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Next week regrets: David
<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips
<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip
all: review HTML5 (rolling action item to be reviewed weekly)
Dan: update draft to support option C for specifying preferences in ws-i18n
<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping Dan about ws-i18n [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-core-minutes.html#action01]
addison: prepare blurb on -u- extension for i18n homepage
Addison, write an email to HTML-WG asking for more info on date-local and in particular usage scenarios
addison: ping HTML-WG chairs about next steps on Issue-88
<scribe> DONE, proceeded to poll for consensus
addison: write to script coordination list and ask TC39 to consider encoding declaration
<scribe> DONE
Norbert: send notice of extension to DAWG, us,mark, and the two CLDR folks on the calendaring call
<scribe> DONE, but...
felix sent an info share in absentia
<David> I have a meeting conflict. For "infoshare", my presentation at http://bis.kie.ae.poznan.pl/13th_bis/keynotes.php went well , see the (large file!) slides at http://www.w3c.de/Events/2010/sasaki-bis2010.pdf , and gathered some interest for the multilingual web project http://www.multilingualweb.eu/ .
from: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010May/0003.html
addison: became co-chair of the IRI WG at IETF (with Marc Blanchet)
<fantasai> aphillip, I'm on the csswg call right now
<fantasai> aphillip, I read the Issue-88 summary about a week or so ago, agree with Leif's changes except for the specific wording
addison+norbert: discussed inability to get a con call going
scribe: and planned to write a
wiki page to use for discussion purposes
... seeking volunteers to help
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Apr/0051.html
<scribe> ACTION: addison: point DAP WG to our new Timezone document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-core-minutes.html#action02]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Apr/0010.html
addison: sent confirmation that
we agree with hixie's proposed solution
... but LHS, CEW don't agree
so consensus may not be achieved
scribe: also julian r. points out that http defines it,so can't make non-conforming
norbert: can we just say "allowed but user-agents should ignore"
addison: +1
<David> david: +1
addison: a switch from "may" to "should ignore"
norbert: can we just prohibit
it?
... servers can look at it (intended use), but doesn't hurt
addison: do we want to say "must ignore"?
<scribe> chair: call for consensus on "allowed but must ignore"
<Norbert> +1
<David> +1
<Aharon> not really
<scribe> ACTION: addison: write to HMTL-WG expressing our WG's position on Issue-88 which is: "allowed but must ignore" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-core-minutes.html#action03]
Aharon: (update)
... have been busy/distracted
... now returning to work on this actively
... have responded to some raised issues
... but some things need resolution
... open to having a F2F meeting
... if anyone interested in working on it that way
... working on getting hard data on text that exists
... so we can test algorithms on it
<najib-ma> I have some proposition to the document.
next steps: go through responses and answer them
scribe: start proposing solutions to open issues
Aharon: built partial list as email, but nothing formal yet
<najib-ma> How could I help?
<scribe> ACTION: Aharon: update issues list and send to public-bidi [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-core-minutes.html#action04]
Aharon: najib, talk to me via email
<najib-ma> OK
Aharon: one specific issue
raised
... fantasai's email about bullets on list items
... should be controlled by parent or by list item
... CSS rejected because of reason I didn't fully
understand
... our progress on list has been that in arabic sometimes
alternating sides is preferred
... but not always
... in Hebrew always on one side
... so should be controllable
... so if CSS is open to specifying how to control, would be
good
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010May/0002.html
fantasai: might consider adding a
control for specific behavior in CSS3, CSS2/2.1 already
implemented and interoperable
... if i18n thinks a note would be useful, could be added as
non-normative note
... don't want to change normative behavior of bullet
position
... side is consistent on bullets
<najib-ma> "in arabic sometimes alternating sides is preferred" :-/
norbert: some colleagues brought
up issue...
... some cases where want all on same side
aharon: workaround is to surround bullets with span, but inconvenient (authors won't think of it)
<li> <span dir="rtl">blah</span></li>
<scribe> ACTION: Aharon: develop plans for a Mtn. View, CA for a bidi F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-core-minutes.html#action05]
<najib-ma> +1 to bidi f2F
<najib-ma> f2f location?
<Aharon> f2f location probably Mountainview, California
<fantasai> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ContentLanguages
<najib-ma> Morocco office offers to host a f2f.
(discussion of Issue-88)
tabled previous actions for next week
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