11 [Judy]
- jf: frank how did this look?
- 22:38:31 [Judy]
- fo: i'll comment if I see something
- 22:38:57 [Judy]
- kj: i'll review it as well
- 22:40:27 [Judy]
- jf: straw poll yet?
- 22:40:36 [Judy]
- jb: hmmm....
- 22:40:40 [Judy]
- jb: what's the plus?
- 22:40:45 [Judy]
- sh: going beyond....
- 22:42:27 [Judy]
- jb: and the "tbd" -- would discussion here benefit?
- 22:42:34 [Judy]
- sh: derived from uaag
- 22:45:09 [Judy]
- jb: thoughts about time-sensitive coordination; could coordinate also
w/ jeanne spellman and kelly ford if jim allan is not available
- 22:45:21 [Judy]
- jb: could we be missing bugs on this
- 22:45:25 [Judy]
- jf: good question
- 22:45:34 [Judy]
- sh: wouldn't that be their responsibility?
- 22:45:43 [Judy]
- jb: on this timeframe, need to work with them on this
- 22:46:29 [Judy]
- jf: will getting the placeholder text in place help?
- 22:47:06 [Judy]
- jb: might
- 22:47:33 [Judy]
- jf: if text comes in after oct 1, we should be able to file bugs
against new text should be able to come in by then
- 22:47:59 [Judy]
- ... to be clear, that is what i'm proposing...
- 22:48:34 [Judy]
- jb: suggests that jf checks w/ janina
- 22:53:18 [Judy]
- jb: on the mapping, let's nail down the follow-ups w/ uawg
- 22:53:21 [Judy]
- jf: i will
- 22:53:42 [Judy]
- jb: what else would accelerate this?
- 22:56:27 [Judy]
- sh: next stage would be specifying the format?
- 22:56:46 [Judy]
- jb: what about that straw poll that john was suggesting, maybe proceed
on that afterall?
- 22:57:03 [Judy]
- jf: yes would help vet the must/should/mays
- 22:57:36 [Judy]
- sh? jf? : and we need the uaag input
- 22:57:52 [Judy]
- jf: can do a straw poll before TF meeting tomorrow
- 22:58:12 [Judy]
- jb: let's keep it moving, great
- 23:00:17 [Judy]
- s/specifying the format?/putting columns into the table to indicate
support for the granular requirements/
- 23:03:38 [Judy]
- jb: how get those in place?
- 23:04:27 [Judy]
- jf: two urgent things: straw poll on snapshot of must/should/may, and
bug filing by friday
- 23:06:47 [Judy]
- jb: could we plan how to get the formats in place
- 23:06:56 [Judy]
- sh: i could plug in ttml
- 23:07:15 [Judy]
- jb: would be good to have a model
- 23:07:35 [Judy]
- jf: concerned about not biasing with one sample
- 23:07:56 [Judy]
- jb: new pages for each format
- 23:08:05 [Judy]
- s/jb/sh/
- 23:10:23 [Judy]
- jb: wondering if we lose an opportunity to open-mindedly
cross-compare
- 23:10:46 [Judy]
- sh: wiki table is hard to work w/; perhaps condensed cross-ref
table?
- 23:11:05 [Judy]
- sh: might work
- 23:11:09 [Judy]
- jf: might work
- 23:11:40 [Judy]
- jf: so we create a number of new pages
- 23:11:53 [Judy]
- sh: could create the page, may not get all the detail in
- 23:12:48 [Judy]
- ... may leave out the sections where there are gaps
- 23:13:04 [Judy]
- jf: i'll create the cross-ref page
- 23:14:11 [Judy]
- sh: might be difficult to show all the gaps
- 23:14:36 [Judy]
- ...focus tables on text format
- 23:15:35 [JF]
- JF: are there any other concerns that need to be addressed today
- 23:16:57 [Judy]
- q+
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- q-
- 23:17:59 [Judy]
- action: jb will review threads on getting spec text in
- 23:17:59 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-65 - Will review threads on getting spec text in [on
Judy Brewer - due 2010-10-06].
- 23:20:22 [Judy]
- zakim, who's here?
- 23:20:22 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see no one
- 23:20:24 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, sean, Judy, JF, MichaelC, trackbot
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- ------ next meetings ------
- 23:24:08 [Judy]
- confirming that we're meeting next week, and the following
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- WAI_PFWG(A11Y)6:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were
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- we may have gaps the week after next
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