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Internationalization Core Teleconference

21 Apr 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
aphillip, Richard, [IPcaller], Felix, andrewc, +1.408.349.aaaa, Norbert
Regrets
David
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
aphillip

Contents


<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip

Minutes and Agenda review

<scribe> ACTION: addison: invite Mark to participate in the calendaring call with an explanatory email [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-minutes.html#action01]

Action Items

Aharon: send to our mail list list of issues ready for HTML-WG and list of issues to address in our document

richard: aharon sent me a list that was not complete but partial... let's discuss later

<scribe> DONE

addison: prepare blurb on -u- extension for i18n homepage

not done

Norbert: respond to DAP WG with a more comprehensive description of the problem of converting calendars and invite further conversation (shared telecon ??)

<scribe> DONE

ichard: write to html-wg expressing support for editor's changes and pointing out the oversight in description of <meta> C-L's structure

<scribe> DONE

Info Share

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/list-encoding-html-css

richard: set of new tests (see above link)
... for character encodings

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/list-language

richard: and a list of rewritten tests for language delcarations
... now includes tests for empty language value
... could be useful in our discussions with Leif et al
... IE and FF override properly, while Safari et al do not

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/tests-language-declarations/results-language-declarations

richard: results for all of the major browsers
... tests now include HTML5 and XHTML5

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/tests-character-encoding/results-html-encoding-basic

Issue-88 response

<r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0308.html

<scribe> ACTION: addison: write email to public-html endorsing richard's response (and IanH's proposal deprecating Content-Language) as the WG position [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-minutes.html#action02]

Bidi WG Note progress

richard: Aharon has done appreciable work on a list of issues for HTML
... maybe we should just have notes in the document
... instead of a list

addison to ping Aharon for status update

Date input in HTML5

addison recognizes David Clarke's email

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Apr/0004.html

add to agenda for next week

encoding tutorial

richard: working on it again
... working on tests has helped me get a handle on what is supported, etc.
... one thing I'm going to say, I think are....
... the BOM works and HTML5 allows it to work
... and it takes precendence (I will say also declare for usability)
... I will wind down significance of avoiding BOM

addison: maybe deemphasize, but don't eliminate recommendation against BOM?

richard: another thing that will change is emphasis on avoiding xml document declaration
... only legacy browsers are a problem here (IE 6 basically)
... so level of worry not that high any more

norbert: but yahoo finds that's not quite true yet

richard: already took out section on quirks mode
... reduced to just a couple of paragraphs
... will send out pretty soon for review

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: invite Mark to participate in the calendaring call with an explanatory email [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: write email to public-html endorsing richard's response (and IanH's proposal deprecating Content-Language) as the WG position [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-core-minutes.html#action02]
 
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Regrets: David
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Apr/0005.html
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