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<trackbot> Date: 10 June 2010
<scribe> ScribeNick: adrianba
<scribe> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-06-10: action items, decision policy, task force reports, publication status from Paul Cotton on 2010-06-10 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
paulc: expect this meeting to be
short
... chairs have had limited availability and limited overlap to
be able to move items forward
paulc: None this week
<MikeSmith> action-181?
<trackbot> ACTION-181 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to explore extracting assertions from the HTML5 spec -- due 2011-05-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/181
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-181 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<MikeSmith> action-180?
<trackbot> ACTION-180 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to post more videos for testing -- due 2011-05-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/180
<plh> close action-180
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-180 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<trackbot> ACTION-180 Post more videos for testing closed
<plh> close action-181
<trackbot> ACTION-181 Explore extracting assertions from the HTML5 spec closed
paulc: could plh/krisk please close ISSUE 180 and 181
<plh> done
paulc: there were none
paulc: None of these either.
paulc: none although agenda items
5/6 point to items we may be doing next week
... there wasn't an opportunity to make decisions to get these
done this week
ISSUE-109?
<trackbot> ISSUE-109 -- change ARIA section title and add extra text about use of ARIA -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/109
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-109 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-110?
<trackbot> ISSUE-110 -- Change Control for text/html-sandboxed media type -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/110
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-110 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: chairs plan to issue calls
for counter proposals next week
... we have change proposals for these
... we'd like to measure consensus by asking for counter
proposals
ISSUE-101?
<trackbot> ISSUE-101 -- Spec reference for US-ASCII -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/101
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-101 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-105?
<trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-107?
<trackbot> ISSUE-107 -- Politics in fallback example for plugin usage -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/107
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-107 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: does anyone have
comments?
... plan to do a call for consensus
paulc: no update - maciej does
the heavy lifting here
... he has been on vacation so nothing has happened here
recently
paulc: survey results on 4 issues
ISSUE-93?
<trackbot> ISSUE-93 -- Delete Details Element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/93
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-93 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-95?
<trackbot> ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-96?
<trackbot> ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-97?
<trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: chairs haven't yet had a
chance to discuss the results of these surveys
... this will be item #1 on the agenda for monday
paulc: anyone following
public-html know that sam and paul put the request on hold late
on tuesday
... there has been lots of e-mail and changes are being made to
the docs
... one formal objection has been raised on a related
issue
... we will pick this up on monday in the chairs meeting
... any comments?
... okay, this is pending on the chairs
janina: news from the A11Y TF is that we have a complete proposal for issue-74
issue-74?
<trackbot> ISSUE-74 -- How accessibility works for <canvas> is unclear. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-74 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
janina: but we also plan to send
a counter proposal
... this may sound strange but we have two possible
alternatives and we think implementers should comment on the
options
paulc: you said proposal and counter proposal - does that mean more consensus for one or the other?
janina: i don't think people have
a strong opinion on which is best - they both have strong
merits
... people want help deciding between them
paulc: can i say you have two alternate engineering proposals that solve this?
janina: we have two to consider
but one that is ready to publish
... that's pretty much it
... the media sub tf is working through requirements, etc.
<MikeSmith> issue-9?
<trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
janina: there is a lot of work
here but it is proceeding
... we wouldn't want to publish this document (the
requirements) in its current form
... but we think it does convey the central issues well
... for example, not necessarily everyone is expected to do
everything in the doc
... the point is that the spec needs to support these use
cases
... otherwise there is no opporunity to provide the support
some communities may need
... multiple tracks of video, audio, text and some way to sync
time on those
... if you implement this then you would be expected to behave
in this way
... so some small devices might not be able to do all these
things
... just like not all authored content is required to do
this
... but it needs to be possible
... hcg suggested we try to get more of the industry involved
in this space
... i'm proceeding on the basis that this has the possibility
of becoming _the_ next media platform
krisk: group met as planned on 6/1
<krisk> Meeting Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2010Jun/0000.html
<pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 6/1/2010 from Kris Krueger on 2010-06-01 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
krisk: plh was able to set up our automatic publishing from hg
<plh> http://test.w3.org/html/
<pimpbot> Title: HTML Testing area (at test.w3.org)
<krisk> see See -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2010Jun/0002.html
<pimpbot> Title: test.w3.org and test2.w3.org from Philippe Le Hegaret on 2010-06-02 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
krisk: group is working on async
harness proposed by jgraham
... and some video tests
... that's about it for now
... meet again next tuesday - every second week - calendar is
on the wiki
<plh> --> http://media.w3.org/2010/05/video/ Videos for testing
<pimpbot> Title: Index of /2010/05/video (at media.w3.org)
paulc: anything else people want to raise?
paulc: any volunteers?
... none heard
... now that we will have 3 co-chairs back we will be able to
push things along again
... watch your mail on mon/tue
paulc: thanks everyone
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