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<laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jul/0006.html
<krzysztof_j> i can
<laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: krzysztof
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Documentation_Draft
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: we need to do the plain text definitions
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/VIM_terms
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SWE_terms
<krzysztof_j> hello?
<Payam> we can also look at the commercial sensor factsheets: https://www.airtest.com/support/technical/sensorcharacteristic.htm
<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent introduces the two updated list of references
<laurent_lefort_cs> R. Singh, K.V. Gernaey and R.Gani, An ontological knowledge-based system for the selection of process monitoring and analysis tools, Computers & Chemical Engineering, Volume 34, Issue 7, Process Modeling and Control in Drug Development and Manufacturing, 14 July 2010, Pages 1137-1154, http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.compchemeng.2010.04.011
<laurent_lefort_cs> Paper used for the Measurement capabilities: Singh et al
<laurent_lefort_cs> J. Shieh, J. E. Huber, N. A. Fleck, M. F. Ashby, The selection of sensors, Progress in Materials Science, Volume 46, Issues 3-4, 2001, Pages 461-504, http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0079-6425(00)00011-6
<laurent_lefort_cs> This paper provides the knowledge for the selection of sensors
<krzysztof_j> ok
<krp> Do you mean that those things have gone from the new O&M spec?
<krp> (the less than ideal things?)
<krp> cool
<krp> was it the measurement time bits? which were a bit messing terms wise
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: terms in the wiki updates to O&M 2.0. the new terms seem to address our needs and concerns in a better way
<krp> yes, we did
<krp> when does the new O&M spec become public? (which is when there's an OGC version, isn't it?)
<laurent_lefort_cs> phenomenon time (O&M): The phenomenon time shall describe the time that the result applies to the property of the feature-of-interest. This is often the time of interaction by a sampling procedure or observation procedure with a real-world feature.
<krp> thanks
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: check whether we need or should adapt our ontologies to the new O&M 2.0
<krzysztof_j> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Documentation_Draft
<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent (for Michael) explaining the status of the work in progress
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Operating_Model
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Deployments,_Systems_and_Devices
<krzysztof_j> Payam: like it, continue on it (Payam, can you add deatils if any)
<Payam> Attributes related to sensor node such as storage capacity, transmission are taken out - which is good; it focuses on sensors
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: The survival ranges, operating ranges, deployment part is at the core of our work
<Payam> Michael has also suggested to add a superclass for survival/operating range which also is a good suggestion
<krzysztof_j> (who is this?)
<krzysztof_j> Andriy: work on "smart products" project which attachs sensors to certain products (e.g., cars,...)
<Payam> +1
<krzysztof_j> Payam: we need more work on the location part (location of sensor versus location of FOI,...)
<krzysztof_j> +q
<krzysztof_j> krzysztof_j: the location is again an observation, e.g., by a GPS acting as sensor
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: yes, by chained observations (giving context to each other)
<Payam> +1
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: do we have some fixed examples to use
<krzysztof_j> Payam: what kind of example do we need? a use case?
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: basically the ABox part
<Payam> +1
<krzysztof_j> +q
<krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: we need to populate the ontologies to show how it works
<krzysztof_j> yes!
<krzysztof_j> -q
<Payam> +q
<krzysztof_j> ACTION: give feedback on the wikipage on deployment, etc and identify what is missing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/14-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
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<krzysztof_j> ACTION: ALL, give feedback on the wikipage on deployment, etc and identify what is missing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/14-ssn-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ALL,
<krzysztof_j> bye bye
<krp> Thanks, bye
<Payam> bye
<laurent_lefort_cs> Attendees: David, Payam, Andriy, Kevin, Krzysztof and Laurent
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